There’s No Place Like Home, Part 2
3 months, 1 week ago by WillRead more: Lost Episodes, season 4
Last year it was aptly called the “rattlesnake in the mailbox” (i.e. the moment you realized Jack’s flash was forward, not back, and that yes, they really did get off the Island) and this year it is being called “the frozen donkey wheel” – what exactly “it” is I am not sure, but we will find out tonight and it will undoubtedly be jaw-dropping. Season 4 ends tonight, with what should be two hours of “darkness, violence, and casualties” according to Michael Emerson. Savor the moment, because it’s off to hiatus-ville from here. They are re-airing Part 1 prior to the finale tonight, and it should contain some additional footage we did not see when it originally aired two weeks ago.
Spoiler Warning
ABC’s Official Show Description
“The face-off between the survivors and the freighter people continues, and the Oceanic Six find themselves closer to rescue, on the two-hour Season Finale!”
Questions that “should” be answered tonight:
- Who is in the coffin?
- What is the frozen donkey wheel?
- How do the Oceanic 6 ultimately escape and why just them?
- Is Locke really able to “move” the Island?
- Death toll – How many and who?
Episode Preview
Finale Sneak Peeks: Sneak Peek 1 | Sneak Peek 2 | Sneak Peek 3 | Sneak Peek 4
Comment 1, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh boyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Comment 2, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
12 hours and counting…
Comment 3, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
12 hours yippee!! I have a MASSIVE 78, yes 78 hours to wait here in England!!!
Hope we get answers……….OMG can’t believe I am comment 3!!!
Comment 4, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Almost time for…. Previous on Lost :-D
Does anyone else find themselves dreaming about Lost? I had a dream the other night that I was carrying Aaron and running away from Smokey. Meanwhile, Sawyer yelled at me because I was wearing heals on the island and made me hide in the trees with Aaron until Smokey disappeared.
While I’ve always loved this show, I think I am officially addicted to Lost.
Comment 5, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Wow, finally its Thursday!! I am so excited about 3 HOURS OF LOST TONIGHT that I can hardly stand it!! I think we may get some actual answers tonight! Here’s hoping anyway. And Bailey Loves Lost, No, can’t say I have actually DREAMED about LOST, but I sure think about it a lot! LAA meeting, anyone?
Comment 6, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
WOW!! I AM SOOOOOO EXCITED FOR TONIGHT! I CAN’T WAIT. THERE ARE SOOOOOO MANY QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ANSWERED…..WHAT QUESTIONS DOES EVERYBODY WANT ANSWERED???
I personally want to know HOW they got off the island and what happened to the rest?
Comment 7, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Bailey Loves Lost wrote:
I had two. Last week I had one that was very detailed, but I’ve since forgotten it. But it was straight up an episode of Lost in my dream. I guess it was probably the universe trying to course correct the fact that there was no show last thursday… Last night I had one that ended when a fire alarm went off across the street… I woke up in a flash… I had to convince myself that I was in my proper time line…
Yeah, I think I may have a bit of a problem…
Comment 8, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
A question I want answered is WHY the big cover up from the Oceanic Six. Also, who’s in the coffin? Is Claire actually dead or alive? Why does Jack want to go back to the island so badly?
Comment 9, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Every time I realize it is THURSDAY and *THE* Thursday, my heart skips a beat… and then I get just a little bit anxious. I am afraid that I have built it up in my mind so much that no matter what, I will be disappointed.
I got that feeling a little bit at the end of “Ji Yeon” when I realized that it was the simultaneous FF and FB. But I wasn’t disappointed in the SHOW, just in the outcome. I don’t know.
As for who I want to die tonight, that seems too morbid even for television! But as I’ve said before, it doesn’t matter if a character dies, the actor could still work on the show! So even if there were a character I could manage without, and I think Michael would be it, we could still see a lot of Harold Perrineau in years to come.
: ) P
Comment 10, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
PJSander wrote:
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PJ, I don’t think we need worry about being disappointed tonight. I think we are going to have our socks blown off (hopefully not with C4!). I agree that we could do without Michael, mostly since we have already gotten used to him being gone before, but I don’t really mind him staying either. I admit I don’t really like his character, but he does add something (not just sure WHAT exactly!).
