The Man from Tallahassee
1 year, 6 months ago by AndreasRead more: Locke, Lost Episodes
Lost has really been gearing up lately, delivering great episodes each week. I don’t know when I was this excited to see an upcoming episode… alright, it was last week, but with the ending of last week’s Lost episode “Par Avion” things are really starting to get interesting.
Kate, Locke, Sayid and Rousseau have traveled to “The Barracks” to save Jack and Rousseau’s kidnapped daughter Alex. But apparently Jack has been better off than they thought, because in the last shot of last week’s Lost episode, he was smiling and playing football with The Others.
In tonight’s Locke centric Lost Season 3 episode, we will find out why Jack is in such a good mood.
This is ABC’s official description of “The Man from Tallahassee“:
Warning - Spoilers!
“The Man from Tallahassee” - Ben tries to persuade a determined Locke to call off his destructive plan by offering him some of the secrets of the island, and Kate’s reunion with Jack does not go off as planned when she discovers that he has made a deal with “The Others,” on “Lost,” WEDNESDAY, MARCH 21 (10:00-11:00 p.m., ET), on the ABC Television Network.
Regulars know the drill by now - feel free to comment and discuss the episode in the comments but make sure to have read all the comments before adding your own and don’t repeat things that have already been said. Have fun!
Comment 1, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
Although the episode has not aired yet (half hour away) we are already sure that Jack is going to be allowed to go home (off the island). However, didn’t we learn that no one can leave the island anymore ever since the light in the sky incident?
Comment 2, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
Is it too early to crow about Alex’s paternity?
Comment 3, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
this episode is AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment 4, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
poor locke :’(
Comment 5, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
Very interesting developments. I can’t wait for the next one.
Comment 6, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
Who exactly is the “Man from Tallahassee” that Ben summoned? Is it Locke’s father? Did BEN summon Locke’s dad into that box, and try and convince Locke that HE summoned him? Or is the “Man from Tallahassee” someone else?
Comment 7, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
So we’ve been watching “Sphere” this whole time?
Comment 8, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
Aaaaaaahhhhhhhhh! *head explodes*
Okay, I’m convinced now more than ever that Locke’s dad is the guy Sawyer is looking for. I’m guessing Locke’s dad is the man from Tallahassee, and I’m now wondering what significance that could have.
Love the imagery of Locke opening another “hatch” when he boarded the sub.
Ben is manipulating everyone, so did the island really heal Locke and bring his dad there or is it all part of Ben’s elaborate plot? Can’t wait for next week!
Comment 9, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
Methinks Locke should borrow a page from another legendary TV character. Remember the Seinfeld episode where George decides that every decision he has ever made has been wrong, and then decides to do the opposite of whatever should occur to him? For the love of God, man…dig REALLY deep next time.
Comment 10, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
I was thinking the man was somebody else. Now after reading the comments, I guess his dad was from Tallahassee? I am a little confused but I feel really bad for Locke. His life sucked!
They showed a guy twice in this episode that I thought was Micheal. I didn’t record it but did anyone put it in slow motion to see? One charged at Kate. The other was the one that Ben told to get the guy from Tallahassee. I might be off here.
Comment 11, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
OK, that was my favorite episode this season!! Wasn’t the guy who uncuffed Locke at the end the same guy who recruited Juliet to the island?
Comment 12, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
yeah, that was the guy that recruited juliette…. what a geat episode!!!!!
Comment 13, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
I wonder who was going to pilot the submarine to take Juliet and Jack home. SOMEbody had to pilot it- and I wonder who it was going to be, and if that person knew that it couldn’t return (or could it??)
Comment 14, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
so, does anyone think that we (and locke) could be just seeing another manifestation of the smoke monster? i mean, it kind of seems to show whatever they’re thinking about or want the most (eko and his brother, hurley and dave, jack and christian) and ben kept bringing up locke’s dad in asking him about being in a wheelchair… is this just another way for ben to manipulate the situation??? (since alex seems pretty sure that ben likes to do that) … speaking of alex, way to go for her finding out about her mother!
Comment 15, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
So can someone clarify this? Is the submarine the only way off and on the island? I thought they had a boat? Well they did, but can you leave by boat?? Or airplane?? Because don’t airplanes come by and drop off food? Wouldn’t that be connection to the outside world?
Comment 16, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
im pretty sure when desmond turned the key it threw every thing off such as the boat but some how the submarine is still able to get off
Comment 17, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
Locke’s connection to the Island (and Smokey the Monster)enables him to walk and get answers from it when he wants. That’s what make me thinks a definite “God”/”spiritual” connection exists. I think Smokey is like the Holy Spirit (or maybe an “angel”) and while it showed others death and destruction and darkness, it showed Locke “a beautiful light”.
The first shall be last and the last first. Locke, I’d say, has been “last” for a long time, even though he has a good heart.
Comment 18, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
I think you might be right about the guy Sawyer is looking for might be the same guy as Locke’s father. This episode was unbelievable. My jaw dropped when he opened the box. I don’t know what I am going to do until next week. Did anyone see the previews for next week? Did Sun hit Sawyer?
Comment 19, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
can someone clarify… is lockes dad “the man from tallahassee?”
Comment 20, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
…and i don’t recall, who is sawyer looking for? I suppose i should brush up!
Comment 21, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
Well all I was thinking during Ben’s box talk was “Step 1. Put a hole in the box”… I agree that Locke’s con-man dad is connected to Sawyer — perhaps that is even Sawyer’s real dad. Where do we think Rousseau went off to when she left Kate, Sayid, and Locke — and how come she didn’t say hello to her daughter when she saw her all alone in the jungle? And HOW do they develop photos on the island — Ben had so many of Alex as a child!
