Just testing.

One thing has bugged me since Season One. In S1E5 White Rabbit - A passenger drowns - “Joanna Miller”. Charlie can’t help her. Boone fails. Jack swims to help her and saves Boone instead, having to let Joanna drown.

We never heard anything after that about Joanna, except when they creamated her photo in the bonfire (I think). I wonder if its’ her that finally washes ashore tonight. She’d have been in the water about three months by now, but she was blonde and pretty (like Jack likes) when she went in.

Otherwise, we have Greta and Bonnie from the Looking Glass, and Regina from the freighter, still to be accounted for after their adventures in Davy Jones’ locker. (aarrggh).

All speculation on my part - as I remain Spoiler Free and a Preview Virgin. The Joanna drowning just happens to be way up on my LOST list of per peeves.

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Those are a few people that I was thinking it could be also Doc. Can’t wait for tonight. One question: Is a ‘per peeve’ a feline relative of a ‘pet peeve’? Sorry, couldn’t help myself. ; )

“Jack trying to I.D. a body that washed ashore”…

One thing has bugged me since Season One. In S1E5 White Rabbit - A passenger drowns - “Joanna Miller”. Charlie can’t help her. Boone fails. Jack swims to help her and saves Boone instead, having to let Joanna drown.

We never heard anything after that about Joanna, except when they creamated her photo in the bonfire (I think). I wonder if its’ her that finally washes ashore tonight. She’d have been in the water about three months by now, but she was blonde and pretty (like Jack likes) when she went in.

Otherwise, we have Greta and Bonnie from the Looking Glass, and Regina from the freighter, still to be accounted for after their adventures in Davy Jones’ locker. (aarrggh).

All speculation on my part - as I remain Spoiler Free and a Preview Virgin. The Joanna drowning just happens to be way up on my LOST list of per peeves.

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Maybe it’s Charlie, or Patchy, or maybe Jack is pulling himself out of the water! Wouldn’t that be wild?!? I’m just kidding. I’m so slap happy over three hours of fresh TV. I don’t even know what I’m saying.

PS - Think they tell us who’s in the coffin? HAHA - totally kidding!

One question: Is a ‘per peeve’ a feline relative of a ‘pet peeve’? Sorry, couldn’t help myself. ; )

No… that’s a typo. I have a big fat band-aid on the end of my left middle finger where they stitched the tip back on a few weeks ago.
(I like the the Purr Peeve idea - my dog, Vincent, decidely does not.)

In this book he foreshadowed what was gonna happen in WWII. Cities being detroyed from airstrikes. He beleived that the war would last into the 1960’s, being ended by a plague that almost destorys civilization. He also beleived that the solution to mankinds problems was a “world state”, being run by a dictatorship. This dictatorship promotes science, enforces basic English as a global language, and gets rid of religion. When this dictatorship needs to get rid of political opponents, it gives them a chance to take a poison tablet in the envronment of their choice.

Has Jack ever seen Patchy, right?

The island seems to always return what doesn’t make it out on the correct “heading”. Maybe the washed ashore body never caught the correct current. Maybe Dharma Sharks are kosher, or corn-fed. If it doesn’t have a Dharma label (or blessed by Jacob), they avoid consuming it. [;^)

[sorry if I offended, that last joke may have been out-of-line.]

Des has seen Greta & Bonnie before, but is on the freighter now. The girls were still inside the Looking Glass when Des escaped, so they are likely still there. Regina jumped ship outside of the island ‘bubble’ not too long ago (40 miles away) and probably could not drift to the island so quickly, even if she rotted away from her chains, and made it through the bubble.

That’s why I went for my “pet peeve” Joanna Miller. Her whole sequence seemed disjointed. I have always hoped that we’d get an endstory/backstory on her. It seemed out of place, but I just discounted it over the years as a “Charlie doesn’t swim well - Boone is ineffective - Jack can’t save everybody” lesson learned.

Wouldn’t Regina’s chains be drawn to the magnetic island?

Juliet, along w/ Jin, could ID Mikhail, at Camp Jack. Hurley, Des, John, Kate, Ben are at the Barracks, and not with Jack. Bea, Tom, Bonnie, Greta, Naomi and Charlie are dead and can’t ID Mikhail. Des and Sayid are off-island, Karl & Danielle are indisposed, Alex is ‘busy’ and Alpert is heading for the Temple - so they can’t ID Mikhail.

