There’s No Place Like Home, Part 1

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No Place Like Home - Lost Season 4
Lost’s two part, three hour season finale begins tonight, and if last week was any indication, then the final 3 hours of Lost this season are going to be incredible. We get one hour tonight, followed by a two week break, then we get the remaining two hours of the finale. It is still difficult, at this point, to determine why only the six get off the Island – and further, why just those six. We will definitely start to get a clearer picture of that tonight.

Spoiler Warning

The showdown between the survivors and the freighter people begins.

A relatively vague (imagine that!) show description, but based on what I know the general flow of tonight’s episode and the finale will be about how the Oceanic Six get off the Island, along with flash forwards detailing their homecoming of sorts.

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Sneak Peeks: Sneak Peek 1 | Sneak Peek 2 | Sneak Peek 3 | Sneak Peek 4


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  1. The countdown begins! seven hours, nine minutes and fourteen seconds.

    Tick
    tick
    tick

    : ) P

  2. Instead of speculating & spoiling (no previews for me), I’ll just start with my finale wish:

    1) I want to see the Others that went to the Temple get back in to the mix somehow.

    2) I want more Orchid clues/insight.

    3) I want Sawyer & Miles to do something brilliant together (soon).

    4) I want Ben to pull off of his super-duper, aha, you all fell for it, plans.

    5) I want a few more ideas about The Four-Toed Statue.

  3. DocH wrote:

    Instead of speculating & spoiling (no previews for me), I’ll just start with my finale wish:

    1) I want to see the Others that went to the Temple get back in to the mix somehow.

    2) I want more Orchid clues/insight.

    3) I want Sawyer & Miles to do something brilliant together (soon).

    4) I want Ben to pull off of his super-duper, aha, you all fell for it, plans.

    5) I want a few more ideas about The Four-Toed Statue.

    i DON’T want to wait 2 more weeks. bummer, i thought it was only 1

  4. DocH wrote:

    Instead of speculating & spoiling (no previews for me), I’ll just start with my finale wish:

    1) I want to see the Others that went to the Temple get back in to the mix somehow.

    2) I want more Orchid clues/insight.

    3) I want Sawyer & Miles to do something brilliant together (soon).

    4) I want Ben to pull off of his super-duper, aha, you all fell for it, plans.

    5) I want a few more ideas about The Four-Toed Statue.

    I DON’T want to wait 2 more weeks; bummer I thought there was only 1 week in between…

  5. I DON’T want wait 2 more weeks-bummer I thought there was only 1 in between…

  6. I wonder if tonight’s episode will have the island be the present or the past….watch for those “whoosh” sounds.
    Also, how long has it been since we have heard “PREVIOUSLY ON LOST”, I can’t remember, if not this week surely in 2 weeks.

  7. lola wrote:

    I DON’T want wait 2 more weeks-bummer I thought there was only 1 in between…

    There is only one week off. May 15- part 1
    May 22- no show May 29-part 2 and 3

  8. lost4ever wrote:

    lola wrote:

    I DON’T want wait 2 more weeks-bummer I thought there was only 1 in between…

    There is only one week off. May 15- part 1
    May 22- no show May 29-part 2 and 3

    thank god:)

  9. lola wrote:

    i DON’T want to wait 2 more weeks. bummer, i thought it was only 1

    One Thursday “off” between the two parts of the episode, which means two weeks between episodes.

    : ) P

  10. Oh how I wish we could have the whole 3 hours tonight, and that it would really be THREE COMMERCIAL FREE HOURS.

  11. So, do you think we will FINALLY find out who is in that damn coffin tonight??? Yes, yes, i said the C word…i have this funny feeling that it’s going to be Locke. Not quite sure why or how,just a feeling I got today.
    I’m also looking forward to finding out how the 6 actually get off the island and back home.
    Will we see the Orchid tonight…find out where it is and see the inside?
    And I’m with you DocH on fiding out where the Temple and the Others are.

  12. i can’t wait for tonight’s episode.
    this season has been really good so far and hopefully this episode will be just as great, with a little less comercials.

  13. I am interested to hear the top few items on everyone’s “Wish List” for the 3 season finale episodes. Stuff that will tide you over until Jan 2009… not the big stuff you want for the series finale - 37 episodes from now, but the smaller stuff.

