The Other Woman
7 months ago by WillRead more: Juliet, Lost Episodes, season 4
Juliet becomes the center of attention in tonight’s episode – and just in time, as her role has been minimal thus far through the first 5 episodes – we’ll see if things spice back up between her and Jack – and if we get any more information related to what she knows about the Island. The episode description would suggest that she is coerced into doing something unwillingly…
Spoiler Warning
ABC’s Official Show Description
“Juliet receives an unwelcome visit from someone from her past and is given orders to track down Charlotte and Faraday in order to stop them from completing their mission — by any means necessary. Meanwhile, Ben offers Locke an enticing deal.”
Based on the information that has been published – this episode should provide some extremely compelling back story about the Island and Juliet’s time spent there prior to the crash of Flight 815.
Episode Preview
Here are an abundance of sneak peeks for this week’s Lost episode, The Other Woman:
Sneak Peek 1 | Sneak Peek 2 | Sneak Peek 3 | Sneak Peek 4
Comment 1, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
WOW!! I just watched the previews and WOW!! (I couldn’t help myself) Hard to believe this just keeps getting better and better!! Maybe some answers tonight.
Comment 2, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
my lord… this show is insane! The preview looked crazy!! My Lost-Sushi night finally arrived :)
Comment 3, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
Fabulous idea, rdizzle. I can’t think of a better combination that sushi and Lost!
Comment 4, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
The Detroit Chapter LAA meeting ends at 7:55 E.S.T.!!
Comment 5, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
Hammer wrote:
I think we’d better all be there!
Comment 6, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
Previews are usually deceiving, but I have a theory about the other woman already…waiting…waiting…it’s only 3:00 E.S.T. Damn!
Comment 7, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
Hammer wrote:
Already a theory? Geez man, does it involve Juliet having an affair with Goodwin, because THAT’s my theory…?
Comment 8, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
Finally, more info about Juliet and this stinkin’ island. Can’t wait.
Comment 9, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
Tina wrote:
Already a theory? Geez man, does it involve Juliet having an affair with Goodwin, because THAT’s my theory…?
No, but your’s is probabally more accurate…I was thinking she’s dead and made herself appear…dun, dun, duuuuunnn.
Comment 10, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
Hammer: Oh, that kind of theory…well it could still be true!
I think that Juliet was brought to the island for figure out the pregnancy problem and be Ben’s super secret evil genius wife, but she didn’t want to have any of it because she was falling for the devil may care & handsome Goodwin, who was supposed to be with someone else according to Ben’s super secret evil genius plan of attack. This is why Ben sent Goodwin to the tailies, to off him so he could steal Juliet’s grieving affections for himself.
Comment 11, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
Tina wrote:
Hmmmmm….
Comment 12, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
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Comment 13, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
Tina wrote:
Well anything is possible at this point, but Goodwin aside, I DO think Ben has a thing for Juliette. Can’t wait till they tell us something!!4 1/2 more hours to go!
Comment 14, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
I want to know if any of them has an evil twin?
Comment 15, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
Since Juliet’s character was introduced, I liked her. Here she looks a little scary, which thus makes me return to my original question, to trust her or not…
Comment 16, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
NikkiV wrote:
Yes I know what you mean. I really WANT to trust her, but that’s probably reason enough to NOT. Time will tell…..
Comment 17, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
This is my first post. Not as smart or kind as most of you, but I LOVE your blog. Can’t stop thinking about the show, especially since I have about a dozen people at work who also talk about it non-stop.
My first query: does everybody think Miles is still biting down on the grenade? There must have been a number of hours passing since Locke gave it to him.
Second question: If it turns out that Desmond survives his time on the freighter, does anyone else predict that he will return to the island (like in next week’s episode), and in what “new” state–whole, impaired, ill, re-energized, etc.?
Thanks for reading me.
Comment 18, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
Rita wrote:
Well anything is possible at this point, but Goodwin aside, I DO think Ben has a thing for Juliette. Can’t wait till they tell us something!!4 1/2 more hours to go!
I wonder if we’ll get an explanation of that painting in Ben’s house. Some people think it’s of Ben’s mom. I’ve always thought that it has to be Juliet because the woman is holding a mouse and when Alpert is interviewing Juliet they speak of some male field mouse she impregnated. So she must be a fertility genius!
Comment 19, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
LLOL wrote:
I’m am the self appointed and unofficial welcome committee, welcome…our
Detroit Chapter LAA meeting ends in 25 minutes.
Yes he’s likely still alive and biting the grenade.
Des will likely go back to the island, I think that knowing there are several more seasons, this is not the rescue method that gets us to the O6.