I’m sticking w/ Joanna Miller (for now).

Get back inside!!

Just testing.

Are you okay? LOL

No… that’s a typo. I have a big fat band-aid on the end of my left middle finger where they stitched the tip back on a few weeks ago.

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Gotta ask. Knife wound or attack?

Normally, chains like we saw on Regina are not magnetic. If they are they are not very magnetic at all… AND… not all magnetics attract - half the time they repel. She could be pushed away too. Personally, I think this (dead body) will be the least discussed topic 24 hours from now here at LostBlog. That’s why I brought it up so early.

It’s not Regina IMO(in the preview, the dead person is wearing white, Regina was in a dark clothes when she jumped), but THIS magnet does attract per the key around Jack’s neck and all the crap that flew at the wall when the hatch blew.

hey what up losties, im back after many weeks… Lost is Back Tonight and im ready, got all the guns loaded, and the doors barricated… GET BACK INSIDE….

Welcom back…if you haven’t been shot. :)

Are ya ready kids? Aye Aye Captain! I can’t hear yoooouuuu. Aye Aye Captain!!!

Wouldn’t Regina’s chains be drawn to the magnetic island?

Oohhhh who lives in a pineapple under the sea?
DHARMA shark square pants.

We haven’t seen him in a while.

What ever happened to Locke’s dad’s body? I remember him carrying it to him to Ben’s traveling camp, but not sure what happened after it. Could his body be the one washed ashore? Hope Nikki & Paulo’s remains stayed buried and don’t return….

He was wrapped in a dark cloth. Washed up body wearing white.

As Hurley would say, “Wo Dude!”

Hello everyone… Just wanted to say that I won’t be blogging/chatting with you until the end of the season. I’ve waited this long for Lost to come back, so I’m gonna try to see if I can hold out until 5/29 to watch all of the final 5 hours, oops, 6 hours of programming. If you see me back here before then, then you know I would have failed and will readily sign up for the next LAA meeting……….

Meetings are one hour before air time (eastern)…see you there. :)

The body was wearing white…the only thing I could think of is the doctor on the freighter. Everytime I saw him, he was wearing a white coat

That my guess…wink, wink.

It’s not Regina IMO (in the preview, the dead person is wearing white, Regina was in a dark clothes when she jumped),

Again - preview virgin here - never saw the wearing white thing…
game time in three minutes!

Hammer wrote:

It’s not Regina IMO (in the preview, the dead person is wearing white, Regina was in a dark clothes when she jumped),

Again - preview virgin here - never saw the wearing white thing…
game time in three minutes!

That’s cool, but you are chatting on the preview thread. :)

Finger a doctor injury or Purple Heart getter?

Too many FREEKIN commercials!!!!

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OMG to many already!

Manipulator met his match.

information
overload

brain
frying

ACK!

too much coming in too fast. It will take days to analyse the consequence of what we are seeing

I know, this so great. Ben gets humanized, do we dare believe he is on the good side now?

Did Ben go get Smokey/Whisperers to protect the island?

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Bruno wrote:

too much coming in too fast. It will take days to analyse the consequence of what we are seeing

I know, this so great. Ben gets humanized, do we dare believe he is on the good side now?

Did Ben go get Smokey/Whisperers to protect the island?

It still looks like Ben is on the bad guys side to me. Yes this stuff will take days to go over. I will return later.

Why can’t Charles be killed? Native of the island? Is he 4 toed and somehow got off the island but can’t find his way back?

Okay, brainstorming session in order:

Why can’t Charles be killed? Native of the island? Is he 4 toed and somehow got off the island but can’t find his way back?

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Ben can not kill Widmore. Because the island wont let him or because you can change the past/present/future.

Stupid episode

Don’t even start. :(

There was a depression in the ground where Ben was laying in the desert like he was dropped.

He seems to have teleported there.

Michael wrote:

There was a depression in the ground where Ben was laying in the desert like he was dropped.

He seems to have teleported there.

