There’s No Place Like Home, Part 2
1 year, 1 month ago by WillRead more: Lost Episodes, season 4
Last year it was aptly called the “rattlesnake in the mailbox” (i.e. the moment you realized Jack’s flash was forward, not back, and that yes, they really did get off the Island) and this year it is being called “the frozen donkey wheel” – what exactly “it” is I am not sure, but we will find out tonight and it will undoubtedly be jaw-dropping. Season 4 ends tonight, with what should be two hours of “darkness, violence, and casualties” according to Michael Emerson. Savor the moment, because it’s off to hiatus-ville from here. They are re-airing Part 1 prior to the finale tonight, and it should contain some additional footage we did not see when it originally aired two weeks ago.
Spoiler Warning
ABC’s Official Show Description
“The face-off between the survivors and the freighter people continues, and the Oceanic Six find themselves closer to rescue, on the two-hour Season Finale!”
Questions that “should” be answered tonight:
- Who is in the coffin?
- What is the frozen donkey wheel?
- How do the Oceanic 6 ultimately escape and why just them?
- Is Locke really able to “move” the Island?
- Death toll – How many and who?
Episode Preview
Finale Sneak Peeks: Sneak Peek 1 | Sneak Peek 2 | Sneak Peek 3 | Sneak Peek 4
Comment 1, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh boyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Comment 2, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
12 hours and counting…
Comment 3, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
12 hours yippee!! I have a MASSIVE 78, yes 78 hours to wait here in England!!!
Hope we get answers……….OMG can’t believe I am comment 3!!!
Comment 4, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Almost time for…. Previous on Lost :-D
Does anyone else find themselves dreaming about Lost? I had a dream the other night that I was carrying Aaron and running away from Smokey. Meanwhile, Sawyer yelled at me because I was wearing heals on the island and made me hide in the trees with Aaron until Smokey disappeared.
While I’ve always loved this show, I think I am officially addicted to Lost.
Comment 5, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Wow, finally its Thursday!! I am so excited about 3 HOURS OF LOST TONIGHT that I can hardly stand it!! I think we may get some actual answers tonight! Here’s hoping anyway. And Bailey Loves Lost, No, can’t say I have actually DREAMED about LOST, but I sure think about it a lot! LAA meeting, anyone?
Comment 6, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
WOW!! I AM SOOOOOO EXCITED FOR TONIGHT! I CAN’T WAIT. THERE ARE SOOOOOO MANY QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ANSWERED…..WHAT QUESTIONS DOES EVERYBODY WANT ANSWERED???
I personally want to know HOW they got off the island and what happened to the rest?
Comment 7, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Bailey Loves Lost wrote:
I had two. Last week I had one that was very detailed, but I’ve since forgotten it. But it was straight up an episode of Lost in my dream. I guess it was probably the universe trying to course correct the fact that there was no show last thursday… Last night I had one that ended when a fire alarm went off across the street… I woke up in a flash… I had to convince myself that I was in my proper time line…
Yeah, I think I may have a bit of a problem…
Comment 8, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
A question I want answered is WHY the big cover up from the Oceanic Six. Also, who’s in the coffin? Is Claire actually dead or alive? Why does Jack want to go back to the island so badly?
Comment 9, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Every time I realize it is THURSDAY and *THE* Thursday, my heart skips a beat… and then I get just a little bit anxious. I am afraid that I have built it up in my mind so much that no matter what, I will be disappointed.
I got that feeling a little bit at the end of “Ji Yeon” when I realized that it was the simultaneous FF and FB. But I wasn’t disappointed in the SHOW, just in the outcome. I don’t know.
As for who I want to die tonight, that seems too morbid even for television! But as I’ve said before, it doesn’t matter if a character dies, the actor could still work on the show! So even if there were a character I could manage without, and I think Michael would be it, we could still see a lot of Harold Perrineau in years to come.
: ) P
Comment 10, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
PJSander wrote:
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PJ, I don’t think we need worry about being disappointed tonight. I think we are going to have our socks blown off (hopefully not with C4!). I agree that we could do without Michael, mostly since we have already gotten used to him being gone before, but I don’t really mind him staying either. I admit I don’t really like his character, but he does add something (not just sure WHAT exactly!).
Comment 11, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
From the questions above:
1. Who is in the coffin?
2. What is the frozen donkey wheel?
3. How do the Oceanic 6 ultimately escape and why just them?
4. Is Locke really able to “move” the Island?
5. Death toll – How many and who?
1. I originally believed it to be Locke, but now I am thinking Ben. He has many passports and therefore many names. Locke would also NEVER leave the island willingly.
2. I like MissKim’s idea, it could be what they use to “move” the island or transport off it.
3. At first it must be the chopper. The O6, minus Sun, were heading near it. I am not really sure what happens after that or why those 5, but the good doctor Jack has always been determined on rescue.
4. Can’t wait too see that or is that gonna be in season 5?
5. Numerous. Keamy and crew, all the extra’s, Michael, and maybe Desmond, but I don’t think Jin.
Comment 12, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
WHAT WAS THAT DOOR?! It was right when they were showing the preview to the non-repeat final. all white?!
kkk, too excited. k
soo, i am thinking the teleportation doohicky that ben uses to get off island, which is a weird thing for Locke to be playing with. maybe its an allusion to 2001 Space Odyssey and being inside HAL’s brain?! UHG!!!!!! toooo much excitement, i’m going to take some nightquil so i can function today.
Comment 13, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Austin wrote:
WHAT DOOR? I am outta here. Too many newbies gonna be talking about the previews.
Comment 14, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
lost4ever wrote:
WHAT DOOR? I am outta here. Too many newbies gonna be talking about the previews.
I’m with you, the finale is too big, see you guys at the start….
Comment 15, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Angel wrote:
1. whose balloon was it?
2. why do the others only come after you see the smoke in the sky?
3. what was it that killed the pilot?
4. if Vincent pees in the jungle alone, does he make any noise?
5. did Boone and Shannon ever do it?
Had to get those off my chest to ease the pain of waiting another 5 HOURS until showtime.
I’d like to know more about:
1. the whisperers
2. smokie
3. where’s Jacob? He was there a week ago but now he needs CS to speak for him?
4. the coffin. I have resigned myself that it will either be a predictable letdown OR is going to blow our minds!!! So I’m trying not to get too geared up about it.
See you tonight…same Lost channel…same Lost time (err,ummm,…I mean, ahh…)
Comment 16, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Lol, no preview talk! Everytime I even try to speculate about a preview I am proven wrong. So I don’t pay attention to the previews anymore :-)
Comment 17, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
I ran through some of the “Wish List” type responses from last week and compiled & paraphrased them.
Here are some that appear unanswered, or only partially answered.
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I want to know more about the Orchid?.
I want to know more about The Four-Toed Statue?
I want to know what ‘The Temple’ is?
I want to know what happens to the people who stay on the island?
I want to know backstory for Danielle, freighter tots & Richard Alpert?
I want to know why Alpert does not age?
I want to know why THESE numbers?
I want to know what happens to Rose?
I want to know how Ben ended-up in Tunisia in Oct 2005?
I want to know who “they” are, when Hurley asked Ben about the purge?
I want to know if Hurley is still rich?
I want to know if Jin is really dead?
I want to see anything “Walt”?
I want to know why Libby was at the mental hospital with Hurley?
I want to know what happened to all of the children?
I want to know where the children from flight 815 are?
I want to know what happened to Claire and the ‘vision’ of her leaving?
I want to know why so many of the people on the plane are connected?
I want to know if Kate and Sawyer ever get together?
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I got two of my wants answered last week
I want to see the Others get back in to the mix?
I want to know if Ben has a plan for this situation?
Comment 18, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
DocH wrote:
The Alpert questions are also some of the more interesting. If we consider Ben’s FBs and the more recent Locke FBs, we realize that Alpert was trying to recruit Locke before he even met Ben. It may be that Ben was just preparing the way for Locke. This should also be viewed in the context of several conversations Ben had with Locke when Ben was imprisoned in the hatch, especially the “I came for you John,” comment.
Also consider that Abaddon(sp) put the walkabout idea into Locke’s head. This would seem to indicate that Alpert and Abaddon are on the same team, and not on Widmore’s.
Comment 19, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
I feel that something must come about for Charlotte. She has had really minimal parts so far and her character must be a catalyst for something. Faraday might give us some clues about her but Charlotte in and of herself has to do something valuable at some point, season 4 all she’s been is a pain in the rear, she’s got to have a bigger role than that. I know in another post I said I thought she might be in the coffin, plausible but highly unlikely.
Also Miles. He has had some input/interaction but his character must really be able to do something cool on a island where so many people have died. I hope they let his character do his thing with some awesome results. I also think Jack would take an interest in some one like Miles.
Comment 20, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
@ Lost4eva and Hammer
Newbie? Maybe if you read this blog since before the transition of ownership, you would remember the heated discussions of the readership on whether previews should be discusses in entries (this was back when there were actual posts that discussed past episodes, lengthy, intelligent responses to theories, and actual discussions about these very previews. SO, for all of you newbies who haven’t been here long enough to remember such events on this blog, should think about how much better it can be, because this blog at one point was the destination for true theory banter.
Comment 21, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Seajam wrote:
The Alpert questions are also some of the more interesting. If we consider Ben’s FBs and the more recent Locke FBs, we realize that Alpert was trying to recruit Locke before he even met Ben. It may be that Ben was just preparing the way for Locke. This should also be viewed in the context of several conversations Ben had with Locke when Ben was imprisoned in the hatch, especially the “I came for you John,” comment.
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Don’t forget about Ben shooting Locke in the bread basket with every intention of killing him.
Comment 22, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Kathy wrote:
Let’s not forget pilot Frank too.
I am so total on-board with getting more ANSWERS from the ‘freighter tots’.
Though Naomi was not so exuberant about signing-up the fab-four… as I remember, Abaddon was fairly insistent that the four (M-D-F-C) be on the leading edge when it came to taking the island. They had them on the island ASAP as soon as Naomi made initial contact. Team Keamy (get Ben/2nd protocol) are almost like a secondary mission, an after-thought, from what I thought the scientist were going to do.
Yes… Charlotte needs tons more explaining. Miles = un-tapped resource. More ghost-busting… less restraining orders. Daniel may have reached his potential (Constant & Tempest) but… I’d like to see him reconstitute the Swan Hatch or Orchid. Frank = loose cannon, unknown loyalties, all-around good guy.
I can see Keamy now. “Get that twitchy little Faraday guy up here now (Orchid)… I want to see him work his magic on this thing!”