Comment 20, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
NikkiV wrote:
In the picture at the top of the page, she looks a little emaciated, if you ask me… and she kind of looks like she is sucking her cheeks in, like she just tasted something sour? LOL
24 minutes and 11 seconds until the enhanced version of The Constant. Has anyone heard if they will continue to show enhanced versions when they come back after Grey’s Anatomy? Maybe on Tuesday or Wednesday, to give us junkies a mini-fix to get us through until Thursdays at TEN pm?
: ) P
Comment 21, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
Yes!!! More whispers!!
Comment 22, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
Okay, maybe still premature, but the preview wasn’t any different. The other woman appeared and disappeared during whispers. I get the feeling she’s dead and made herself visible…
Comment 23, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
Again, maybe premature, but I’m giving myself kudos for saying that Widmore set up Des to end up on the island…assuming Ben isn’t pulling another fast one.
Comment 24, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
Okay so I live in L.A. And I haven’t seen this week’s episode yet. Can someone please tell me what happened because the suspense is KILLING ME!
Comment 25, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
Damn it…who’s on the boat?
Comment 26, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
It’s gotta be michael
Comment 27, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
I think that Goodwin’s wife disappeared during the whispers because the others control the black smoke and used it to divert Jack’s attention so she could get away.
I am also convinced that Juliet must make it off the island- I don’t see how Jack could be so happy post island if she weren’t with him. She doesn’t have to be accounted for in the Oceanic 6 since she wasn’t onboard
Also, I think it’s pretty clear Michael is on the boat as the spy for Ben.
Comment 28, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
what i don’t understand is if Charles Widmore is so concerned with getting to the island, wouldn’t he be ALL FOR penny talking to des? i mean, he of all people would both know stuff about the island and have a reason to kiss Widmore’s ass….seems like an important asset so why wouldn’t he freighter pick up penny’s call and try to reunite she and des?
also, i don’t want to be this person, but i’m going to be, i didn’t like this episode. i kept waiting for something big to happen and then was let down…oh well, guess they can’t all be like the constant!
Comment 29, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
why do you all think Michael is Ben’s spy?
Comment 30, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
Hammer wrote:
her name is Harper. I did not hear the whispers when she arrived… but they were in full force when she slipped away.
Comment 31, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
I think many feel it’s Micheal because there are few options for who could be “brought back” as the promo says. In addition, the actor that plays Micheal has been back in the credits this season. Anything is possible though.
Comment 32, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
Lostie wrote:
But why would Locke have to “sit down” to hear it is Michael on the boat? Maybe it is Locke’s father? Or Boone!? Or Ana-Lucia - they mentioned her in the episode. Okay, I am grasping at straws, here, I know. But after all, the only thing that is definite about this show is that nothing is at it appears to be.
Great episode. Love Elizabeth Mitchell. And Rebecca Mader is definitely growing on me.
: ) P
Comment 33, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
I think it’s interesting that Harper says that Juliet looks just like “her” and implies that Juliet looks like Bens wife/girlfriend/something?.
And in the episodes when Jack was being held captive to fix Ben’s back, Ben says that Juliet looks like Jack’s ex-wife.
Coincidence? I think not. What do you think that means?
Comment 34, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
LostNaked wrote:
Ben gave Michael the bearing to leave on in the boat. Michael did Ben’s bidding when he told him to kill Ana-Lucia and Libby, Michael led 4 Losties “on the list” to the pier to be taken captive by Ben. Michael is Ben’s beyotch… tho it could still be the yet seen - Regina.
Comment 35, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
katesFriend wrote:
Comment 36, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
Crap!
This episode was Wild. I get too excited. I keep going back and forth about the people on the boat. are they good? Are they bad? Now, we know Penny and her daddy are going after the same thing. but for different reasons. What’s daddy’s reason?
I wondered why the others just disappeared. Where the hell are they? Since there is a time warp situation going on as evidenced by last week’s episode, do you think the others are back in regular time? Or is there another island in regular-non time warp time?
Also, did anyone hear when Goodwin’s wife said “you look like her” who is “Her”? Could it be Ben’s mom? I forget what she looked like,lol. And I really want to go out and get the previous seasons so I can see when Goodwin died. I don’t recall him much, but I need to know more!!
AHHH! LOST I love it!
Comment 37, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
RE: Michael, the last promo clip when it showed Sayid and Des meeting someone looked like a man with an afro. The man has to be Michael. Didn’t they say something about being reunited too?
Comment 38, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
DocH wrote:
her name is Harper. I did not hear the whispers when she arrived… but they were in full force when she slipped away.
Oh they were they when she arrived.
Comment 39, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
DocH wrote:
Ben gave Michael the bearing to leave on in the boat. Michael did Ben’s bidding when he told him to kill Ana-Lucia and Libby, Michael led 4 Losties “on the list” to the pier to be taken captive by Ben. Michael is Ben’s beyotch… tho it could still be the yet seen - Regina.