  14. DocH wrote:

    I am interested to hear the top few items on everyone’s “Wish List” for the 3 season finale episodes. Stuff that will tide you over until Jan 2009… not the big stuff you want for the series finale - 37 episodes from now, but the smaller stuff.

    *******************************
    OK, here’s mine:
    1. What is the 4 toed stature?
    2. What is the temple?
    3. What happens to the people who stay on the island?
    4. What are the back-stories for
    a. Danielle
    b. Any freighter tots
    c. Richard Alpert
    If we could find this out, I would be content for a (very) little while.

  15. Rita wrote:

    OK, here’s mine:
    4. What are the back-stories for
    b. Any freighter tots

    Good one. I’ll add this one to my list too. Seems like we got them tossed in our supper dish really early in the season, and we got all excited at the interesting new ‘kibble-n-bits’ they added to the show, but production really hasn’t returned/FB’d to any of them, except when we see Dan with FB Des in “The Constant’.

  16. DocH wrote:

    I am interested to hear the top few items on everyone’s “Wish List” for the 3 season finale episodes. Stuff that will tide you over until Jan 2009… not the big stuff you want for the series finale - 37 episodes from now, but the smaller stuff.

    4) where are the children from flight 815?
    8) what is the four-toed statue?
    15) why does Alpert not age?
    16) why does he wear so much eye-liner?
    23) IS Charlie alive (you knew I would put that!)
    42) why THESE numbers?

    : ) P

  17. PJSander wrote:

    16) why does he wear so much eye-liner?
    42) why THESE numbers?

    I am guessing they will keep us hooked on the “Numbers” for at least 35 more episodes.

    As for the eye-liner, who knows? He may not have to wear it anymore… once he learns Tom is dead. (sorry… bad joke.)

  18. DocH wrote:

    As for the eye-liner, who knows? He may not have to wear it anymore… once he learns Tom is dead. (sorry… bad joke.)

    Bad, yes. But still funny!

    : ) P

  19. Do we find out if Claire is dead?
    What happens to Rose?

  20. jaime brought up “the coffin” and i think that is a reference to the flash forward where jack went to a funeral home. i too have wondered who is in the coffin and i would assume(probably wrongly) that is one of the “oceanic six”. does any one else have any guesses or theories?

  21. DocH wrote:

    I am interested to hear the top few items on everyone’s “Wish List” for the 3 season finale episodes. Stuff that will tide you over until Jan 2009… not the big stuff you want for the series finale - 37 episodes from now, but the smaller stuff.

    1.anything sawyer
    2.sayid kicking ass
    3 desmond surviving

  22. PJSander wrote:

    DocH wrote:

    As for the eye-liner, who knows? He may not have to wear it anymore… once he learns Tom is dead. (sorry… bad joke.)

    Bad, yes. But still funny!

    : ) P

    I wonder if Alpert has a murse???? ;P

  23. DocH wrote:

    I am interested to hear the top few items on everyone’s “Wish List” for the 3 season finale episodes. Stuff that will tide you over until Jan 2009… not the big stuff you want for the series finale - 37 episodes from now, but the smaller stuff.

    1. How did Ben end up in The Sahara Desert in Oct 2005?
    2. Who are “they” that Ben referred to when Hurley asked about the purge?
    3. Is Hurley still rich?
    4. Is DUI Jin REALLY dead?
    5. Charlie’s corpse displayed for PJ :)
    6. Anything “WAAAALT”, (except Michael screaming it of course)

    My coffin guess is Desmond. I too wish for freighter backstories ( damn writer’s strike). They said in a podcast they got cut this year but were planning for next year.

  24. firefly knight wrote:

    jaime brought up “the coffin”… i would assume(probably wrongly) that is one of the “oceanic six”. does any one else have any guesses or theories?

    The casket has been on everyones mind for a year… they may be bringing it back for finale time too. Hope they don’t tho. It’s been OA6 this year and we heard that two others survived the flight, but did not survive until rescue. That’s two we have to figure out plus the casket. Three bodies to account for???

    I could see where Claire might show-up as MIA from the OA8.