Comment 23, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Seajam wrote:
The Alpert questions are also some of the more interesting. If we consider Ben’s FBs and the more recent Locke FBs, we realize that Alpert was trying to recruit Locke before he even met Ben. It may be that Ben was just preparing the way for Locke. This should also be viewed in the context of several conversations Ben had with Locke when Ben was imprisoned in the hatch, especially the “I came for you John,” comment.
Also consider that Abaddon(sp) put the walkabout idea into Locke’s head. This would seem to indicate that Alpert and Abaddon are on the same team, and not on Widmore’s.
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They can’t be on the same team, Alpert knows about the survivors, Abbadon doesn’t … he tried to get Hugo to spill the beans. I think they are working against each other, but they both know that Locke will play an important role in the future of the island so they’re both angling for some influence.
Comment 24, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Austin wrote:
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I would say that until the “no spoilers or discussion of episode previews” guideline for comments on this site is removed or changed, it really doesn’t matter what this blog considered doing/used to do before or after the transition of ownership. If you don’t wanna play by the rules go find yourself another sandbox.
Comment 25, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20202804,00.html
jeff jensen has a nice “WHAT IF” review here… no spoilers, but it will bring personal FBs from the season. I would wait until 20 minutes before your 1st viewing tonight before visiting.
Comment 26, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Austin wrote:
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I guess I’m not sure what the point you’re making is. I have only been here for 2 seasons, but I have gone back through the archives and read EVERYTHING that was done before I arrived. Actually, I find the comments to about the same: some periods of great debate/ some periods of general comments, but truly not much different over time. Just people excited about a great story, and wanting some place to join with others who feel the same. Personally, though I was not part of the original debate over discussing/not discussing previews, I like it this way just fine. I like being spoiler-free and just excited to see the story unfold. There is plenty to discuss without adding the previews, and we don’t have to wait that long before we can discuss the ACTUAL events (rather than the MIGHT BE events as they appear in the previews). Many of the same names are appearing now, that appeared in the earlier postings, so I guess not everyone feels the same way you do.
Comment 27, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Is anyone getting a three line outline of the picture on their television? I have checked a few TVs and all of them are getting this. Thanks.
Comment 28, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
wow so libby, Charlie, and Boone were the other 3 survivors who “died” makes sense cause there actually dead.
Comment 29, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Did anyone notice that in the interview of the oceanic 6, Jack states there were 8 of them…then they ask what happened to the other 3…then gives out the three names.
Then a lady asks another question about the six of them. That makes no sense at all. Mind Games…LOL
Oh crud. Is this supposed to go in last week’s comments??
Comment 30, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
There were 8 of them that survived the crash. Libby, Charlie, and Boone died so there are 5 left. Aaron is born which puts the total number of survivors at 6.
Comment 31, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
NEVER MIND!! I JUST GOT IT!! Sorry to sound so dumb LOL.
Comment 32, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Five bank accounts = the five survivors. I bet they put the payoff money together and buy out Paik.
Comment 33, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
First time I’m reading/commenting here and I sure feel like this place fits Lost perfectly with all the questions about what should or should not be here and why. It’s pretty amusing from an outsider’s view–and I don’t mean that in a bad way.
Anywho,
I think Ben shot Locke because Ben didn’t want to be replaced by Locke, which would seem to be the intention of the island.
I am also pretty darn sure that a frozen donkey wheel is an old expression for the actual donkey wheels used in mills when they “froze” from rust/grit/whatever. Could it be so simple that the island actually has a giant rudder? That’s what I’m guessing since it would be totally in line with many sci-fi themes of a simple thing fixing/coming to the rescue.
What I want answered more than anything is how Desmond bounced in time. Could the request to move the island mean both geographicly and in time both? Which is contrary to my rudder theory….but still a good explanation for some of the bigger contradictions in the story line.
I am hoping against all odds that the finale is all about what is going on on the island. I love mysteries but this is a but much. They need to give us better clues and more info to keep us interested. I know a few people who have quit watching because of this.
I would love to see Jack and Kate gone from the story line. Jack at the very least because he’s become so boring of a character.
Comment 34, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
approaching infinity wrote:
I was typing my comment when you were. I guess I was just LOOKING for a reason to be confused about something! I have been convinced and prepared to go completely crazy tonight. I know at the very end of the finale I am going to be soooo mad! I will then tell my husband how I totally hate this show and will never watch this crap again. Then he will tell me he is going to have a brain aneurysm. Then I will get on this blog until Sunday. LOL
Comment 35, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Hey … what’s Aaron been eating for a day and a half since Claire wandered off? That baby should be screaming like crazy by now
Comment 36, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Whats up losties…. Is every1 ready for tonight, i know i am….I wanna know what is happening to sayid and kate, and if alpert reveals any secrets to them…??
Comment 37, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Tasker wrote:
OMG this exact thought crossed my mind today. I cut my date short (ahhh) to get home and watch !
Comment 38, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Just putting in my final thoughts before the finale… I think that Jack is going to be responsible for the freighter blowing up. I think that Keamy is going to have Kate as a hostage. Jack will have a gun aimed at him, Keamy will tell Jack that he doesn’t want to do that… Jack won’t believe him and shoots him… BOOOOOOM!!!. Jack never forgives himself for this. I think that Jack is the “Frozen Donkey Wheel”. It defines his absolute stubbornness ie. “Stubborn as a Donkey” Its hard enough to get a donkey to do something that it doesn’t want to do, but if it is pulling something like a cart with a frozen wheel… it won’t be going anywhere. Kate is Jack’s Frozen Donkey wheel. His decisions are based on saving Kate over everything else. And it will cost him and a lot of other people dearly… Well Just a guess, we’ll see what happens in a few moments. See you after the finale!
Comment 39, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
O! M! G! IT”S ON!!!!!!!!!! OMG!!! YAY!!!!!!!!
Comment 40, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
WHO???
Comment 41, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Austin wrote:
Check your facts and look in the archives…I’ve been here for YEARS…nice try.
Comment 42, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Hammer wrote:
Check your facts and look in the archives…I’ve been here for YEARS…nice try.
hi hammer i love u. ya austin, don’t u dare go after hammer. ;-)—
Comment 43, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Megalost wrote:
Check your facts and look in the archives…I’ve been here for YEARS…nice try.
hi hammer i love u. ya austin, don’t u dare go after hammer. ;-)—
This is an exciting nite for me and I love everyone who shares the love of Lost with me….but let’s not ruin that! LOL. I have to say though, I have been coming here since season 1 and as far as I can remember back…we don’t discuss spoilers or previews. That carried over with the new owner as well. I may be wrong…my mind isn’t quite right anymore after watching this show…but pretty sure they haven’t been discussed since at least season 2.
May I also say…..
I guess we were ALL wrong!!! Jeremy WHO? I love how this show answers questions that only bring up new ones! LOL? What is the monster? Oh just black smoke that flies around and kills people/security system. Who is in the coffin?? Oh yeah! Jeremy! Remember him?? Huh?
Comment 44, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
OH MY!!!
Comment 45, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
man i think u need to be on lsd to watch this show….lol….
Comment 46, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
OMG!!! Sun’s baby IS Michael’s!!!!!!!
Comment 47, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Who is Jeremy again?
Comment 48, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Snaisy wrote:
We don’t know yet. Still could be Locke maybe? Or Ben?
Comment 49, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Rita wrote:
Are you kidding me? LOL
Snaisy wrote:
You know Jeremy!! Remember him from the past 4 seasons? LOL
Comment 50, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
i think jeremy is the dharma intuitive doctor on the video tapes….sawyer jumped off the chopper, what he say to kate???
Comment 51, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Jeremy is like a passenger that gets of the island after the O6 and will need an alias as Sayid said no possibilty of any other survivors.
Comment 52, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Megalost wrote:
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Thanks Megalost.
Comment 53, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
The Whisperers are popping up all over the place. Hugo is seeing the regularly, Michael now….they are SOOOO part of the security system!!!
Comment 54, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
OMG….that was dramatic. I am going to cry.
Comment 55, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Austin you better hang it up on smack talk to Hammer cuz it just won’t be tolerated. He knows whats up and runs an excellent blog.
Comment 56, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
BOOM! IT WENT BOOM!?! Michael cannot die, so he’s still gotta be around. Do you really think they killed off Jin?
Comment 57, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
This better pick up
Comment 58, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Wow literally frozen donkey wheel!!!
Comment 59, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Kathy wrote:
Thanks Kathy.
Comment 60, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
frozen donkey wheel haha. NICE!!!
Comment 61, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
della wrote:
I think that’s why CS told him that he “could go now” … now he CAN die
Comment 62, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Megalost wrote:
Check your facts and look in the archives…I’ve been here for YEARS…nice try.
hi hammer i love u. ya austin, don’t u dare go after hammer. ;-)—
Hammer is Jacob !
Comment 63, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
WOW!!! Well there goes the island!!!
Comment 64, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
CAG wrote:
I think that’s why CS told him that he “could go now” … now he CAN die
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Yes, spot on.
Comment 65, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Tasha wrote:
Are you kidding me? LOL
Snaisy wrote:
You know Jeremy!! Remember him from the past 4 seasons? LOL
OMG yes I agree. It’s Michael’s !
Comment 66, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Not looking good for desmond or lapidus
Comment 67, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
I love this show… penny n desmond!!!
Comment 68, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Des is 100% getting back to the mainland, not sure about Frank !!!
Comment 69, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Sun is the economist?
Comment 70, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
omar wrote:
it gave me chills when they saw each other
Comment 71, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Frank was the pilot remember? Maybe he can sneak his way!
Comment 72, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Hammer wrote:
Definitely !
Comment 73, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
I kept reading that Penny would show up cause she shows up in every finale. Of course I was looking for the submarine!
OMG he is gonna open it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment 74, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
happy beyond words about Des+Penny reunion
Comment 75, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Hammer
Comment 279, posted 1 week, 6 days ago - Quote and reply
Okay, I hear you all about Sun being in Korea…but remember me when she’s pissed at Jack.
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Hey, I got one!
Comment 76, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
JOHN
Comment 77, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
WTF?!?!?!? Locke!?!?!?!
Comment 78, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
WTF!?!?!?! Locke?!?!?
Comment 79, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Jeremy Bentham is John Locke! Woo Hoo! I’m so relived for AN answer!
Comment 80, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Now how in the heck did the island let Locke die? Guess it doesn’t matter since it wants all of them back.
So it looks like we spend next season getting back on the island.
Comment 81, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
i said all along john locke was in the coffin!!
Comment 82, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
so john locke is jeremy bentham???
Comment 83, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
I hope this is a fake Lock body… a double. Just to get the Lost 6-ers to return. I am not going to let the ‘Lock is dead now’ fool me!!!
Comment 84, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
WTF!?!?! Locke!?!?!