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Yeah,But when? WHen he went into the tunnel?

sector7 wrote:

Are ya ready kids? Aye Aye Captain! I can’t hear yoooouuuu. Aye Aye Captain!!!

Wouldn’t Regina’s chains be drawn to the magnetic island?

Oohhhh who lives in a pineapple under the sea?
DHARMA shark square pants.

We haven’t seen him in a while.

LOL

It appears that the title LOST has been redefined. No longer does it mean the LOST castaways, or the LOST way, but now its what has been LOST and the struggle to get it back.

deep…

Will Ben send Sayid to kill Penny?

That’s cool, but you are chatting on the preview thread.

Last time I checked it was the show thread (not preview thread) meaning “No spoilers or discussion of episode previews.”

jorge wrote:

Stupid episode

Shock and Awe - Like Ben said.
Translation for small minds… BEST LOST Episode ever.

So sayid gets off the island, gets nadia (aww, love), she dies supposedly by the dude, ben gets sayid to kill him and cons him to working for him. And now ben’s going after penny & taking des’s love away! Not fair!!!!

ok episode…

Obvious teleportation. He was cold and wearing a jacket. Wasn’t that ice on his sleeve?

Will Ben send Sayid to kill Penny?

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WHere would he be teleporting from that would be cold. He looked like he got shot. and he was in one of those jackets.

& yes he will be sending sayid

Obvious teleportation. He was cold and wearing a jacket. Wasn’t that ice on his sleeve?

Will Ben send Sayid to kill Penny?

My money is the FF at the animal hospital, when Ben says he has another name for Sayid…Penny.

So Ben is in Iraq in OCT 2005 and goes to London (either before or after that) to visit Charles Widmore to tell him he is going to kill Penelope (which we’ll assume he can accomplish at some point).

It seemed like Widmore had control of the Island way back in the Dharma era (or before?), when he told Ben it had always been “his Island”. If so, how did he lose the location of it? Could the Island have been teleported to another location off of Widmore’s “radar” ?

I knew Daniel was lying about the morse code and glad Bernard “busted” him. What’s his agenda, (or more likely) what is he going along with in deceiving Jack’s group ?

And to close for now while I lay awake thinking, Sad to see Alex meet her demise. I didn’t think they would do that and I’m sure many of us will miss her.

guess it’s pretty obvious now that Ben can move through time and space. I got the impression that Ben travelled to Tunisia, Iraq and London when he went into the cave, but he didn’t have any bruises etc. Any suggestions?

My take is that he was summoning Smokey. The traveling will happen after meeting with Jacob.

guess it’s pretty obvious now that Ben can move through time and space. I got the impression that Ben travelled to Tunisia, Iraq and London when he went into the cave, but he didn’t have any bruises etc. Any suggestions?

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The bruises were the first thing i was looking for. Thats the only thing that makes me think he didn’t travell through the tunnel at that time.

Sayids reactions when he first see him was that Ben should still be on the Isalnd.

Shooter wrote:

guess it’s pretty obvious now that Ben can move through time and space. I got the impression that Ben travelled to Tunisia, Iraq and London when he went into the cave, but he didn’t have any bruises etc. Any suggestions?

My take is that he was summoning Smokey. The traveling will happen after meeting with Jacob.

i think you’re right that he was summoning smokey

Shooter wrote:

guess it’s pretty obvious now that Ben can move through time and space. I got the impression that Ben travelled to Tunisia, Iraq and London when he went into the cave, but he didn’t have any bruises etc. Any suggestions?

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The bruises were the first thing i was looking for. Thats the only thing that makes me think he didn’t travell through the tunnel at that time.

Sayids reactions when he first see him was that Ben should still be on the Isalnd.

true forgot about that.

Has anyone tried to put together a timeline of all the flashforwards, especially now that we know they aren’t being shown in order?

Michael wrote:

Shooter wrote:

guess it’s pretty obvious now that Ben can move through time and space. I got the impression that Ben travelled to Tunisia, Iraq and London when he went into the cave, but he didn’t have any bruises etc. Any suggestions?

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The bruises were the first thing i was looking for. Thats the only thing that makes me think he didn’t travell through the tunnel at that time.

Sayids reactions when he first see him was that Ben should still be on the Isalnd.

true forgot about that.