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How about Paulo (?-the guy Nikki was with). He got bitten by the spider and burried, but wasn’t dead. And- we saw the dog digging around the grave. He could be the man on the boat- and there would be a reason why he was on the show in the first place.
Comment 40, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
It felt like “high school musical” with the Ben-Juliet-Goodwin-Harper love quadrangle.
Or any episode of “Friends”. Ben came off as Ross, Juliet was Rachel, Harper was Monica, Goodwin was Chandler, Jack was Joey and Kate was Phoebe. I can hear it now “but we were on a break!”
Comment 41, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
Tina wrote:
Um….good guess :)
Comment 42, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
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How about Paulo (?-the guy Nikki was with). He got bitten by the spider and burried, but wasn’t dead. And- we saw the dog digging around the grave. He could be the man on the boat- and there would be a reason why he was on the show in the first place.
I could see that theory. That episode with them and the spiders was so random, it could come up again. Didn’t the others supposedly go to the “temple”…where are they???
Comment 43, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
i remember goodwin and ethan.. ethan was creepy … and i remember the scene when he was axed .. but who did it? was it sawyer? it wasn’t jack, was it?? oh gawd .. that would be a twist, wouldn’t it?
Comment 44, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
i remember goodwin and ethan.. ethan was creepy … and i remember the scene when he was axed .. but who did it? was it sawyer? it wasn’t jack, was it?? oh gawd .. that would be a twist, wouldn’t it?
Comment 45, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
i remember goodwin and ethan.. ethan was creepy … and i remember the scene when he was axed .. but who did it? was it sawyer? it wasn’t jack, was it?? oh gawd .. that would be a twist, wouldn’t it?
Comment 46, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
RAY wrote:
My take is that Harper was talking about Ben’s mother when she told Juliet she looked like “her”, hence Ben’s crush on her.
I’m glad they finally showed this “history” that Ben & Juliet have, which Tom referred to back in early season 3.
Comment 47, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
Miraks wrote:
Miraks wrote:
Nikki was the one that was still kickin’. Paolo was “dead” hours longer than she. She had the half waking moment as the Losties were pumping sand onto her mug. And if I were Vincent, I’d be sniffing me up some Nikki, not Paolo.
Comment 48, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
lust4lost wrote:
As I remember it, it was Ana Lucia.
Comment 49, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
Okay, so when they “replayed” Juliet’s flashback to the scene where Ben tells Goodwin to go to the beach and pretend to be a survivor, was it the SAME scene as when it first aired? Did they infuse Harper into the scene? Did they re-shoot it? It was very accurate to my recollection, but who out there has the DVD’s and can watch the first time we saw that flashback?
: ) P
Comment 50, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
Is the person on the boat being Michael a bit obvious?
My wife thinks BEN is on the boat. He’s working the time travel thingie so he’s in both places at once. Now that would be mind-blowing and something Lost would pull.
Comment 51, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
Comment 52, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
I think that Ben’s man on the boat is Kelvin from the Swan. Also, i’ve said before that the whole “Dez is a coward” plays a really big role. Just haven’t figured it all out yet. But I certainly didn’t like this episode very much. Maybe i’m getting spoiled!
Comment 53, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
In terms of who Juliet looks like… Remember (I believe it was Ben) who said that Juliet was picked to talk to Jack because she looked like Jack’s wife Sarah!
Comment 54, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
achtungpv wrote:
Could also explain the “bad brother”/”evil twin” references.
Comment 55, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
DocH wrote:
That girl, Annie, had reddish-brown hair. I think Juliet looks a lot like Ben’s mother.
Comment 56, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
lust4lost wrote:
Hammer wrote:
Ana Lucia whacked Goodwin. They went up the hillside to recon the area. Ana challenged him, he revealed, they rolled down the slope, he dove at her and she raised her walking stick just in time - she Shish-kabobed him.
Ethan got the Charlie treatment… Ethan came after Claire. Jack attacked Ethan and lost his gun in a fist fight. Jack put a severe beating on Ethan. After Jack stepped away Sawyer stepped in to interrogate Ethan for answers. Charlie then stepped in, picked up Jacks gun, shot at Ethan 6 times, hitting him in the chest 5 times.
Comment 57, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
but ben would only have pictures to remember his mother by … she died at childbirth … and they had cameras on the island?? this is a stretch
Comment 58, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
I’ll admit the obsession with the whispers:
It struck me odd that Harper said that Ben sent her, when in the hell did Ben get a chance to talk to her? Oh wait, I know, when he spoke to smokey/whisperers. How would Harper know that Ben is right where he wants to be since she hasn’t had a chance to see him? Oh wait, I know, when Ben spoke to smokey/whisperers.