Comment 85, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Weekend at Bernie’s 3 once Locke gets back to the island…
Comment 86, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Well, thus ends one of the best seasons of any TV show I’ve ever seen.
Congrats to those who said Locke was in the coffin. I was sure surprised.
Comment 87, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
i knew it! i knew it! it was john locke. but why jeremy bentham???
Comment 88, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
i knew it! i knew it! it was john locke. but why jeremy bentham???
Comment 89, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Locke?! Ah! I’m so glad it was Ben, I have a soft spot for him…
But Penelope and Desmond’s touching reunion and Juliet’s new drinking habit aside, what was that ARG site again? The advertisement? Global Paragon Recruiting?
The website they gave on screen doesn’t seem to work…
Comment 90, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Hammer wrote:
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Good call Hammer. Until that last scene I thought she was blaming Widmore, and was planning on taking her revenge. Not exactly sure why she should blame Jack - Ben or Widmore are more culpable, IMHO.
Comment 91, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
A*W*E*S*O*M*E
I’m speechless (for now)!
Comment 92, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
where the heck did the island go to?
Comment 93, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Woo Hoo! An answer about the coffin!
Comment 94, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Toeknee wrote:
Hear, hear.
@ Locke, it makes sense now. The gang, especially Aaron is supposed to be on the island. Something happened (folks leaving?) that drove Locke to leave the island looking for help. I think Aaron has to get back. I also think that maybe Jack and Kate are my current Adam and Eve. Jack is supposed to be on the island too. I’m rambling from a Lost high.
Comment 95, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
ok, a lot of questions got answered, but I agree this episode was boring. I was ready to say I did not care about next season until Locke showed up in the coffin.
Comment 96, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
michael is gone the island let him go…jin isnt dead we saw him in a flashforward earlier with the big panda…couldnt believe it was locke…feel bad for ben cause he cant go back to the island cause that was his home and all he knew…way to take one for the team
Comment 97, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Toeknee wrote:
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Good call Hammer. Until that last scene I thought she was blaming Widmore, and was planning on taking her revenge. Not exactly sure why she should blame Jack - Ben or Widmore are more culpable, IMHO.
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Yeah, it seemed she is just pissed at ALL the bad decisions Jack pushed the group into and I got that feeling from part 1. In part 2/3 Jack kept yelling to take off, don’t go here, go there, etc. Her anger may be directed incorrectly, but it’s at Jack nontheless.
Comment 98, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
so Gin, Micheal, and Locke are all dead
plus it looks like Claire since she was in that apperation or whatever it was. Wow 4 originals all gone.
Comment 99, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
octagonglobalrecruiting.com
can’t wait to see what will be brewing there!
Comment 100, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Hammer wrote:
WHAT DOOR? I am outta here. Too many newbies gonna be talking about the previews.
I’m with you, the finale is too big, see you guys at the start….
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Wow! I’m glad I placed myself on a self-imposed exile from Lost-internet sites for the past week. I didn’t want to take the chance of getting any whiff of a spoiler. I can’t imagine watching this show after getting hints about what’s going to happen in an episode - it must really take away from the experience.
Comment 101, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Jeremy Bentham= philosopher who came up with the idea for a prison called the Panopticon (the concept was that prisoners would be more easily controlled if they thought someone was always watching them; the idea of an invisible omniscient prison guard is most effective).
Comment 102, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Anyone catch the ad for Octagon Global Recruiting? Is there another ARG in the works?
Comment 103, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
vaughn wrote:
Jin may still be alive, but he WAS NOT IN AN FF WITH A PANDA!!! That was an FB.
Comment 104, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
This was a really great season, and is the best show ever to be on television.
Questions:
Why can the person who moves the island not return?
How did Locke/Bentham end up off of the island and dead?
What took place after Jack and company left that was so horrible?
Do Desmond and Lapitus have to return with the Oceanic 6?
Comment 105, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Dharma Bums wrote:
John didn’t end up off the island and dead he came “home” and then died. He met with all of the surivors.
Comment 106, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Andrew wrote:
Maybe dead, but not gone….whisperers. Plus we have see how and why Locke left the island looking for help. His story is not over and looks like he will become like CS….a whisperer!
Comment 107, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
vaughn wrote:
Actually that was a flashback for Jin coupled with a flash forward for Sun.
Comment 108, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Hammer wrote:
Jin may still be alive, but he WAS NOT IN AN FF WITH A PANDA!!! That was an FB.
that wasnt a flashback because sun was having her baby at the same time and it made it look like he was going to her but he really wasnt…he went to the executive guys hospital…she only has one kid and that was it FF FF FF
Comment 109, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Andrew wrote:
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I still have a feeling that Jin will NOT be dead afterall, though Sun (and everyone) thinks he is. He may yet turn up. Claire is dead for sure, as is Michael - since the island “released” him. I am wondering about Ben though. Is HE dead as well? He seemed alive in the flash forward in Tunesia (wearing the parka), but who waits in funeral parlors in the night just in case someone should show up and break in???? Did he die at the FDW, and THAT’S why “the one who moves the island can never come back”??? (At least not in live form)
Comment 110, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
MLC wrote:
This really made me LOL!
Comment 111, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
BTW, there were plenty of whispers going on when Alpert’s team showed up. Please see Whisper Theory thread.
Comment 112, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Crazy episode…as weird as it sounds, I was glad Ben didn’t die, or “not come back”…I almost took that as we wouldnt be seeing Ben anymore…I hope for the same from Locke and that he is not dead
One thing I noticed was that the whispers seem to appear when a death is about to occur or there is something with death related i.e. Michael on the ship as well as Hurley playing chess against Eko (a nice “appearance” from his character)…and I cannot back this up with every whispers occurrence but it seemed that way tonite…Lastly, I liked the way Jack said goodbye to Desmond, leaving me to believe they will meet again
Comment 113, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Kathy wrote:
Great call, Kathy. I was glad to see this development.
I hope Faraday is still alive and remains a regular character - I wonder what happened to that raft?
Comment 114, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
vaughn wrote:
Jin may still be alive, but he WAS NOT IN AN FF WITH A PANDA!!! That was an FB.
that wasnt a flashback because sun was having her baby at the same time and it made it look like he was going to her but he really wasnt…he went to the executive guys hospital…she only has one kid and that was it FF FF FF
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This isn’t the right thread to debate. Please do a little research, it was confirmed by D&C that Jin’s was a FB and Sun’s was an FF.
Comment 115, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Charlotte was born on the island???? Nobody can be born on the island…could she be Alpert’s long lost sister???
A great finale.
I miss Jin already.
And thank god we saw who was in the coffin. I don’t think i could handle having to read more speculation about who it was.
Comment 116, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Sayid said that Bentham talked to him, Hurley talked to him, they all seemed to talk to him. Bentham = Locke, but HOW did he find everyone and how did he die? Did Sayid kill him and then tell Hurley it was an apparent suicide? How did Jack know it was him when he read the obit? Oh… because he talked to him too!!! I am so confused.
Aaron is absolutely Michael’s son. When Michael asked, “Did you tell anyone?”, we were supposed to believe he was talking about the C4 but when Sun told him she is pregnant… it was OBVIOUS that there was something between them.
As my niece would say, “Oh My Stars!!!!” What a great night for LOST!!!!
Comment 117, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Did anyone see the commercial that was for
‘octagonglobalresearch’ it was like a spoof
type thing that said “Paid for by ABC” in the
bottom left hand corner of the screen. I’ve
googled and googled but nothing has come up.
If someone else saw it, could you let me know
if I have the right info for searching for it?
Thank you! PS~LOVED this finale!
Comment 118, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
did anyone else have problems with their cable reception during the show?
Comment 119, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
omg there is so much stuff im still in shock from like how they killed jin
and did faraday and the others die as well?
why did christian shepard appear in front of micahael right before he died?
and i think that the second person sun blames jins death on is ben and that her and whitmore will tem up to kill him
and omg the end was amazing locke is in the coffin?!?!?
i never expected that at all!!!…BUT WHY DID HE CHANGE HIS NAME
it was sooo cool how ben managed to move the island
omg theres so much to sayy about this
its the best finale=)
Comment 120, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
kay wrote:
Great call, Kay. I was a bit disappointed to see that their secret code/term was actually what we saw on-screen.
Comment 121, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
vaughn wrote:
Jin may still be alive, but he WAS NOT IN AN FF WITH A PANDA!!! That was an FB.
that wasnt a flashback because sun was having her baby at the same time and it made it look like he was going to her but he really wasnt…he went to the executive guys hospital…she only has one kid and that was it FF FF FF
No … this one has been proven over and over.
Sun = FF
Jin = FB
That’s all I’ll say as I am against cruelty to animals, including dead horses. :)
Comment 122, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Am I crazy or did it seem like Michael could be the father of Sun’s baby? It always seemed like something was going on between them through out the first two seasons… Isn’t Jin sterile??? I do not recall if they ever show what the baby looks like this season…
Comment 123, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Trixanna wrote:
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You mean Ji Yeon is Michael’s, right? And YES, I ABSOLUTELY AGREE!!!
Also, does anyone else think that Charlotte could be our long lost Annie????
Comment 124, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
The site was octagonglobalrecruiting.com. I had problems w/adobe player, so I wasn’t able to submit my e-mail. Oh well, it’s not like I’d be schlepping out to San Diego in July anyway.
Comment 125, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Christal wrote:
Go to www.octagonglobalresearch.com. I’m hoping it’s another summer diversion!!!
Comment 126, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Ok, you can’t say that Jin is still alive because we saw him in a flashforward with a panda. We didn’t see him in a flashforward. That part of the episode wasn’t a flashforward, but a flash back.
Overall, I thought it was a great episode with good twists and turns. Also thought it was great how they tied this episode to last year’s finale.
Just a few points:
* Sun told her father last week that two people were responsible for her husband’s death. Does she blame Jack or Widmore? I can’t believe that she would be in cohoots (there is a good Southern word from a Southern boy, LOL) with Widmore in the future.
* For all of the conflict between Jack and Locke over the last three years, Jack did exactly what Locke told him to do and apparently drank the Koolaid that Locke was serving up to him before Locke’s untimely “suicide.”
* Widmore had to have had Locke killed.
* Don’t forget that Ben has already put Widmore on notice that he is going after Penny. That should be interesting over the next two seasons and also keep Desmond involved in the show. Can anyone else think of a Desmond angle now that he and Penny are together?
so much more to talk about…..
Comment 127, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
wish i were lost wrote:
Come on…. breathe deep… think about it. AARON was born on the island. You can be conceived on the island OR you can be squeezed out on the island. Just not both - conceived & squeezed.