Has anyone tried to put together a timeline of all the flashforwards, especially now that we know they aren’t being shown in order?

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I would say they showed it in order just by his appearance and how it change. it became more groomed over time.

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I would say they showed it in order just by his appearance and how it change. it became more groomed over time.

The FFs in an episode are always in order per character. I think he was asking about ALL the FFs, not just tonight’s.

And I loved watching Hurley hold that baby while he played RISK.

It’s hard to believe that Ben left his daughter out to dry like that. I mean, what kind of guy does that? He is not a good guy.

The show has evolved so much from the beginning.

Looks like Farraday is a big fat liar. So, is the doctor on the boat not dead yet on the boat but because of the “time delay/warp thing-y” he will be dead soon so that is why he is dead on the island? Hmmm…ouch my brain hurts.

Shooter wrote:

Michael wrote:

Shooter wrote:

guess it’s pretty obvious now that Ben can move through time and space. I got the impression that Ben travelled to Tunisia, Iraq and London when he went into the cave, but he didn’t have any bruises etc. Any suggestions?

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The bruises were the first thing i was looking for. Thats the only thing that makes me think he didn’t travell through the tunnel at that time.

Sayids reactions when he first see him was that Ben should still be on the Isalnd.

true forgot about that.

Has anyone tried to put together a timeline of all the flashforwards, especially now that we know they aren’t being shown in order?

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I would say they showed it in order just by his appearance and how it change. it became more groomed over time.

i agree that this episodes were in order, I was wondering if anyone has tried to sort out all the ff from the beginning of the season. After rewatching a few eps i think i’ve got it down but would like to see a “time map” to compare.

yeah ben says widimore will never find the island (so what happened to his people that found the island?). and widimore says ben will never find penny - so where’s she at??? w/ jacob? :P

My guess is that he who controls the island controls when/where it is. So until Charles gets control of the island he can’t control when/where it is.

Ben found his extra double super secret closet and it had markings/hieroglyphs like the pillar that Sawyer & Lockes dad was tied to, when Ben told John to kill the conman. Ben was all neat and clean going in to the closet, after playing the piano, but when he came out, he looked like he had just changed an engine or transmission. I don’t think he bolted for Tunisia, or anywhere else at that point.

As for plopping in the middle of Tunisia, he was like everyone else that jolts awake suddenly on the show, asleep - then eyes wide open. That has to be travel through the ‘portal’. He even got a little vomit-ty right afterward - a symptom described to Juliet before her voyage to the island.

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I think Ben thought she honestly would not die. He seemed to be in utter shock.

Locke said to Ben tonight, about Smokie, you said you didn’t know what Smokie is… Ben reaffirmed what he said before, that basically - yeah - don’t know what Smokie is - he NEVER said he did not know how to use OR summon Smokie… he has simply said (twice) he doesn’t know what Smokie is (think Quigley Down Under final scenes).

Ben found his extra double super secret closet and it had markings/hieroglyphs like the pillar that Sawyer & Lockes dad was tied to, when Ben told John to kill the conman. Ben was all neat and clean going in to the closet, after playing the piano, but when he came out, he looked like he had just changed an engine or transmission. I don’t think he bolted for Tunisia, or anywhere else at that point.

As for plopping in the middle of Tunisia, he was like everyone else that jolts awake suddenly on the show, asleep - then eyes wide open. That has to be travel through the ‘portal’. He even got a little vomit-ty right afterward - a symptom described to Juliet before her voyage to the island.

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Think the tunnel he climbed into was just that dirty.

It’s hard to believe that Ben left his daughter out to dry like that. I mean, what kind of guy does that? He is not a good

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I think Ben thought she honestly would not die. He seemed to be in utter shock.

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I see what you mean, but to even say “she’s a pawn, she means nothing to me.” How can he actually say those things? Like, really. What father does that? Ever. Even in an emergency situation. That’s awful. I think he thought he could manipulate and get his way per usual and was in shock when things didn’t go the way he planned. Because you know, he “always has a plan.”

It’s hard to believe that Ben left his daughter out to dry like that. I mean, what kind of guy does that? He is not a good

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I think Ben thought she honestly would not die. He seemed to be in utter shock.