    Des and Michael are freighter-bound. I think you could rationalize that one of those two are in the casket, now that things are going poorly where they are. The casket scene is about three years into the future. Maybe the freighter is stuck in time that long, before it is recovered. Michael is known to the OA6 as a traitor… Des as a trusted friend. Why would no one go to Des’ memorial service? Unless he really messes things up on the freighter.

  25. DocH wrote:

    The casket has been on everyones mind for a year… they may be bringing it back for finale time too.

    I though they stated that we would know who is in the coffin by season’s end. Maybe not tonight though. Season 5 …. how does this person end up in the coffin.

  26. DocH wrote:

    The casket has been on everyones mind for a year… they may be bringing it back for finale time too. Hope they don’t tho. It’s been OA6 this year and we heard that two others survived the flight, but did not survive until rescue. That’s two we have to figure out plus the casket. Three bodies to account for?

    In a podcast (the “Mother’s Day” one if I remember correctly), I believe D&C said that we WOULD have an answer to who is in the casket by the end of this season.

    : ) P

  27. I will be REALLY disappointed if the vision of Claire and the baby getting on the helicopter does not come true because then Charlie died for absolutely nothing….of course we never saw the vision so maybe Desmond lied because HE wanted off the island!

    Regardless I already am 99% sure she isn’t getting on no helicopter…so they better find a way to bring MY Charlie back!!

  28. jaime wrote:

    So, do you think we will FINALLY find out who is in that damn coffin tonight??? Yes, yes, i said the C word…i have this funny feeling that it’s going to be Locke. Not quite sure why or how,just a feeling I got today.
    I’m also looking forward to finding out how the 6 actually get off the island and back home.
    Will we see the Orchid tonight…find out where it is and see the inside?
    And I’m with you DocH on fiding out where the Temple and the Others are.

    I thought we decided “Kevin Johnson” was in the coffin ???

  29. DocH wrote:

    firefly knight wrote:

    jaime brought up “the coffin”… i would assume(probably wrongly) that is one of the “oceanic six”. does any one else have any guesses or theories?

    The casket has been on everyones mind for a year… they may be bringing it back for finale time too. Hope they don’t tho. It’s been OA6 this year and we heard that two others survived the flight, but did not survive until rescue. That’s two we have to figure out plus the casket. Three bodies to account for???

    I could see where Claire might show-up as MIA from the OA8.

    Des and Michael are freighter-bound. I think you could rationalize that one of those two are in the casket, now that things are going poorly where they are. The casket scene is about three years into the future. Maybe the freighter is stuck in time that long, before it is recovered. Michael is known to the OA6 as a traitor… Des as a trusted friend. Why would no one go to Des’ memorial service? Unless he really messes things up on the freighter.

    ===

    I think it’s Michael for two reasons: 1) no one really cares for him because he left his friends with the scary others bound and with guns to their heads(which is why Kate said, “why would I go to HIS funeral?”) and 2) it’s in an African American neighborhood and he’s African American.

  30. I have to go by my memory because there are so many posts, but I’m pretty sure we discussed the newspaper clipping about the death that Jack had in the Season 3 finale and it had a “Jo” which some of us speculated was John Locke, but later learned of Michael’s new identity as Kevin Johnson, which Jack and Kate are privy to (somehow). The newspaper death announcement said he committed suicide (though it must have been a murder because we know Michael cannot commit suicide)…

  31. 1. I hate to really backtrack but I really want to know Libby’s story and why we saw her interact with several losties.
    2. I also would like the tots back stories, especially Charlotte’s and Miles.
    3. Of course, the coffin (I think it’s Michael/Kevin).

  32. I looked it up…
    “The newspaper clipping is an obituary that Jack ripped out of the Los Angeles Times. The article is about a man from New York who was found dead in Los Angeles. He first notices it on a flight from Sydney to Los Angeles. The man in the article seems to be someone both Kate and Jack know as Kate does not want to go to the funeral. However, the producers have said (despite what some people have deciphered from the article) that it would be re-written.