Comment 128, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Hammer wrote:
Hammer - I didn’t see you mention this yet. But in Kate’s FF, when she had her dream, she answered the phone, and the closed-captioning said “Ghostly whispering on the phone”. After seeing Claire, it makes sense, but without the closed-captioning I wouldn’t have guessed that they were whispers coming over the phone.
Comment 129, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Charlotte is Annie, Ben’s childhood friend on the island. Rita you are so right.
Comment 130, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Rita wrote:
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I still have a feeling that Jin will NOT be dead afterall, though Sun (and everyone) thinks he is. He may yet turn up. Claire is dead for sure, as is Michael - since the island “released” him. I am wondering about Ben though. Is HE dead as well? He seemed alive in the flash forward in Tunesia (wearing the parka), but who waits in funeral parlors in the night just in case someone should show up and break in???? Did he die at the FDW, and THAT’S why “the one who moves the island can never come back”??? (At least not in live form)
I said the same thing! What the heck was Ben doing there? I even thought HE might be dead. He looked a little pale….actually VERY pale. He needs a tan if he is alive LOL! Everything with the Oceanic six seems creepy. Claire, Ben, Hurley. Weird picture that hung in Kate’s house.
Comment 131, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Rita wrote:
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You mean Ji Yeon is Michael’s, right? And YES, I ABSOLUTELY AGREE!!!
Also, does anyone else think that Charlotte could be our long lost Annie????
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Brilliant idea!!!!!!!!
Comment 132, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
RD wrote:
Really? You didn’t have your TV tuned to NBC by mistake did you?
Comment 133, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Anyone run that phone call to Kate backwards yet?
Comment 134, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
2 more things
- I wonder what happened to Farraday and his group of 815 survivors, i mean if they made it back to mainland woudnt the world know, and have questioned the Oceanic 6?
-Walt thinks his pops is alive he’s gonna go back!!
Comment 135, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Toeknee wrote:
Great catch, I don’t use the captioning.
Comment 136, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
vaughn wrote:
Um, no.
SUN was in a FlashFORWARD, while simultaneously, Jin was in a FlashBACK. This isn’t just speculation, D&C confirmed it in a podcast.
: ) P
Comment 137, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Nothing gets past the DocH. You are correct. maybe two hours of lost is just too much for me
Comment 138, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
did anyone get there email to work for the octagon registration??
Comment 139, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
LostFan wrote:
Locke had to change his name - he was presumed to have died in the plane crash. Just like Ben has a bunch of fake passports for when he leaves the island, Locke probably has to do the same.
Comment 140, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
RD wrote:
Boring? There was not one SINGLE second of this episode that was boring, in my opinion. I was really worried that I would be disappointed because of the built-up anticipation, but it was freekin amazing.
So, now… whether Ji Yeon is Jin’s or Michael’s, does SHE have to go back to the island?
: ) P
Comment 141, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Rita wrote:
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You mean Ji Yeon is Michael’s, right? And YES, I ABSOLUTELY AGREE!!!
Also, does anyone else think that Charlotte could be our long lost Annie????
I thought about that with Charlotte so it could be possible but I don’t know…I would think Ben would have been with Annie cause they had a childhood thing.
Where is everyone getting this Micheal is Sun’s baby’s daddy? I thought it was a joke earlier! Did I miss something? If that is true I never saw that coming!! What episode is it in that everyone is getting the idea from? I want to see!!
Comment 142, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Writer wrote:
I don’t think the thing was with Jin and the panda and Sun giving birth was a complete flash forward. I think the parts with Jin was a flash back and the parts with Sun was a flash forward, unless I missed something.
Comment 143, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
jim wrote:
Yes, but not through IE, It worked through avant browser
Comment 144, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
The Los Angeles Lakers head to the NBA finals as they have just won the Western Conf. Finals over the San Antonia Spurs….
Comment 145, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
I don’t care what you know -
I don’t care what you think -
I don’t care what you think you might know -
I don’t care what you know you might think…
That was easily two of the best produced, acted, written, directed, filmed - hours of TV ever presented.
Comment 146, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Remind me who annie is?
Comment 147, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
PJSander wrote:
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I think she would have to as well. And Aaron. What was with the “vision” of Claire demanding that Kate never take him back to the island? Ji Yeon and Aaron. Adam and Eve.
Comment 148, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
PJSander wrote:
Um, no.
SUN was in a FlashFORWARD, while simultaneously, Jin was in a FlashBACK. This isn’t just speculation, D&C confirmed it in a podcast.
: ) P
Oops, sorry for commenting on your commented comment.
Comment 149, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Rita wrote:
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You mean Ji Yeon is Michael’s, right? And YES, I ABSOLUTELY AGREE!!!
Also, does anyone else think that Charlotte could be our long lost Annie????
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Yes, Rita. In my excitement I mistakenly said Aaron. Thanks for the correction!!
Charlotte as Annie? Wow! Did she ever see Ben? Is he why she wanted to stay? I think you might have hit that one one the head!
Comment 150, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Keys wrote:
LOL not yet, is that even possible??
Comment 151, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Writer wrote:
When Jack said goodbye to Desmond, he said something like, “Don’t let him/them find you”. He may have been talking about Widmore. Remember too that Sun said to Widmore something like “You know we weren’t the only ones to get off the island.” So perhaps Widmore knows Desmond is still alive and is off the island, and Widmore trying to track down Desmond will be a plotline next season.
Comment 152, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
DocH wrote:
I agree completely… except that I would venture to add the first hour and say THREE of the best produced, acted, written, directed, filmed - hours of TV ever presented.
LOST better not get shut out of the Emmys THIS year!
: ) P
Comment 153, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Toeknee wrote:
Locke had to change his name - he was presumed to have died in the plane crash. Just like Ben has a bunch of fake passports for when he leaves the island, Locke probably has to do the same.
Did Sun say something along the lines of Charles had been to the island too? If this is true…then who is Charles Whidmore REALLY?
Comment 154, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
DocH wrote:
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ENCORE!!!
Comment 155, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
DocH -
Agree with you 100%. Fantastic episode and show.
Comment 156, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
And just to make sure…there is no way this is the last season is it…I keep hearing people say this and it makes me want to strangle myself!
Comment 157, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
DocH wrote:
Well put…..period.
Comment 158, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Well we didn’t see Charlie. *pout*
So even though I have to have something to keep my hope going for the next SEVEN months, I admit that bringing him back in Season 5 or 6 would be “pushing it” as far as the audience accepting his return.
*I* won’t bring him up again, but I reserve the right to discuss him again should someone ELSE mention his name!
LOL
: ) P
Comment 159, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
PJSander wrote:
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Well PJ, he DID get to be one of the 3 who didn’t live after initially making it out of the plane!! That’s something isn’t it?
Comment 160, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
dude i dont care if u like him or not but keamy was a bad ass
Comment 161, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Tasha wrote:
Yeah, I’m not buying this theory either. I think it’s based in part on the time in season one when Sun and Jin were not getting along, and Sun and Michael were becoming closer. In one episode, they almost kissed. But it makes no sense for Michael to be the father. It makes the whole season 3 storyline of “Is the baby Jin’s or not?” pointless.
Comment 162, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
jim wrote:
I have the same question. How many more seasons? Is there only going to be 4 and a half seasons in the series? I think that is my last recollection, but I can’t find answers ANYWHERE.
But I want more!
Comment 163, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Hey, the Octagon Global Recruiting site… they mention July 24 to 27 in San Diego. Is that when Comic-Con is?
Also, a little chuckle to share… my niece is trying to think of something she can do to help people and travel. The Peace Corps is too structured for her, so when I saw that commercial, I thought, “Ooh, I should give that web address to Katie.”
LOL
Good thing I checked it out first!
: ) P
Comment 164, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
wish i were lost wrote:
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Thats right, i also think RED is ben’s friend from childhood in his fb, and that same girl could be aplerts sister also(aplert reminds me of peter pan)…, but no way is michael the father of sun’s baby, thats just stupid, go watch the episode they showed her baby, i didnt see ant black in there…
Comment 165, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
lost-on-mars wrote:
blame jack!
Comment 166, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
PJSander wrote:
I agree completely… except that I would venture to add the first hour and say THREE of the best produced, acted, written, directed, filmed - hours of TV ever presented.
LOST better not get shut out of the Emmys THIS year!
: ) P
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I want to nominate the entire scene when Ben and Locke were in the Orchid and Ben had absolutley no patience for the green horn Locke. I couldn’t get enough of the actor exchanges. Totally Emmy worthy.
Comment 167, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Assuming the liquid nitrogen really could stop the battery from functioning, why could they not then disconnect the battery and completely avoid the explosion?
Comment 168, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
PJSander wrote:
Replying to myself.
YUP!
http://www.comic-con.org/cci/
: ) P
Comment 169, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
jim wrote:
Annie was Ben’s childhood friend/sweetheart. In Ben’s FB episode from season 3 when we saw him arrive on the island as a young boy, he and Annie became very close.
Comment 170, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
What happened to Daniel and the castaway extras on the raft?
Comment 171, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
I felt terrible when
A. Sawyer jumped from the helicopter. My heart broke and then I saw the island… yeah! Jack made it sound like he CHOSE to stay behind… he chose to SACRIFICE!!!
B. Jin ran to the helicopter and Sun was screaming for him. Ouch!!! No wonder she is so bitter.
Did anyone else jump 2 feet into the air when Ben spoke to Jack at the funeral home??? Scared me half to death!!!
Not impressed with the Sawyer/Kate kiss. Not with Jack only feet away. Des/Penny… now THAT was a kiss!!!
ENJOYED seeing Sawyer walking onto the beach with NO shirt on! Ahhhh.
Oops… after midnight here… time for bed!
Comment 172, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Rita wrote:
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You mean Ji Yeon is Michael’s, right? And YES, I ABSOLUTELY AGREE!!!
Also, does anyone else think that Charlotte could be our long lost Annie????
I love Annie theories! Yes, I’m a sucker for that one, but if that’s true, why would she say she’s NEVER seen where she was born before?
Comment 173, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
omar wrote:
I don’t REALLY think Michael is Ji Yeon’s father, but I leave the door open that it IS possible.
Well FWIW, many newborn babies are very pale. Some African-American newborns look Caucasian and their skin darkens over time. This is especially so with bi-racial babies. I am not speaking from a medical POV, just as someone who has seen a whole LOT of newborns!
: ) P
Comment 174, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Toeknee wrote:
Yeah, I’m not buying this theory either. I think it’s based in part on the time in season one when Sun and Jin were not getting along, and Sun and Michael were becoming closer. In one episode, they almost kissed. But it makes no sense for Michael to be the father. It makes the whole season 3 storyline of “Is the baby Jin’s or not?” pointless.