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For sure…Ben was playing a mind game on man he researched…but this time he was wrong. It’s just the latest “game changer” that Lost is infamous for…

Locke said to Ben tonight, about Smokie, you said you didn’t know what Smokie is… Ben reaffirmed what he said before, that basically - yeah - don’t know what Smokie is - he NEVER said he did not know how to use OR summon Smokie… he has simply said (twice) he doesn’t know what Smokie is (think Quigley Down Under final scenes).

Ben found his extra double super secret closet and it had markings/hieroglyphs like the pillar that Sawyer & Lockes dad was tied to, when Ben told John to kill the conman. Ben was all neat and clean going in to the closet, after playing the piano, but when he came out, he looked like he had just changed an engine or transmission. I don’t think he bolted for Tunisia, or anywhere else at that point.

As for plopping in the middle of Tunisia, he was like everyone else that jolts awake suddenly on the show, asleep - then eyes wide open. That has to be travel through the ‘portal’. He even got a little vomit-ty right afterward - a symptom described to Juliet before her voyage to the island.

I think you’re right on.

Also, the comment Ben made to Locke that he needed him to survive…he must know that he needs Locke to “man” the island while he evacuates.

Michael wrote:

It’s hard to believe that Ben left his daughter out to dry like that. I mean, what kind of guy does that? He is not a good

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I think Ben thought she honestly would not die. He seemed to be in utter shock.

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I see what you mean, but to even say “she’s a pawn, she means nothing to me.” How can he actually say those things? Like, really. What father does that? Ever. Even in an emergency situation. That’s awful. I think he thought he could manipulate and get his way per usual and was in shock when things didn’t go the way he planned. Because you know, he “always has a plan.”

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He was totally using reverse psychology on kimmy. just didn’t work. He was trying to save her life with out giving up his own. Because he knew they would kill her any way

hmmmm

: ) P

Michael wrote:

It’s hard to believe that Ben left his daughter out to dry like that. I mean, what kind of guy does that? He is not a good

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I think Ben thought she honestly would not die. He seemed to be in utter shock.

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For sure…Ben was playing a mind game on man he researched…but this time he was wrong. It’s just the latest “game changer” that Lost is infamous for…

I thought maybe that Ben and Charles had some sort of “gentlemen’s agreement”. They’re fighting a war over this island and anyone is expendable, except they “agreed” not to make personal attacks on each other’s loved ones. That’s why Ben thought that Alex would be safe. When Keamy killed her, Ben realized that Charles had “changed the rules”.

As for Widmore vs. Linus. They came off as a couple of old world gansters/mafioso. Ben is the new punk that wants to toss the old boss. Widmore mentioned that everything Ben had was stolen, from him. We heard “changed the rules” a few times tonight. Code of honor is important, even in mobs, “honor among thieves” if you will. One old world “rule” - “you never go after a rivals’ family”… business is business - you do battle there, and family is sacred… off-limits. When Widmore (if Ben is right) whacked Alex, then he changed the rules and Penny became fair game. LChicka said that Des might not like that Penny is now a target. We saw Ben in Tunisia almost a year after the island, who is to say that Desmond is still alive, or off-island at that point?

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Because its Des and he’s awesome. But they did come of very old world. Even the car Ben pulls up in.

As for Widmore vs. Linus. They came off as a couple of old world gansters/mafioso. Ben is the new punk that wants to toss the old boss. Widmore mentioned that everything Ben had was stolen, from him. We heard “changed the rules” a few times tonight. Code of honor is important, even in mobs, “honor among thieves” if you will. One old world “rule” - “you never go after a rivals’ family”… business is business - you do battle there, and family is sacred… off-limits. When Widmore (if Ben is right) whacked Alex, then he changed the rules and Penny became fair game. LChicka said that Des might not like that Penny is now a target. We saw Ben in Tunisia almost a year after the island, who is to say that Desmond is still alive, or off-island at that point?

Spot on. The battle was being played with classic rules. Spies, plants, etc. What strikes me STILL is the “my daughter” intesity of Ben. I really think he is her real father.

how did Keamy survive Smokey?

Where did we see that Keamy survived the attack by the smoke monster?