  33. JamieGirl wrote:

    I have to go by my memory because there are so many posts, but I’m pretty sure we discussed the newspaper clipping about the death that Jack had in the Season 3 finale and it had a “Jo” which some of us speculated was John Locke, but later learned of Michael’s new identity as Kevin Johnson, which Jack and Kate are privy to (somehow). The newspaper death announcement said he committed suicide (though it must have been a murder because we know Michael cannot commit suicide)…

    *****************************
    Well, at least he COULDN’T, but if the island is done with you, then who knows? But Michael has a mom and a son, so why wouldn’t ANYONE come to his funeral? I had thought too that it would be Michael, but now I really don’t know.

  34. Rita wrote:

    JamieGirl wrote:

    I have to go by my memory because there are so many posts, but I’m pretty sure we discussed the newspaper clipping about the death that Jack had in the Season 3 finale and it had a “Jo” which some of us speculated was John Locke, but later learned of Michael’s new identity as Kevin Johnson, which Jack and Kate are privy to (somehow). The newspaper death announcement said he committed suicide (though it must have been a murder because we know Michael cannot commit suicide)…

    *****************************
    Well, at least he COULDN’T, but if the island is done with you, then who knows? But Michael has a mom and a son, so why wouldn’t ANYONE come to his funeral? I had thought too that it would be Michael, but now I really don’t know.

    Because after the island “Michael goes to his mother’s house, who is caring for Walt. Michael’s mom doesn’t understand why they showed up at her house two months after the plane crash, and why she can’t tell anyone or call them by their real names. She also does not know why Walt is so distraught and having nightmares” (from Lostpedia).

  35. Okay, since we are talking about the coffing… I think it is Michael. I think he was finally able to do himself in. Whatever hold the island had may no longer be in effect, as Rita stated. No Walt or Mom? Maybe they didn’t know about it or maybe he has alienated (sp???) himself and they don’t want to go. My money is on Michael. RIP Michael!

  36. Ugh… coffin…. no coffing.

  37. Coffin. Not Coffing. Grrr! However, too much “coffing” can take you to the coffin. Yes?

  38. It feels like they’re throwing us curveballs to take our minds off the 95 mph heater coming down the middle. You can bet the Kansas City Shuffle is coming and when it does we’ll all be caught off guard.

  39. JamieGirl wrote:

    I have to go by my memory because there are so many posts, but I’m pretty sure we discussed the newspaper clipping about the death that Jack had in the Season 3 finale and it had a “Jo” which some of us speculated was John Locke, but later learned of Michael’s new identity as Kevin Johnson, which Jack and Kate are privy to (somehow). The newspaper death announcement said he committed suicide (though it must have been a murder because we know Michael cannot commit suicide)…

    and the obit said the person was from new york, survived by a teenage son (walt)-the “moving of the island” might have ended the effect the island has on michael’s hurting himself…however that that takes place roughly 2-2 &1/2 yrs from now depending on hold you think aaron is when shown after the trial

  40. Could someone explain to me what the Orchid is? I haven’t heard anything about it until reading this and would like to know before tonights episode. Thanks!

  41. DocH wrote:

    I am interested to hear the top few items on everyone’s “Wish List” for the 3 season finale episodes. Stuff that will tide you over until Jan 2009… not the big stuff you want for the series finale - 37 episodes from now, but the smaller stuff.

    Easy:

    1. Who are the Whisperers?
    2. Who is doing the whispering?
    3. Who whispers on the island?

    :)

  42. lola wrote:

    JamieGirl wrote:

    I have to go by my memory because there are so many posts, but I’m pretty sure we discussed the newspaper clipping about the death that Jack had in the Season 3 finale and it had a “Jo” which some of us speculated was John Locke, but later learned of Michael’s new identity as Kevin Johnson, which Jack and Kate are privy to (somehow). The newspaper death announcement said he committed suicide (though it must have been a murder because we know Michael cannot commit suicide)…

    and the obit said the person was from new york, survived by a teenage son (walt)-the “moving of the island” might have ended the effect the island has on michael’s hurting himself…however that that takes place roughly 2-2 &1/2 yrs from now depending on hold you think aaron is when shown after the trial

    Re: New York… “Michael’s Oceanic plane tickets that he receives from Brian Porter are tickets for flights from Sydney to New York. He is the only character we know of that was on the plane but was not going to Los Angeles”.