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The moment Sun blurted out to Michael “I’m pregnant” I knew the baby was his. He knew it too - you could tell by his big smile. He knew it was his. No way it isn’t his. As for the storyline being pointless if it isn’t Jin’s: Sun is being set up as being quite adept at keeping secrets and telling lies, qualities she will use in her new role as Paik Industries new honcho.
Comment 175, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Toeknee wrote:
Annie was Ben’s childhood friend/sweetheart. In Ben’s FB episode from season 3 when we saw him arrive on the island as a young boy, he and Annie became very close.
Thanks Toeknee! I remember… Thats awesome, she probably is Charlotte! :)
Comment 176, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
that fight with keamy and sayid was the best fight scene on the show by far…like i said before…, sayid is a raw killer, probably the best character on the show…
Comment 177, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Trixanna wrote:
Charlotte is way younger than Ben, there is no way she could be Annie. She could however be Annie’s daughter (?) This fits a lot better with the character ages. It would also make sense if Annie got off the island right before the purge if she had told her daughter about the island and maybe also about her friend Ben Linus.
Comment 178, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Garth wrote:
I don’t know ANYTHING about bombs and such, but I’ve seen movies with bombs where disconnection meant EXPLOSION.
Comment 179, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
What happened from the Sayid/Hurley conversation to when the boat was sinking? I missed about 10 minutes because my daughter messed with the DVR. Any summaries are appreciated!
Comment 180, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
In case any of you missed this, or forgot about it, supposedly 3 different endings for this episode were filmed, and the other two will be shown on Good Morning America tomorrow. I’m sure they’ll eventually be on ABC.com too.
Comment 181, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Rita wrote:
I completely agree that based on what we saw tonight, it LOOKS like it could be that way. But the only hesitation I have is that Sun was so overwhelmingly relieved that it was not Jae’s baby. I can’t imagine that she would feel that kind of relief only to worry that her baby could be Michael’s.
: ) P
Comment 182, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Rita wrote:
Yeah, I’m not buying this theory either. I think it’s based in part on the time in season one when Sun and Jin were not getting along, and Sun and Michael were becoming closer. In one episode, they almost kissed. But it makes no sense for Michael to be the father. It makes the whole season 3 storyline of “Is the baby Jin’s or not?” pointless.
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The moment Sun blurted out to Michael “I’m pregnant” I knew the baby was his. He knew it too - you could tell by his big smile. He knew it was his. No way it isn’t his. As for the storyline being pointless if it isn’t Jin’s: Sun is being set up as being quite adept at keeping secrets and telling lies, qualities she will use in her new role as Paik Industries new honcho.
Wow I didn’t interpret that scene that way at all. I thought Micheal’s happiness came from the ultimate end of their “thing”. Because he knew he could never be with her happily ever after, he had a bomb to take care of, and he didn’t have the greatest faith in his plan.
Comment 183, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Garth wrote:
Freezing the battery was just a way of stalling, or delaying the inevitable. They WERE trying to un-arm the bomb, they were just freezing the bomb to give them more time.
I have to say — I was very well pleased with this season finale. And as far as I’m concerned, Penny + Desmond = A very happy me. All I wanted to see was them get back together; they can do whatever they want with the show from now on, and I won’t care.
Comment 184, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Laura wrote:
As much as I love the idea that Charlotte is Annie, I am not sure I agree it is the case. However, the age difference MAY be explained Charlotte she was somewhere “not aging” like Captain Eyeliner, oops, I mean Alpert.
: ) P
Comment 185, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
omar wrote:
im not trying to burst the sayid bad ass bubble but keamy would have killed him if he wasnt shot in the back cause he was gonna choke him to death
Comment 186, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Pam wrote:
I don’t know ANYTHING about bombs and such, but I’ve seen movies with bombs where disconnection meant EXPLOSION.
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Desmond explained that this was the case. The system was set us so if anyone tried to tamper with it in just about any possible way, it would explode.
Comment 187, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Ji Yeon and Aaron. Black (’cause she’s MICHAEL’S!!) and White stones. Adam and Eve.
Also, remember back to when Hurley and Sun are in Korea (FF) and Hurley looks at Ji Yeon and says “she looks just like Jin doesn’t she?” and Sun hesitates before answering? I started suspecting it then, that Ji Yeon WASN’T REALLY JIN’S. Now it is confimed, she’s Michael’s.
Comment 188, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Hey what about Hugo playing chess with Mr. Echo…, he said “checkmate”…any comments on that….
Comment 189, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
PJSander wrote:
As much as I love the idea that Charlotte is Annie, I am not sure I agree it is the case. However, the age difference MAY be explained Charlotte she was somewhere “not aging” like Captain Eyeliner, oops, I mean Alpert.
: ) P
Is there a big age difference between Charlotte and Ben? Couldn’t she just look young and youthful for her age?
Comment 190, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
PJSander wrote:
Comic Con is indeed in San Diego on those dates. The “terms and conditions” on the Octagon site seemed to be related to sweepstakes entries, so I’m guessing this is not an ARG…:( Bummer.
Comment 191, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
vaughn wrote:
im not trying to burst the sayid bad ass bubble but keamy would have killed him if he wasnt shot in the back cause he was gonna choke him to death
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Say vaughn, Who the F*** asked you??
Comment 192, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
DocH wrote:
Would you watch it in a house with a mouse?
Would you watch it in a box with a fox?
Would you watch it here or there?
Would you watch it on an island with a boar?
Comment 193, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Toeknee wrote:
I don’t know ANYTHING about bombs and such, but I’ve seen movies with bombs where disconnection meant EXPLOSION.
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Desmond explained that this was the case. The system was set us so if anyone tried to tamper with it in just about any possible way, it would explode.
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Thanks for the clarification. I didn’t catch that. Sometimes I think I have adult onset ADD.
Comment 194, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Pam wrote:
There are two more seasons left. Originally, we were promised 48 episodes. Seasons 4, 5 and 6 were each going to be sixteen episodes long. Then the WGA strike interfered with Season 4, and we ended up with twelve episodes (which include the three hour finale).
The producers then said that the deficit of episodes would be made up to us in Seasons 5 and 6.
Then, S4E12 expanded to three hours. That gives us 12 episodes, but fourteen HOURS. If you count episodes, we have 36 left to go. If you count hours, we have 34 left to go.
D&C have not clarified if they are counting the final episode as one, two or three episodes with respect to the total 48.
But either way, we have two more seasons to look forward to. Season 5 is scheduled for early 2009.
HTH,
: ) P
Comment 195, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Toeknee wrote:
I don’t know ANYTHING about bombs and such, but I’ve seen movies with bombs where disconnection meant EXPLOSION.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Desmond explained that this was the case. The system was set us so if anyone tried to tamper with it in just about any possible way, it would explode.
Thanks for the response (Pam, saw yours too). Here is the thing. Plastic explosives only explode if there is an electrical charge. So, if the method of providing that charge was removed, there would be no explosion. So, one of two scenarios occurs:
A) The Battery is not the only method of providing a charge, and thus the explosion occurs immediately after the remote device signals because, while the battery is disabled, the “secondary charge” kicks in
or
B) The Battery is the only method of providing a charge, and thus once the freezing method proves effective, disconnecting the charge becomes possible, and the plastic explosives become no more dangerous than Play-Doh
I know this is an upbeat site, and I dont want to bring down your enthusiasm for a well made show, but there are a lot of little things about the writting that irk me. Thats all
Comment 196, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Rita wrote:
I appreciate what you are saying, but in no way was it confirmed. I am on the other side. I don’t think she is Michael’s.
Comment 197, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Anyone wonder why all of the “visions” of dead people are telling the losties to back to the island except for Kate? I am.
Comment 198, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
lost chicka wrote:
Would you watch it in a house with a mouse?
Would you watch it in a box with a fox?
Would you watch it here or there?
Would you watch it on an island with a boar?
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Ok Dr. Seuss, lol, where u been at…and the last one didnt rhyme…
Comment 199, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Rita wrote:
Yeah, I’m not buying this theory either. I think it’s based in part on the time in season one when Sun and Jin were not getting along, and Sun and Michael were becoming closer. In one episode, they almost kissed. But it makes no sense for Michael to be the father. It makes the whole season 3 storyline of “Is the baby Jin’s or not?” pointless.
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The moment Sun blurted out to Michael “I’m pregnant” I knew the baby was his. He knew it too - you could tell by his big smile. He knew it was his. No way it isn’t his. As for the storyline being pointless if it isn’t Jin’s: Sun is being set up as being quite adept at keeping secrets and telling lies, qualities she will use in her new role as Paik Industries new honcho.
was that in part 1 of the finale?
Comment 200, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
PJSander wrote:
There are two more seasons left. Originally, we were promised 48 episodes. Seasons 4, 5 and 6 were each going to be sixteen episodes long. Then the WGA strike interfered with Season 4, and we ended up with twelve episodes (which include the three hour finale).
The producers then said that the deficit of episodes would be made up to us in Seasons 5 and 6.
Then, S4E12 expanded to three hours. That gives us 12 episodes, but fourteen HOURS. If you count episodes, we have 36 left to go. If you count hours, we have 34 left to go.
D&C have not clarified if they are counting the final episode as one, two or three episodes with respect to the total 48.
But either way, we have two more seasons to look forward to. Season 5 is scheduled for early 2009.
HTH,
: ) P
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Thank you SO much. I haven’t been keeping up with Lostnews recently.
Comment 201, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Hey Vaughn! Who might have been killed if he wasn’t shot in the back, because he was gonna be choked to death.
Comment 202, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
vaughn wrote:
there is a big difference between bad ass and asshole….(sorry to offend)
Comment 203, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Hammer wrote:
I appreciate what you are saying, but in no way was it confirmed. I am on the other side. I don’t think she is Michael’s.
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Yeah, you’re right, not officially confimed, so we will just have to wait and see (like with everything else we want to know!). Just curious Hammer, why DON’T you think she is Michael’s?
Comment 204, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
omar wrote:
Would you watch it in a house with a mouse?
Would you watch it in a box with a fox?
Would you watch it here or there?
Would you watch it on an island with a boar?
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Ok Dr. Seuss, lol, where u been at…and the last one didnt rhyme…
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Are there even boars on the island?
JK
Comment 205, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Pam wrote:
Early in S4 (don’t know the episodes well enough to say which one), Ben is held captive and John is asking for answers. Ben rattles off Charlotte’s vital statistics, which include that she is 25 (which caused issues, given that she has a PhD in anthropology, not easy to get so young).
We know Ben was born in the early 60’s, making him somewhere in his early 40’s in 2004.
: ) P
Comment 206, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
DocH wrote:
i was talking about keamy and sayid fighting and how keamy would have beat sayid if keamy was not shot in the back because he was choking sayid to death…and yes keamy was an asshole but u cant deny that the man wasnt taking care of his business although i think it was cool ben killed him
Comment 207, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Pam wrote:
Would you watch it in a house with a mouse?