Comment 11, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
From the questions above:
1. Who is in the coffin?
2. What is the frozen donkey wheel?
3. How do the Oceanic 6 ultimately escape and why just them?
4. Is Locke really able to “move” the Island?
5. Death toll – How many and who?
1. I originally believed it to be Locke, but now I am thinking Ben. He has many passports and therefore many names. Locke would also NEVER leave the island willingly.
2. I like MissKim’s idea, it could be what they use to “move” the island or transport off it.
3. At first it must be the chopper. The O6, minus Sun, were heading near it. I am not really sure what happens after that or why those 5, but the good doctor Jack has always been determined on rescue.
4. Can’t wait too see that or is that gonna be in season 5?
5. Numerous. Keamy and crew, all the extra’s, Michael, and maybe Desmond, but I don’t think Jin.
Comment 12, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
WHAT WAS THAT DOOR?! It was right when they were showing the preview to the non-repeat final. all white?!
kkk, too excited. k
soo, i am thinking the teleportation doohicky that ben uses to get off island, which is a weird thing for Locke to be playing with. maybe its an allusion to 2001 Space Odyssey and being inside HAL’s brain?! UHG!!!!!! toooo much excitement, i’m going to take some nightquil so i can function today.
Comment 13, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Austin wrote:
WHAT DOOR? I am outta here. Too many newbies gonna be talking about the previews.
Comment 14, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
lost4ever wrote:
WHAT DOOR? I am outta here. Too many newbies gonna be talking about the previews.
I’m with you, the finale is too big, see you guys at the start….
Comment 15, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Angel wrote:
1. whose balloon was it?
2. why do the others only come after you see the smoke in the sky?
3. what was it that killed the pilot?
4. if Vincent pees in the jungle alone, does he make any noise?
5. did Boone and Shannon ever do it?
Had to get those off my chest to ease the pain of waiting another 5 HOURS until showtime.
I’d like to know more about:
1. the whisperers
2. smokie
3. where’s Jacob? He was there a week ago but now he needs CS to speak for him?
4. the coffin. I have resigned myself that it will either be a predictable letdown OR is going to blow our minds!!! So I’m trying not to get too geared up about it.
See you tonight…same Lost channel…same Lost time (err,ummm,…I mean, ahh…)
Comment 16, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Lol, no preview talk! Everytime I even try to speculate about a preview I am proven wrong. So I don’t pay attention to the previews anymore :-)
Comment 17, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
I ran through some of the “Wish List” type responses from last week and compiled & paraphrased them.
Here are some that appear unanswered, or only partially answered.
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I want to know more about the Orchid?.
I want to know more about The Four-Toed Statue?
I want to know what ‘The Temple’ is?
I want to know what happens to the people who stay on the island?
I want to know backstory for Danielle, freighter tots & Richard Alpert?
I want to know why Alpert does not age?
I want to know why THESE numbers?
I want to know what happens to Rose?
I want to know how Ben ended-up in Tunisia in Oct 2005?
I want to know who “they” are, when Hurley asked Ben about the purge?
I want to know if Hurley is still rich?
I want to know if Jin is really dead?
I want to see anything “Walt”?
I want to know why Libby was at the mental hospital with Hurley?
I want to know what happened to all of the children?
I want to know where the children from flight 815 are?
I want to know what happened to Claire and the ‘vision’ of her leaving?
I want to know why so many of the people on the plane are connected?
I want to know if Kate and Sawyer ever get together?
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I got two of my wants answered last week
I want to see the Others get back in to the mix?
I want to know if Ben has a plan for this situation?
Comment 18, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
DocH wrote:
The Alpert questions are also some of the more interesting. If we consider Ben’s FBs and the more recent Locke FBs, we realize that Alpert was trying to recruit Locke before he even met Ben. It may be that Ben was just preparing the way for Locke. This should also be viewed in the context of several conversations Ben had with Locke when Ben was imprisoned in the hatch, especially the “I came for you John,” comment.
Also consider that Abaddon(sp) put the walkabout idea into Locke’s head. This would seem to indicate that Alpert and Abaddon are on the same team, and not on Widmore’s.