    My wish for tonight is no more curve balls. Just one hour of answers.

  43. My wish for tonight is NO COMMERCIALS!!!

  44. Here’s my wish list:
    I want Jack to find out Claire is his sister

    I want to see Kate and Juliet to have a cat fight in the mud

    I want Locke’s actions to be validated.

    I want the Red Wings to win the cup!

  45. JamieGirl wrote:

    Rita wrote:

    JamieGirl wrote:

    I have to go by my memory because there are so many posts, but I’m pretty sure we discussed the newspaper clipping about the death that Jack had in the Season 3 finale and it had a “Jo” which some of us speculated was John Locke, but later learned of Michael’s new identity as Kevin Johnson, which Jack and Kate are privy to (somehow). The newspaper death announcement said he committed suicide (though it must have been a murder because we know Michael cannot commit suicide)…

    *****************************
    Well, at least he COULDN’T, but if the island is done with you, then who knows? But Michael has a mom and a son, so why wouldn’t ANYONE come to his funeral? I had thought too that it would be Michael, but now I really don’t know.

    Because after the island “Michael goes to his mother’s house, who is caring for Walt. Michael’s mom doesn’t understand why they showed up at her house two months after the plane crash, and why she can’t tell anyone or call them by their real names. She also does not know why Walt is so distraught and having nightmares” (from Lostpedia).

    ***********************************
    Well, maybe (if it is Michael) his mom doesn’t know he is dead. I can’t imagine her NOT coming if she were able to do so. She might have to say it is a family member, or make up a story, but she would be there, and Walt with her. Most likely she doesn’t know the name he has been using, and was not notified of the death. Even a confused and distraught mom is still a mom.

  46. CAG wrote:

    Here’s my wish list:
    I want Jack to find out Claire is his sister

    I want to see Kate and Juliet to have a cat fight in the mud

    I want Locke’s actions to be validated.

    I want the Red Wings to win the cup!

    i don’t want to see kate and juliet have another cat fight in the mud (3rd season dude.) Boys…(rolls eyes) :)

  47. lostislife wrote:

    Could someone explain to me what the Orchid is? I haven’t heard anything about it until reading this and would like to know before tonights episode. Thanks!

    During comic con, they released an new orientation video for the station called the Orchid. In quick terms, the Asian looking Doc is talking and holding a rabbit with the no. 15 painted on it. While he’s talking somthing happens and suddenly there is another rabbit with no. 15 on it. There is some yelling about who screwed up and not to let the rabbits near each other. People are assuming that the expirementing going on was time travel and someone messed up and overlapped times creating the same rabbit from two times appearing at the same time…….

  48. KillerR wrote:

    It feels like they’re throwing us curveballs to take our minds off the 95 mph heater coming down the middle. You can bet the Kansas City Shuffle is coming and when it does we’ll all be caught off guard.

    Yep, seems rather obvious that it’s Michael…but I’m hoping it’s the curve.

  49. lostislife wrote:

    Could someone explain to me what the Orchid is? I haven’t heard anything about it until reading this and would like to know before tonights episode. Thanks!

    Here, you can see it for yourself:
    youtube.com/watch?v=tam391FwqH...

    It is also somewhere on the ABC website, but I don’t have time to look for it. THREE MINUTES!

    : ) P

  50. CAG wrote:

    Here’s my wish list:
    I want Jack to find out Claire is his sister

    I want to see Kate and Juliet to have a cat fight in the mud

    I want Locke’s actions to be validated.

    I want the Red Wings to win the cup!

    Oh, I want to copy off CAG…and add the Pistons. Deeeeeetroit baaaaskett baaaaaaall!!

  51. Okay, that’s the second time Dan used his trusty notebook to “learn” something about what’s going on….dude’s been here before…and by here I mean place and time.

  52. WOWZER! The O6 on a plane! Whoo hoo!

    : ) P

  53. Okay my anticipation to this new ep is *Killing* me… but alas…

    I think the body in the coffin may be some one we have not yet met that maybe only Jack know (like some one on the freighter, Others at the temple, kids on the flight) that Kate never particularly feels close on island so doesn’t feel obliged to go to the funeral or something along those lines.