Futherererer, smokey/whisperers appear to people as someone that would effect them emotionally…anyone?
Comment 59, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
and Ben’s dad HATED Ben and greived the loss of his wife. I doubt he would have allowed pictures of her in the house…too painful
Comment 60, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
lust4lost wrote:
Maybe he went back in time to see her….?
Comment 61, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
So what’s everyone’s vote:
-Harper herself really appeared to Juliet
-Harper was a manifestation of Smokey.
I think it was a manifestation of smokey, between the whispers and the sudden disappearance. Not to mention the fact that Ben has been locked up so how exactly would he talk to Harper or any of the Others?
Comment 62, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
smokey/whispers is jacob
Comment 63, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
Toeknee wrote:
And Juliet has jet-black eyebrows. Women are tricking. And you don’t nned the identical same hair color to remind another person (facially/emotionally) of another. I take license.
Comment 64, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
RAY wrote:
Maybe he went back in time to see her….?
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Ben DID have a picture of her - we saw it in his FB episode. And he saw her (i.e., smokey) in that same episode. He knows what she looked like. Presumably “the therapist” would know that also, and would know Ben’s issues with missing his mother.
Comment 65, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
I thought that Ben saw her mother in the woods in a previous season when he was younger and ran away from the dharma intiative camp?
Comment 66, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
Toeknee wrote:
Guess your picking up what I’m laying down eh?
Comment 67, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
DocH wrote:
And Juliet has jet-black eyebrows. Women are tricking. And you don’t nned the identical same hair color to remind another person (facially/emotionally) of another. I take license.
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Well as Laura* pointed out a few comments back, D&C have already used the “Juliet looks like Sarah” card, so to me it’s obvious they’re now using the “Juliet looks like Ben’s mom” card.
Comment 68, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
Hammer wrote:
LOL I was typing mine as you were typing yours apparently. Great minds and all that…..
Comment 69, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
Harper was not really Harper. Ben/Jacob can manifest himself into other ppl. Think of all the dead ppl that have appeared to the ppl on and off the island. Ben is the one on the freighter, he is just appearing as someone else to everyone.
Comment 70, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
Some belly slapping humor tonight too.
Locke brings Ben a meal:
Ben: “Rabbit, John?”
Locke: “We’re running low on chickens”,
Ben: (under his breath) “I hope this one didn’t have a number on it.”
Comment 71, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
Toeknee wrote:
The whispers gave it away. Harper wasn’t “really” there. I guess smokey really can manifest itself in human form.
Comment 72, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
how did Locke, Swayer and the rest get to the houses??? weren’t they on a smaller island off the main Island.
Comment 73, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
maybe i misheard, someone w/ tivo check maybe for me, but i thought harper said ben is “whoever he wants to be” not “wherever he wants to be”
would make sense, juliet said ben is a prisoner, harper says he is whoever he wants to be, and adds a little mystery. anyone know?
Comment 74, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
and it tastes like chicken
Comment 75, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
achtungpv wrote:
I don’t know about that…supposedly the time travelling thing is a person’s consciousness travelling to that person’s own body at a different time. People’s bodies aren’t travelling. Otherwise there are two Ben’s, which would be a paradox, which D&C have said they are averse to.
Further, I’d be very very VERY disappointed if the rest of the show turns into a series of voluntary time travelling by certain characters so they can obtain whatever they need whenever they need it.
Comment 76, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
Toeknee wrote:
The whispers gave it away. Harper wasn’t “really” there. I guess smokey really can manifest itself in human form.
Comment 77, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
Hammer wrote:
Hammer I missed this comment of yours too - sorry.
I agree that it wasn’t really Harper, that it as smokey, which presumably means she’s dead as you said. But, wouldn’t Juliet know that she was dead? Unless she just died in the last few days. (I’m assuming that if Harper died before Alex left the Others, Alex would know, and it would be big enough news that Alex would tell Juliet, say during their trek to the radio tower back in the season 3 finale, which took place just a few days prior to this episode’s events).
Comment 78, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
katesFriend wrote:
Neither:
Juliet “How can Ben possibley know where they are when he’s a prisoner?”
Harper “Ben is exactly where he wants to be.”
Comment 79, posted 7 months ago - Quote and reply
katesFriend wrote:
I’m pretty sure she said “where he wants to be”…this ties into Locke’s conversation with Ben, when Ben says “I always have a plan”. You can see how easily he manipulated Locke into freeing him. “See you guys at dinner” I was cracking up at that.
BTW, katesfriend, I can understand your earlier comment about not liking this episode. I did like it, but felt it was a little lacking in spots (like the whole idea of this Harper character seemed kind of forced to me), so it definitely didn’t seem as good as last week’s episode. But I’d still put it above Eggtown.
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