Would you watch it in a box with a fox?
Would you watch it here or there?
Would you watch it on an island with a boar?
===========
Ok Dr. Seuss, lol, where u been at…and the last one didnt rhyme…
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Are there even boars on the island?
JK
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Well there were season 1. That’s what they ate until the Dharma food drops were discovered.
Comment 208, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Garth wrote:
I don’t know ANYTHING about bombs and such, but I’ve seen movies with bombs where disconnection meant EXPLOSION.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Desmond explained that this was the case. The system was set us so if anyone tried to tamper with it in just about any possible way, it would explode.
Thanks for the response (Pam, saw yours too). Here is the thing. Plastic explosives only explode if there is an electrical charge. So, if the method of providing that charge was removed, there would be no explosion. So, one of two scenarios occurs:
A) The Battery is not the only method of providing a charge, and thus the explosion occurs immediately after the remote device signals because, while the battery is disabled, the “secondary charge” kicks in
or
B) The Battery is the only method of providing a charge, and thus once the freezing method proves effective, disconnecting the charge becomes possible, and the plastic explosives become no more dangerous than Play-Doh
I know this is an upbeat site, and I dont want to bring down your enthusiasm for a well made show, but there are a lot of little things about the writting that irk me. Thats all
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I might be misunderstanding your point. I don’t understand point A, and point B was a problem for Micheal because he didn’t have enough stuff to freeze the battery.
Comment 209, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
PJSander wrote:
Early in S4 (don’t know the episodes well enough to say which one), Ben is held captive and John is asking for answers. Ben rattles off Charlotte’s vital statistics, which include that she is 25 (which caused issues, given that she has a PhD in anthropology, not easy to get so young).
We know Ben was born in the early 60’s, making him somewhere in his early 40’s in 2004.
: ) P
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Thanks!
Comment 210, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
My 2 cents on Charlotte/Annie..
when we first saw her she was searching for the island in the sahara desert/tunisia vicinity.. a similar locale to where ben was found wandering earlier this year.. the only way she could have known about that place was if she had previous knowledge of the island and/or was on the island.. and the sahara coast is probably one of the other locations for the island after it’s moved.. so she most likely is annie
Comment 211, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Garth wrote:
Thanks for your insight - I certainly don’t think there’s anything wrong with pointing out mistakes or unrealistic events in this show. Like Pam, I know nothing about explosives or electricity, so I bought Desmond’s explanation. I know they occasionally have some unrealistic scenarios on this show for dramatic purposes, and unless I’m knowledgeable about the subject, I’ll shrug it off. However, I will be interested in seeing what Popular Mechanics has to say about those explosives.
Comment 212, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Pam wrote:
The thing is, even if they COULD have disarmed the bomb in any way, they had to KNOW how to do it. They were TRYING to figure it out, but none of them had enough expertise to disarm the bomb in the time they had.
: ) P
Comment 213, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Pam wrote:
I don’t know ANYTHING about bombs and such, but I’ve seen movies with bombs where disconnection meant EXPLOSION.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Desmond explained that this was the case. The system was set us so if anyone tried to tamper with it in just about any possible way, it would explode.
Thanks for the response (Pam, saw yours too). Here is the thing. Plastic explosives only explode if there is an electrical charge. So, if the method of providing that charge was removed, there would be no explosion. So, one of two scenarios occurs:
A) The Battery is not the only method of providing a charge, and thus the explosion occurs immediately after the remote device signals because, while the battery is disabled, the “secondary charge” kicks in
or
B) The Battery is the only method of providing a charge, and thus once the freezing method proves effective, disconnecting the charge becomes possible, and the plastic explosives become no more dangerous than Play-Doh
I know this is an upbeat site, and I dont want to bring down your enthusiasm for a well made show, but there are a lot of little things about the writting that irk me. Thats all
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I might be misunderstanding your point. I don’t understand point A, and point B was a problem for Micheal because he didn’t have enough stuff to freeze the battery.
Point A is a hypothetical. IF the bomb is going to explode without a power source, it would explode immediately after the battery was frozen, because there is no power being emmited. The frozen battery may as well be a rock.
Point B is that, if the bomb doesnt explode because the battery is frozen, then why can’t they just disconnect it.
Comment 214, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Garth wrote:
I don’t know ANYTHING about bombs and such, but I’ve seen movies with bombs where disconnection meant EXPLOSION.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Desmond explained that this was the case. The system was set us so if anyone tried to tamper with it in just about any possible way, it would explode.
Thanks for the response (Pam, saw yours too). Here is the thing. Plastic explosives only explode if there is an electrical charge. So, if the method of providing that charge was removed, there would be no explosion. So, one of two scenarios occurs:
A) The Battery is not the only method of providing a charge, and thus the explosion occurs immediately after the remote device signals because, while the battery is disabled, the “secondary charge” kicks in
or
B) The Battery is the only method of providing a charge, and thus once the freezing method proves effective, disconnecting the charge becomes possible, and the plastic explosives become no more dangerous than Play-Doh
I know this is an upbeat site, and I dont want to bring down your enthusiasm for a well made show, but there are a lot of little things about the writting that irk me. Thats all
COuldn’t the time difference play into that or no?
Comment 215, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
yall r making too much of the bomb….if the island didnt want the bomb to go off it would not have…but jacob showed up and the bomb exploded, so yes the island blew up the freighter cause it does not want anyone to leave….
Comment 216, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Anyone want to take any guesses as to how many people, between now and midnight tomorrow night, post with “I don’t have time to read all the posts, but…” or something like it?
: ) P
Comment 217, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Rita wrote:
I appreciate what you are saying, but in no way was it confirmed. I am on the other side. I don’t think she is Michael’s.
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Yeah, you’re right, not officially confimed, so we will just have to wait and see (like with everything else we want to know!). Just curious Hammer, why DON’T you think she is Michael’s?
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Like I say, I appreciate your thoughts on it. I just never really bought into the idea. I think it’s a case of you are interpreting the acting to support your idea. Just like how I did with Sun being pissed at Jack. So you could be totally correct.
Comment 218, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
PJSander wrote:
Vegas has the over/under at 12. :)
Comment 219, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
E wrote:
Was that the same way that Desmond said goodbye to Jack in the flashback,when they were both running at the stadium?
: ) P
Comment 220, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
I have a feeling good ole DocH is gonna have a 12 page thesis on this….just too quiet.
Comment 221, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
PJSander wrote:
Early in S4 (don’t know the episodes well enough to say which one), Ben is held captive and John is asking for answers. Ben rattles off Charlotte’s vital statistics, which include that she is 25 (which caused issues, given that she has a PhD in anthropology, not easy to get so young).
We know Ben was born in the early 60’s, making him somewhere in his early 40’s in 2004.
: ) P
Actually I’m 25 and majored in archaeology in college, which is within the framework of the anthropology departments, and would be nearing the completion of my phD right now had I not gone a different route.. several friends have accomplished what they’re saying Charlotte has so I’d say her age is legit.. shes probably experienced some of that non-aging phenomenon Alpert somehow exhibits
Comment 222, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Tasha wrote:
Essentially correct, but the explosives scenario presented was BASICALLY correct. No errors.
Comment 223, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
PJSander wrote:
Was that the same way that Desmond said goodbye to Jack in the flashback,when they were both running at the stadium?
: ) P
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Yep.
Comment 224, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
I don’t think that Micheal and Sun were that close. He ran into her with no shirt once, she told him the truth about speaking English, but that’s about it….I don’t know. I would think that the writers would just let us know. Plus she confided in Juliet that she had an affair, why wouldn’t she just tell her she had sex with Micheal too? I really need to see this look that he gave her.
Comment 225, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Looks like they’re all going back. Widmore is so wealthy. Ben must have worked with him at one time. They either had a bet or a common experiment, or both. Widmore broke the rules by killing Ben’s daughter. Is the island under some kind of a dome? It’s studying behavior for one thing. Remember back in the beginning when all the mind games were going on? Kate in the cage? They’ve tested Jack and Sawyer a lot. They had their records. I also think Widmore would do anything to keep Penny away from her one true love. This could also be a dream or a fantasy - maybe Hurley’s. He’s saved them a bunch of times. Charlotte is connected to Ben somehow - and it is possible that Sun’s baby is Michael’s. It’s a tangled web of relationships and personal conflicts - just like life! Looks like someone decided to study it!
Comment 226, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Hammer wrote:
He may be in Arizona watching it late! Didn’t he do that not long ago or was that someone else?
Comment 227, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Ugh….so Lost is turning into one big religious allegory. I was kinda hoping Reason (Jack) would dominate Faith (Locke). Oh well, still an entertaining and thought provoking show. Before you got to sleep tonight pray to the island for your soul to keep…..
Comment 228, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
DocH wrote:
Essentially correct, but the explosives scenario presented was BASICALLY correct. No errors.
Can you please tell me what number comment you quoted?
Comment 229, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Tasha wrote:
He may be in Arizona watching it late! Didn’t he do that not long ago or was that someone else?
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I think DocH was pulling our collective chain back then.
Comment 230, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
IT IS TOUGH to write a 12 page thesis when 95% of your questions (short-term) HAVE BEEN addressed. Frozen donkey wheel? - close but no cigarillo. Frozen = Parka (DUH!). Arm wound = broken FDW ladder (DUH!).
Comment 231, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
So the Octagon thing has me thinking… eight is one of the numbers. If the four toed statue was built as a monument to someone or something, it would have had eight toes in total.
Eight people “survived” the crash. Eight people were on the helicopter / life raft.
There are eight main characters “left” behind: Sawyer, Juliet, Rose, Bernard, Daniel, Charlotte, Miles and Locke.
Btw, I noticed that in the last few episodes they’ve only shown Claire from the shoulders up. Couple that with the puffiness in her face, I would venture to guess that Emilie de Ravin is pregnant.
Just a thought.
: ) P
Comment 232, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Okay, for the last time this season I have a bedtime for Bonzo ponder thought:
Sun: Why does she enlist CW to find the island instead of talking with the O6? She’s pissed at how it all went down. She blames Jack for all the circumstances that lead to Jin’s possible death. She knows CW managed to find the island once, so is she riding his back to find it again? Does she become the economist because of her obsession with getting revenge for Jin much like how Ben is paying for his need to get revenge for Alex?
The look on her face when she walked away from CW reminded my of everytime Ben turned away from someone he just conned into thinking something was their own idea……………………
Comment 233, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Hammer wrote:
Was that the same way that Desmond said goodbye to Jack in the flashback,when they were both running at the stadium?
: ) P
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Yep.