  54. sayid is gonna save the day!!!!!

  55. Fantastic!

  56. IT is 10:22 and we already have SO many answers!

    : ) P

  57. Ok….CHARLIE died for NOTHING!!!!

  58. Kathy wrote:

    Okay my anticipation to this new ep is *Killing* me… but alas…

    I think the body in the coffin may be some one we have not yet met that maybe only Jack know (like some one on the freighter, Others at the temple, kids on the flight) that Kate never particularly feels close on island so doesn’t feel obliged to go to the funeral or something along those lines.

    I meant….

    “…only Jack knows…”

    “…and Kate never particularly feels close too while on-island…”

  59. The cracker scene is almost as good as the candy bar scene.

  60. thats what im talking about, Sun!!!!

  61. Hammer wrote:

    The cracker scene is almost as good as the candy bar scene.

    +_+_+_+_+_+

    yeah.

  62. GO SUN! Kick some Daddy tooshie!

    LOL

    : ) P

    ps - Hammer, I agree with the cracker thought *G*

  63. Damn it…teasing me with the whispers.

  64. Too many COMMERCIALS!

    P

  65. “son of a bitch”!!!

  66. Fantastic!!!

  67. claire!!!

  68. Okay, if Jin = dead and Jin + extras = boat, and Keamy has a pulse monitor then Keamy dying = boat explosion. No?

    How does Sun get off the freighter?

  69. Tasha wrote:

    Ok….CHARLIE died for NOTHING!!!!

    Not so quick!

  70. Wow so Claire’s mom has no idea that is her grandson….that’s pretty sad. She was in a coma then lost her daughter…she has a right to know!!!!

  71. Tasha wrote:

    Wow so Claire’s mom has no idea that is her grandson….that’s pretty sad. She was in a coma then lost her daughter…she has a right to know!!!!

    +_+_+_+_+_

    I’m sure Jack thinks that as well. Hard struggle there.

  72. Wow! Intense! I thought there were going to be whispers Hammer, sorry it didn’t turn out to be the right kind! Looks like the next ep in 2 weeks will be a cliff hanger for sure!
    Too bad we didn’t get any tot FBs, but we DID get to see (sort of ) the orchid station (also the temple??).

  73. LOL Hammer… you were being thought of during the “whisper” scene!!!

    Great episode!!! I want more!!!

  74. Hammer wrote:

    Okay, if Jin = dead and Jin + extras = boat, and Keamy has a pulse monitor then Keamy dying = boat explosion. No?

    How does Sun get off the freighter?

    We’re still a long way from all six of the O6 being in one place at the same time. Sayid and Kate are captives of Mr. Eyeliner. Jack is with Sawyer somewhere else. Sun is on the freighter with Aaron. Hurley is outside the Orchid Station.

    When I saw Jin on the Zodiac, I figured that Daniel would freak out and not want to take it back to the island again and that Jin would step in and do it and that is how he would end up separated from Sun. But obviously everything is still up for grabs.

    : ) P

  75. Hammer wrote:

    KillerR wrote:

    It feels like they’re throwing us curveballs to take our minds off the 95 mph heater coming down the middle. You can bet the Kansas City Shuffle is coming and when it does we’ll all be caught off guard.

    Yep, seems rather obvious that it’s Michael…but I’m hoping it’s the curve.

    ++++++++++++
    And there is your possible curve. Good ole KJ is on the boat when it blows?…..So who’s in the coffin?

  76. Oh my LORD! Flash back, flash forwards, and the present… MAN! I can’t wait until the 2 hour. I am glad Jack found out about Clair being is sister… So she isn’t dead? She is with Jack’s dad? Or IS she dead and that is why she is with her dad?

    Maybe they move the island, the freighter finds it and Sun gets off right before the explosion which moves the island again.

    I don’t like the Oceanic 6 Lie!

  77. If Jin dies it would seem that Des dies too!! I hope that doesn’t happen without a Des/Penny reunion. I am trying to figure out how Sun is gonna get off that boat as well. Maybe she decides to use a tube or something and the helicopter flies over and sees her. Still I don’t think it’s actually gonna blow cause like I said….what happens to Desmond?