Comment 19, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
I feel that something must come about for Charlotte. She has had really minimal parts so far and her character must be a catalyst for something. Faraday might give us some clues about her but Charlotte in and of herself has to do something valuable at some point, season 4 all she’s been is a pain in the rear, she’s got to have a bigger role than that. I know in another post I said I thought she might be in the coffin, plausible but highly unlikely.
Also Miles. He has had some input/interaction but his character must really be able to do something cool on a island where so many people have died. I hope they let his character do his thing with some awesome results. I also think Jack would take an interest in some one like Miles.
Comment 20, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
@ Lost4eva and Hammer
Newbie? Maybe if you read this blog since before the transition of ownership, you would remember the heated discussions of the readership on whether previews should be discusses in entries (this was back when there were actual posts that discussed past episodes, lengthy, intelligent responses to theories, and actual discussions about these very previews. SO, for all of you newbies who haven’t been here long enough to remember such events on this blog, should think about how much better it can be, because this blog at one point was the destination for true theory banter.
Comment 21, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Seajam wrote:
The Alpert questions are also some of the more interesting. If we consider Ben’s FBs and the more recent Locke FBs, we realize that Alpert was trying to recruit Locke before he even met Ben. It may be that Ben was just preparing the way for Locke. This should also be viewed in the context of several conversations Ben had with Locke when Ben was imprisoned in the hatch, especially the “I came for you John,” comment.
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Don’t forget about Ben shooting Locke in the bread basket with every intention of killing him.
Comment 22, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Kathy wrote:
Let’s not forget pilot Frank too.
I am so total on-board with getting more ANSWERS from the ‘freighter tots’.
Though Naomi was not so exuberant about signing-up the fab-four… as I remember, Abaddon was fairly insistent that the four (M-D-F-C) be on the leading edge when it came to taking the island. They had them on the island ASAP as soon as Naomi made initial contact. Team Keamy (get Ben/2nd protocol) are almost like a secondary mission, an after-thought, from what I thought the scientist were going to do.
Yes… Charlotte needs tons more explaining. Miles = un-tapped resource. More ghost-busting… less restraining orders. Daniel may have reached his potential (Constant & Tempest) but… I’d like to see him reconstitute the Swan Hatch or Orchid. Frank = loose cannon, unknown loyalties, all-around good guy.
I can see Keamy now. “Get that twitchy little Faraday guy up here now (Orchid)… I want to see him work his magic on this thing!”
Comment 23, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Seajam wrote:
The Alpert questions are also some of the more interesting. If we consider Ben’s FBs and the more recent Locke FBs, we realize that Alpert was trying to recruit Locke before he even met Ben. It may be that Ben was just preparing the way for Locke. This should also be viewed in the context of several conversations Ben had with Locke when Ben was imprisoned in the hatch, especially the “I came for you John,” comment.
Also consider that Abaddon(sp) put the walkabout idea into Locke’s head. This would seem to indicate that Alpert and Abaddon are on the same team, and not on Widmore’s.
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They can’t be on the same team, Alpert knows about the survivors, Abbadon doesn’t … he tried to get Hugo to spill the beans. I think they are working against each other, but they both know that Locke will play an important role in the future of the island so they’re both angling for some influence.
Comment 24, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Austin wrote:
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I would say that until the “no spoilers or discussion of episode previews” guideline for comments on this site is removed or changed, it really doesn’t matter what this blog considered doing/used to do before or after the transition of ownership. If you don’t wanna play by the rules go find yourself another sandbox.
Comment 25, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20202804,00.html
jeff jensen has a nice “WHAT IF” review here… no spoilers, but it will bring personal FBs from the season. I would wait until 20 minutes before your 1st viewing tonight before visiting.
Comment 26, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Austin wrote:
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I guess I’m not sure what the point you’re making is. I have only been here for 2 seasons, but I have gone back through the archives and read EVERYTHING that was done before I arrived. Actually, I find the comments to about the same: some periods of great debate/ some periods of general comments, but truly not much different over time. Just people excited about a great story, and wanting some place to join with others who feel the same. Personally, though I was not part of the original debate over discussing/not discussing previews, I like it this way just fine. I like being spoiler-free and just excited to see the story unfold. There is plenty to discuss without adding the previews, and we don’t have to wait that long before we can discuss the ACTUAL events (rather than the MIGHT BE events as they appear in the previews). Many of the same names are appearing now, that appeared in the earlier postings, so I guess not everyone feels the same way you do.