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Yay. I made it! For some reason I thought Des told Jack “See you in another life, brotha.” Maybe I’m thinking of some one else.
Comment 234, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
DocH wrote:
IT IS TOUGH to write a 12 page thesis when 95% of your questions (short-term) HAVE BEEN addressed. Frozen donkey wheel? - close but no cigarillo. Frozen = Parka (DUH!). Arm wound = broken FDW ladder (DUH!).
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Yeah, I was really pulling for the time line collision….maybe next season?
Comment 235, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Okay… thanks for the love. Career pilot - fly my own Baron. Four Homes. Fort Worth, Durango, Tucson and Sonoma. Three daughters, widower, getting ready to adopt a fourth girl - best friends’ only child… catch you all next season (maybe).
Comment 236, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
DocH wrote:
Okay… thanks for the love. Career pilot - fly my own Baron. Four Homes. Fort Worth, Durango, Tucson and Sonoma. Three daughters, widower, getting ready to adopt a fourth girl - best friends’ only child… catch you all next season (maybe).
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Good luck sir. I hope you aren’t checking out until next season, but if you are….I don’t like the “maybe”. I’ll be very bummed out if you don’t come back.
Comment 237, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Hi all. I’ve been meaning to point this out ever since the episode where Alpert shows up all over the place (or time) to recruit Locke.
You all want to know why Alpert doesn’t age. He DOES age. Of course he does. He is human and humans age.
He looks the same age all the time when we see him because he TIME TRAVELS. He goes to whatever time he needs to be in to do what is needed for the island. But really all of this is happening at around the same time point in Alpert’s frame of reference.
Let’s say in real time 2004 he is say 38 years old. (and wears eyeliner). He realizes that the island will need aomone to save it so he goes back in time and recruits Ben. Zoom! Back to 2004. Ben can’t do it all. Alpert zooms back to recruit Locke. Locke’s not ready? Zoom to another time point and try again! OK now go and get Juliet.
All of it is happening at or close to the same time so of course Alpert doesn’t look much different! It is the same 2004 (or whatever time) Alpert in each scene!
Whew. Got that?
Ok other small points - people were asking whether Hugo gave Sun his fortune to buy out dad? No. We know Hugo have the money to HIS dad. When he saw the car and freaked his dad said “we got this for you before you gave us the money”
Comment 238, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
slugdoc wrote:
Could be. Except I seem to remember in a flashback, Alpert was hanging around a pre-teen Ben quite a bit.
slugdoc wrote:
Hurley won $156 million. The interest alone (at a meager 3% simple interest) would generate about $400,000 a month. He could have given his parents HALF the money (or even less) and still had enough to help Sun. I am not saying he DID, just that he could have.
: ) P
Comment 239, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Jack turning to lying to protect the others seems not to make much sense to me. For all they knew, there was noone left on the island except for sawyer (who for all they knew drowned), Locke (who Jack could care less about), Ben (ditto), Juliet (who may or may not have been on the raft), miles (dont care) , farraday (dont care) ,Charlotte (dont care) and the others. So who did he want to protect?
Comment 240, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Didn’t Sun state that she received a big settlement from the airline and that was how she bought out a controlling interest in her father’s company?
Comment 241, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
daddy03 wrote:
Well daddy03, YOU might not care about all those people (and Rose and Bernard), but I do think Jack cared.
: ) P
Comment 242, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
PJSander wrote:
The thing is, even if they COULD have disarmed the bomb in any way, they had to KNOW how to do it. They were TRYING to figure it out, but none of them had enough expertise to disarm the bomb in the time they had.
: ) P
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Ookay! Now I see your point.
Comment 243, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Garth wrote:
I don’t know ANYTHING about bombs and such, but I’ve seen movies with bombs where disconnection meant EXPLOSION.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Desmond explained that this was the case. The system was set us so if anyone tried to tamper with it in just about any possible way, it would explode.
Thanks for the response (Pam, saw yours too). Here is the thing. Plastic explosives only explode if there is an electrical charge. So, if the method of providing that charge was removed, there would be no explosion. So, one of two scenarios occurs:
A) The Battery is not the only method of providing a charge, and thus the explosion occurs immediately after the remote device signals because, while the battery is disabled, the “secondary charge” kicks in
or
B) The Battery is the only method of providing a charge, and thus once the freezing method proves effective, disconnecting the charge becomes possible, and the plastic explosives become no more dangerous than Play-Doh
I know this is an upbeat site, and I dont want to bring down your enthusiasm for a well made show, but there are a lot of little things about the writting that irk me. Thats all
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I might be misunderstanding your point. I don’t understand point A, and point B was a problem for Micheal because he didn’t have enough stuff to freeze the battery.
Point A is a hypothetical. IF the bomb is going to explode without a power source, it would explode immediately after the battery was frozen, because there is no power being emmited. The frozen battery may as well be a rock.
Point B is that, if the bomb doesnt explode because the battery is frozen, then why can’t they just disconnect it.
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Thanks for the simpler language. It’s getting clearer and clearer. The nice thing about watching people on tv interact with bombs is that it’s fictional. In the end all that matters is if you were entertained then the show served it’s purpose.
Comment 244, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
I havn’t read so breifly,
John “Did he say what I think he said?”
Ben “If you mean time traveling bunnies, then yes!”
I thought Sun would go up against Widmore but…..
They ALL have to go back?
Four years trying to get off the island, two trying to return.
W O W
Comment 245, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
squad wrote:
All the O6 did, apparently. However, there was a discussion after a previous episode that Paik Industries was very large company and that the settlement would like not have been enough to buy a controlling interest.
There was talk of Hurley giving Sun some of the lottery money.
Now, with “five banks” involved, it was suggested that it was the five adult O6′ers that contributed to Sun’s controlling interest.
: ) P
Comment 246, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
PJSander wrote:
Well daddy03, YOU might not care about all those people (and Rose and Bernard), but I do think Jack cared.
: ) P
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Ditto!
Comment 247, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Can someone please enlighten me on the following:
Why did the island choose to ‘release’ Michael at this particular moment and not before? How did that serve a greater purpose because it didn’t seem like he sacrificed his life to save anyone because everyone on the freighter except Sun and Desmond died anyway? Him freezing the battery may have bought them some time but, again, it only saveed Sun and Desmond.
I really really hope that Jin is not dead. It didn’t sadden me so much that Charlie died or that Locke’s dead, but I really want Jin and Sun to have a happy ending. Their few moments of reconciliation and redemption for Sun admitting that she had an affair didn’t really give much closure to the whole Sun-Jin story. Also, when CW asked Sun why she wanted to go back to the island, I’m hoping that its because she has some clue that Jin’s alive. Maybe Jeremy Bentham/Locke told her??
And how come the island let Locke die?? He must not be the chosen one, or, like the island stopped being happy with Ben, it stopped being happy with Locke.
And if Aaron is the chosen one, why does Claire not want him to come back?
I also think that the dead people, like Charlie, Echo etc, are themselves. They’re not the island using their bodies. Otherwise, why would Claire show so much concern for Aaron if that wasn’t her in Kate’s dream. Or maybe she’s not dead?
Okey..lotsa questions!! Greatly appreciate any thoughts!
Comment 248, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Whoa, dude!!! How will we all make it until January??? Sigh….
Ponderings:
1. Well, apparently Michael was right when he said he was there on the frieghter to die.
2. Ji Yeon is Jin’s. She looks just like Jin. I think Sun had just had a fight with Jin when she ran into Michael in the jungle. There was no love scene between them cuz Vincent interrupted them before they kissed. Considering Michael’s constant freak outs about Walt, Michael would have totally freaked out if he knew Sun was pregnant with his child. Sun just told Michael she was pregnant because he knew she and Jin were having big problems when he was still on the island. Sun just wanted Michael to know that she and Jin are happy and pregnant now.
3. WHAT ABOUT VINCENT??? : (
4. Alpert, Locke, CS Lewis connection?
CSLewis “Red”—-wild thought—-she’s Locke’s baby sis. Emily (Locke’s mom—very red!) had Locke when she was a teen, right? Therefore, she could’ve still had another baby much later—-CS Lewis. Maybe by Alpert since he came to see baby Locke, doesn’t seem to age, and maybe later took interest in Locke’s mom. Remember, Alpert told Locke, “Welcome home.”
5. Why did the island let Locke die? The “apparent suicide” totally has to be cover up of the real cause of his death. Did Ben kill him? Did Widmore kill him? Obviously the island is not done with Jack. Hmmm…well, if the island still needs Locke, why isn’t he “here, but not here” like Charlie?
6. What bad things are happening on the island? Alpert up to no good?
7. Wow, what’s up with Sun? Femme fatale or what? It will be interesting to see how her role will play out. I think Sun blames Ben or Widmore as the second person for Jin’s death, not Jack. I could totally see her being vengeful towards Ben, but not Jack. Is she going after Ben, or is she setting a trap for Widmore?
8. Did Sun look pregnant for the second time when she met with Widmore? Hard to tell with her trench coat, but I think so. She was talking to Ji Yeon on the phone, so it would be baby number 2 she’s pregnant with. Hurley, Jr.? Jin must truly be dead for Sun to transform into this femme fatale. Or maybe not.
9. Penny, keep running! But with Des now, of course.
10. Whatever Sawyer told Kate on the chopper was the errand she was running for him.
11. Night, night!
Comment 249, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
So Charlotte and Miles have been to the island before right? Were they raised on the island? Could Miles be the son of the instructor on the Dharma Initiative videos?
Comment 250, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
I have thoughts on Sun and Widmore, but it reads like a messy, un-researched term paper that deserves a “D”. What I need is a peer-review…well, here is the rough draft:
Sun
When she talked to Widmore in London I think her plan was to lay the ground work of a sort of business/blackmail relationship with him. She wants him to come to her the next time they meet, that’s why she gave him her business card which opens possible, but not mandatory interactions in the future. If she lets him, and if she plays him right, Widmore will come to Sun. This I hope, is Sun’s plan to get just close enough to Widmore to get her revenge. When she was talking to him face to face I saw a face of a practiced business woman with a plan. I think after watching her love (Jin that is, her husband, her baby’s father, she loves him) probably die on the freighter (I have a feeling the producers will clarify that Jin died on the freighter-you know there will be questions asked for their podcast) Sun gained something from her life on the island that empowers her. Her whole life was lived as a subordinate daughter and wife until she crashed onto an island. I think her covert flirting with Micheal (they shared great chemistry) and her experience of having to actually work and fight to survive gave her mental strength, diplomatic skill, and personal identity. Sun is a new woman.
Now, with a love to grieve, a daughter to raise Sun has a new life, and a new self to direct. I think, I hope that this new woman is planning to make Widmore pay…to get revenge.