Comment 27, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Is anyone getting a three line outline of the picture on their television? I have checked a few TVs and all of them are getting this. Thanks.
Comment 28, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
wow so libby, Charlie, and Boone were the other 3 survivors who “died” makes sense cause there actually dead.
Comment 29, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Did anyone notice that in the interview of the oceanic 6, Jack states there were 8 of them…then they ask what happened to the other 3…then gives out the three names.
Then a lady asks another question about the six of them. That makes no sense at all. Mind Games…LOL
Oh crud. Is this supposed to go in last week’s comments??
Comment 30, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
There were 8 of them that survived the crash. Libby, Charlie, and Boone died so there are 5 left. Aaron is born which puts the total number of survivors at 6.
Comment 31, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
NEVER MIND!! I JUST GOT IT!! Sorry to sound so dumb LOL.
Comment 32, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Five bank accounts = the five survivors. I bet they put the payoff money together and buy out Paik.
Comment 33, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
First time I’m reading/commenting here and I sure feel like this place fits Lost perfectly with all the questions about what should or should not be here and why. It’s pretty amusing from an outsider’s view–and I don’t mean that in a bad way.
Anywho,
I think Ben shot Locke because Ben didn’t want to be replaced by Locke, which would seem to be the intention of the island.
I am also pretty darn sure that a frozen donkey wheel is an old expression for the actual donkey wheels used in mills when they “froze” from rust/grit/whatever. Could it be so simple that the island actually has a giant rudder? That’s what I’m guessing since it would be totally in line with many sci-fi themes of a simple thing fixing/coming to the rescue.
What I want answered more than anything is how Desmond bounced in time. Could the request to move the island mean both geographicly and in time both? Which is contrary to my rudder theory….but still a good explanation for some of the bigger contradictions in the story line.
I am hoping against all odds that the finale is all about what is going on on the island. I love mysteries but this is a but much. They need to give us better clues and more info to keep us interested. I know a few people who have quit watching because of this.
I would love to see Jack and Kate gone from the story line. Jack at the very least because he’s become so boring of a character.
Comment 34, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
approaching infinity wrote:
I was typing my comment when you were. I guess I was just LOOKING for a reason to be confused about something! I have been convinced and prepared to go completely crazy tonight. I know at the very end of the finale I am going to be soooo mad! I will then tell my husband how I totally hate this show and will never watch this crap again. Then he will tell me he is going to have a brain aneurysm. Then I will get on this blog until Sunday. LOL
Comment 35, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Hey … what’s Aaron been eating for a day and a half since Claire wandered off? That baby should be screaming like crazy by now
Comment 36, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Whats up losties…. Is every1 ready for tonight, i know i am….I wanna know what is happening to sayid and kate, and if alpert reveals any secrets to them…??
Comment 37, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Tasker wrote:
OMG this exact thought crossed my mind today. I cut my date short (ahhh) to get home and watch !
Comment 38, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Just putting in my final thoughts before the finale… I think that Jack is going to be responsible for the freighter blowing up. I think that Keamy is going to have Kate as a hostage. Jack will have a gun aimed at him, Keamy will tell Jack that he doesn’t want to do that… Jack won’t believe him and shoots him… BOOOOOOM!!!. Jack never forgives himself for this. I think that Jack is the “Frozen Donkey Wheel”. It defines his absolute stubbornness ie. “Stubborn as a Donkey” Its hard enough to get a donkey to do something that it doesn’t want to do, but if it is pulling something like a cart with a frozen wheel… it won’t be going anywhere. Kate is Jack’s Frozen Donkey wheel. His decisions are based on saving Kate over everything else. And it will cost him and a lot of other people dearly… Well Just a guess, we’ll see what happens in a few moments. See you after the finale!
Comment 39, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
O! M! G! IT”S ON!!!!!!!!!! OMG!!! YAY!!!!!!!!