*Now I want to know if I can work this into a theory, although it’s just a character sketch. Any thoughts on my Sunny thoughts?
**Maybe we should have threads where we can discuss individual characters, like theories, but just disections of who they are and what they can become…what the series can become…
I apologize for my 2 am attempts at television fueled enlightenment.
Comment 251, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Toeknee wrote:
Great call, Kathy. I was glad to see this development.
I hope Faraday is still alive and remains a regular character - I wonder what happened to that raft?
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Thanks man. I think I just got a little over zealous in my Charlotte analyzing. Now I’m boggled over this Charlotte born on the island thing. I was shocked at how she seemed to just blow off Faraday.
I was sorta thinking Sun’s baby was Micheal’s. There was a part on the freighter where she actually screamed for Micheal and not Jin, when both guys were in the same vicinity.
Not concrete on this Micheal’s baby idea…it would negate a lot of last season Jin stuff but the idea did occur to me as I watched the show.
Could any one make out what was said on the phone that woke Kate up for her Claire apparition? What is whispers? It sounded more like some one (Sawyer’s voice?) actually saying something just low and creepy.
Comment 252, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Wow maybe I shouldn’t think about Lost this late at night. intolost, you summarized my Sun ramblings in two words, “Femme Fatale”.
Okay here are my thoughts about Locke, pay no heed:
Locke and the Island
John’s motto, if you want to look at it that way, is, “This Island has a purpose”. Some people ask, if the Island has a purpose for Locke, why did he die? Locke didn’t die on the Island did he? What if Locke fullfilled his purpose, and when he returned “home” to talk the O6 into returning because the Island has a purpose for them NOW. So maybe Locke reached Island-induced enlightenment and died peacfully.
Comment 253, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
I apologize for my grammar mistakes. My grammar will improve with sleep.
Ugggggggggggggggh, sleep.
Comment 254, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
The reason that they HAVE to go back is they are all dead. The world is out of balance with them off the island.
Cool episodes.
Too bad Keamy is gone; Now who am I gonna be terrified of? Glad to see him back from the dead for a minute.
Tip; when fighting BAd dudes; check the damn pulse and then shoot them in the head for good luck…ha!
I want more smarty mouth Miles! Someone has to tell that pouty Charlotte off.
One Bitch;
One of the guys on the chopper could have leaned out and stuck their finger in the gas leak; come on!
Jack seems dense trying to tell Hugo the island didn’t move…what Medical School did he go to?
In Dumbsville? Someone said pill popping Jack represents “reason”…oh please!
Rose sure was a bitch to Miles…why?
Happy that; Michaels dead…finally.
Why didn’t Jin jump off the damn Ship?
Don’t believe he’s dead at all; as someone mentioned isn’t he in some Fast Forwards. How’s that?
And Sawyer; it was a ship not a “boat”.
And now that’s it’s gone I can’t stop mentioning my Pet Peeve…(I hear sighs of relief out there…ha.)
Where did the Zodiac boat go when the island moved?
I think Jin is setting Widmore up; she can’t be dumb enough to side with him—and also not such a slutty pig to screw Michael. She was so happy to be pregnant and if she had Jungle Fever on the island she would be super worried about the baby coming along. No way.
And LOST CHICKA: One can be both a bad ass and an asshole, me thinks.
Miss Kim; scolding about the rules just makes me want to break them. Rules are made to be broken. John Locke told me that (Don’t tell me what I can’t do!)
Comment 255, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Maybe this has been discussed before, but someone please help me understand here…
I believed the public thought that all passengers of the Oceanic 815 were found dead because Widmore had put the fake plane with dead bodies in the bottom of the ocean. It was broadcasted in news too. Then Oceanic 6 suddenly appeared as “survivors”… how could the public not question about the contradiction that there wasn’t supposed to be any survivors in the first place???
Comment 256, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Jin is either dead or on some random island in the middle of nowhere with natives.. therefore probably dead
He may have been able to jump off ship easily because they panned out with the camera and didn’t show us much.. but he would then be stuck in the water.. since lapidus said there was only ocean in each direction.. and he couldnt swim back to the island prior to it being moved because even the helicopter couldnt make it back in time
and since indonesia is 3000 miles and one week away.. hes stuck in no mans land.. unless the producers come up with some whacked out crazy angle to bring him back to life for a season 6 reunion with his desperate asian housewife
Comment 257, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Hammer wrote:
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Don’t sell your self short….It was #156 last week.
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Just some quick random comments after reading everyone’s posts:
. Widmore told Ben he was hiding his daughter and Ben would never find her. We now know Desmond is also in hiding with her. Thats why Sun said Widmore knew more people got off the island. He is hiding Penny and Des.
. Ben ends up in Tunisia the same way that Desmond ended up back in time after the hatch exploded. They both came in contact with the ‘mystery matter’ that is apparently part of the source of the island’s powers. Ben’s purposeful contact moved the island while Desmond’s obviously did not.
. It is ridiculous that I am already this excited for next season. I think that all the “current” action will be the intertwined stories of Jack trying to get the Oceanic Six back to the Island and Ben trying to track down Penny(along with Desmond), while the flashbacks will deal with everything that happened on the island from the moment it moved(including Faraday’s raft people. I would think the season will culminate with everyone getting back to Island in the final episode setting up the last season which will be all island, all the time. SWEET LORD, I LOVE THIS SHOW.
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“Im gonna keep my eye on you shorty”.
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slugdoc wrote:
That all sounds plausible. But how does Ben’s line to Alpert, “You remember birthdays, don’t you, Richard?” fit in? I took that line to be a clue that Alpert somehow does not get older.
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Newbie wrote:
The timing did seem a bit odd to me also. He didn’t seem to accomplish much between the time Keamy tried to kill him (and failed) and the time the ship exploded. Other than saving a few characters, which also included Aaron. So maybe that was the point, he was able to help Aaron get rescued, and if Aaron is an important character as many have speculated, the timing makes a little more sense.
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I’m pretty sure no one brought this up - so here I go: Did anyone else find it odd that 1) Keamy’s arm thingy went dead exactly at the same time the light turned red on the freighter? Isn’t there a time differential of like a day and a half? 2) Why couldn’t Locke have ripped off Keamy’s arm thingy and quickly put it on his own arm to keep the heart beat going?
Comment 263, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Newbie wrote:
That scene puzzled me. It could have just been a dream - earlier in the episode there was the scene where Kate yelled at Jack for suggesting they go back. So with that on her mind, she had a dream relating to that issue. But I don’t believe that Claire’s appearance was simply a dream. There were whispers on the phone in that scene, which makes me think that Claire’s appearance was caused by, or allowed by, the island. Also, Claire’s insistence that Aaron not be brought back to the island seems to be consistent with the scene from “Cabin Fever” with Claire and Christian in the cabin. Claire was very calm and happy in that scene, as if that is where she belonged, and Christian said something about Aaron being where he belonged (which was with Sawyer, who would help get Aaron off the island, and this ties into what I mentioned in the previous post about Michael’s work being done once Aaron was off the ship and headed for rescue).
However, how does this tie in with Ben telling Jack they ALL must go back to the island (presumably including Aaron also)? If Ben’s viewpoint is opposite of Claire’s and Christian’s, does that mean Ben no longer in the island’s good graces? (as an aside, it seemed to me that when Richard and Ben came face to face, Richard didn’t seem particularly happy to see Ben, so maybe Richard knew the island no longer wanted/needed Ben, and he only helped save Ben from Keamy so he could move the island and subsequently could never come back to the island) (as another aside, perhaps Widmore has a similar relationship with the island - at one point he lived on the island and was a leader, but then he fell out of favor with the island, and at one point had to move the island, so he cannot go back to it and he doesn’t know where it is). But if Ben is not in the island’s good graces, how does that tie in to Ben asking Sayid “Do you want me to protect your friends or not?” in the Economist? That implied that Ben still has a connection to the island, knows where it is, and has control over the fate of those on the island.
Sorry for rambling but this show continues to leave me confused (but in a good way) and a million different ideas are running through my mind. I hope this made sense. It’s amazing how they can answer so many questions, yet still raise more and more.
Comment 264, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
And yet ANOTHER puzzler - Locke was told to move the island as a way of escaping the threat of Keamy and his crew. Once those guys were all killed, and the ship had blown up, and almost everyone that Widmore hired (except Mile, Charlotte, Frank and Daniel) had died, the threat was eliminated, no? Widmore himself didn’t know where the island was, and without all those people on the ship, he wouldn’t be able to find it. So it seems like it wouldn’t have been necessary to move the island?
Comment 265, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
lostfan wrote:
1) I think D&C explained that electrical signals do not experience the time differential. There have been numerous examples of this - people on the island talking via sat phone to people on the freighter, the morse code message. So presumably Keamy’s arm thingy works in the same fashion.
2) I wonder if they were to try to take Keamy’s arm thingy off, it would immediately detect no pulse, and that would set off the explosives.
Comment 266, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
Circus Mom wrote:
rose wrote:
LOL! Those were two of my favorite lines. Also:
(while Jack and Locke were talking at the Orchid Station)
Sawyer: “What are those two talking about?”
Hurley: “Leader stuff?”
Comment 267, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
RE: comment 250, Pam’s “Sun Theory”:
I agree with a lot of what you wrote, that Sun may very well be playing Widmore and looking to exact revenge. However, I disagree that she is a “new woman”. She’s always been portrayed as manipulative and less than innocent. For example: planning to leave Jin and secretly run away with Jae to the US; using her father’s name to threaten Jin’s real mother; as a little girl, she let the maid take the blame for “The Glass Ballerina” breaking.
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Hammer wrote:
I appreciate what you are saying, but in no way was it confirmed. I am on the other side. I don’t think she is Michael’s.
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Yeah, you’re right, not officially confimed, so we will just have to wait and see (like with everything else we want to know!). Just curious Hammer, why DON’T you think she is Michael’s?
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Like I say, I appreciate your thoughts on it. I just never really bought into the idea. I think it’s a case of you are interpreting the acting to support your idea. Just like how I did with Sun being pissed at Jack. So you could be totally correct.
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And I think you are totally correct about Sun being pissed at Jack - in complete agreement there.
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Bobola wrote:
I assume you’re joking - the tank was a bit out of reach.
But I do have a complaint with that whole scenario - if the gas tank were leaking due to a bullet passing all the way through the gas tank, the leaking would have started on the island before they took off, and they would have noticed the leaking then (at least by smell, if not by sight).
Comment 270, posted 1 year, 1 month ago - Quote and reply
I agree that Widmore was on the island and had to move it, therefore nt allowing him back. Wasn’t John told to move the island, but in fact Ben moved it? Did this put a wrench in Jacobs plan?
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