Comment 40, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
WHO???
Comment 41, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Austin wrote:
Check your facts and look in the archives…I’ve been here for YEARS…nice try.
Comment 42, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Hammer wrote:
Check your facts and look in the archives…I’ve been here for YEARS…nice try.
hi hammer i love u. ya austin, don’t u dare go after hammer. ;-)—
Comment 43, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Megalost wrote:
Check your facts and look in the archives…I’ve been here for YEARS…nice try.
hi hammer i love u. ya austin, don’t u dare go after hammer. ;-)—
This is an exciting nite for me and I love everyone who shares the love of Lost with me….but let’s not ruin that! LOL. I have to say though, I have been coming here since season 1 and as far as I can remember back…we don’t discuss spoilers or previews. That carried over with the new owner as well. I may be wrong…my mind isn’t quite right anymore after watching this show…but pretty sure they haven’t been discussed since at least season 2.
May I also say…..
I guess we were ALL wrong!!! Jeremy WHO? I love how this show answers questions that only bring up new ones! LOL? What is the monster? Oh just black smoke that flies around and kills people/security system. Who is in the coffin?? Oh yeah! Jeremy! Remember him?? Huh?
Comment 44, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
OH MY!!!
Comment 45, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
man i think u need to be on lsd to watch this show….lol….
Comment 46, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
OMG!!! Sun’s baby IS Michael’s!!!!!!!
Comment 47, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Who is Jeremy again?
Comment 48, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Snaisy wrote:
We don’t know yet. Still could be Locke maybe? Or Ben?
Comment 49, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Rita wrote:
Are you kidding me? LOL
Snaisy wrote:
You know Jeremy!! Remember him from the past 4 seasons? LOL
Comment 50, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
i think jeremy is the dharma intuitive doctor on the video tapes….sawyer jumped off the chopper, what he say to kate???
Comment 51, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Jeremy is like a passenger that gets of the island after the O6 and will need an alias as Sayid said no possibilty of any other survivors.
Comment 52, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Megalost wrote:
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Thanks Megalost.
Comment 53, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
The Whisperers are popping up all over the place. Hugo is seeing the regularly, Michael now….they are SOOOO part of the security system!!!
Comment 54, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
OMG….that was dramatic. I am going to cry.
Comment 55, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Austin you better hang it up on smack talk to Hammer cuz it just won’t be tolerated. He knows whats up and runs an excellent blog.
Comment 56, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
BOOM! IT WENT BOOM!?! Michael cannot die, so he’s still gotta be around. Do you really think they killed off Jin?
Comment 57, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
This better pick up
Comment 58, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Wow literally frozen donkey wheel!!!
Comment 59, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Kathy wrote:
Thanks Kathy.
Comment 60, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
frozen donkey wheel haha. NICE!!!
Comment 61, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
della wrote:
I think that’s why CS told him that he “could go now” … now he CAN die
Comment 62, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Megalost wrote:
Check your facts and look in the archives…I’ve been here for YEARS…nice try.
hi hammer i love u. ya austin, don’t u dare go after hammer. ;-)—
Hammer is Jacob !
Comment 63, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
WOW!!! Well there goes the island!!!
Comment 64, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
CAG wrote:
I think that’s why CS told him that he “could go now” … now he CAN die
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Yes, spot on.
Comment 65, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Tasha wrote:
Are you kidding me? LOL
Snaisy wrote:
You know Jeremy!! Remember him from the past 4 seasons? LOL
OMG yes I agree. It’s Michael’s !
Comment 66, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Not looking good for desmond or lapidus
Comment 67, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
I love this show… penny n desmond!!!
Comment 68, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Des is 100% getting back to the mainland, not sure about Frank !!!
Comment 69, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Sun is the economist?
Comment 70, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
omar wrote:
it gave me chills when they saw each other
Comment 71, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Frank was the pilot remember? Maybe he can sneak his way!
Comment 72, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Hammer wrote:
Definitely !
Comment 73, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
I kept reading that Penny would show up cause she shows up in every finale. Of course I was looking for the submarine!
OMG he is gonna open it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment 74, posted 3 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
happy beyond words about Des+Penny reunion