Comment 22, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
Someone kill Charlie, he is annoying and Locke should kill his father. I guess I’d like to see more killing. I’d love it if the show took a turn to a more ‘Lord of the flies’ type show.
Comment 23, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
All Ben said was “Get me the Man from Tallahassee” — and next we see the dude from Mittelos Bioscience, and then we are shown Locke’s dad. So either the man from tallahassee is Locke’s dad, which seems more obvious — or maybe it could be that Mittelos Bioscience guy — who was in FL in Juliet’s flashback, so perhaps could be from Tallahassee? This could be a bit far-fetched. Anyway, that guy looked so creepy in his Other garb — and it seemed like Ben was comfortable talking in front of him about his role and relationship with the Others as a leader and how “he would have been ruined” either way — in front of him.
Comment 24, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
i think idgetlsot is probably on the right page. I think the mittelos guy is “the man for Tallahassee.” And ben’s comfort with him, seems unlike the way ben has acted around anyone else. Im thinking this guy is not only “the man from tallahassee,” but also maybe “jacob.” what do you guys think?
Comment 25, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
Davis wrote:
I’m not sure what you’re getting at - I think we knew Ben was Alex’s “father”, but some people claim that he’s her biological father. I think he’s simply her adopted father, as many here have stated - they stole her from Rousseau and he raised her.
carebare wrote:
That’s what I was trying to figure out. At first I thought it was just a vision due to Smokey, and Ben controls Smokey and this box is where it is kept. But after thinking about it a little more, I believe Locke’s dad is really there, and he is “the Man from Tallahassee”. Remember, Ben told “Richard” to get “the Man from Tallahasse”, and Richard is the guy who recruited Juliet, and ends up unlocking the door where Locke’s dad is kept. So this is part of Ben’s manipulation of John, but for what purpose? And when exactly did they capture him and bring him to the island? Before the crash? After Ben escaped from the Losties and had learned more about Locke? Did Ben know Locke would come to the Others’ camp, so he was keeping his dad there for whenever the occasion arose? Does this tie into Ben’s original trip to the Losties’ part of the island? As usual, a few questions were answered, but many more were raised. Great stuff!
Comment 26, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
Locke and the manifestation of his father remind me of Jack and those episodes where he would see his own father walking around.
Could it be Locke’s father isn’t really there and Ben is somehow making him see things.
Comment 27, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
Is anyone else scratching their head about the location of the submarine? I thought the barracks was in the middle of the island and surrounded by those deadly soundwave poles.
Comment 28, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
Another issue….Ben told Jack he would release Sayid and Kate when Jack leaves the island. So now that there’s apparently no way off the island, they are presumably prisoners, indefinitely. And what is Jack’s and Juliet’s status? They were just biding their time until they could get on the sub and go home. Now what? Are they prisoners too? Who’s going to rescue them all? Rousseau? Alex?
Comment 29, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!
That episode was *perfect*! It had a little bit of everything that I’ve come to love about Lost.
Terry O’Quinn is extremely talented; this episode really displayed his range of acting skills.
I’m in agreement that The Man From Tallahassee is Locke’s dad, and connecting him to the man Sawyer has been searching for makes great sense. I like that theory a lot; it adds another character connection.
I briefly considered that perhaps it wasn’t actually his dad, that it was an apparition, but I think it’s much more dramatic and meaningful for the show to make it the actual person.
There was a lot of important information about the island that was divulged, I can’t wait to watch it again and dig into the dialog.
I think the men who were gaurding Jack’s house are somehow involved with piloting the submarine, they were the ones walking Jack and Juliet there when they caught Locke. They appeared to be very “military”…
Sayid spilling the beans to Alex about her mom was another brilliantly acted scene. Sometimes Sayid suffers from a bit of over-acting, but tonight was spot-on.
Lost is on a major upswing since it’s return from the break and this season is shaping up to be the best one yet, - if they can keep producing qualitty episodes like the past 5 or so.
Anyway, I’m done talking, I’m looking forward to reading the comments that should start pouring in soon.
Comment 30, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
thedude wrote:
Yeah, that really bugged me. It’s a major flaw in the story/plot, but I’ll let it slide because the rest of the episode was perfect.
Comment 31, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
I agree that Ben is not Alex’s biological father. Just the guy who got dibs on raising her after they took her from Rousseau. It’s not like these people don’t have a history of stealing children, after all.
I also agree that Locke’s dad is probably TMFT. I’m wondering, though, if he’s been living on the island for a while, unaware of the Others. He could’ve gotten there somehow shortly after knocking Locke out of the window (the cops did say he’d disappeared, after all). He just looked terrified, and a little beat up, when they opened that door (which, by the way, I totally called before it happened, but still enjoyed the reveal). This makes me think that he’s been living, watched by the Others, and when Ben said to “get” him, some people went to capture him and bring him in.
I hadn’t thought about the barracks being in the middle of nowhere with a random submarine dock right there. That is, um, odd, but I wouldn’t call it a MAJOR flaw in the plot. Just a continuity error. YMMV.
Comment 32, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
Wasn’t Juliette a fertitlity specialist of sorts? I am beginning to believe the Others were/are infertile; that may be why they kidnapped the children. Why Alex may not be “related” to Ben…Anyone have any thoughts on that?
Comment 33, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
Mikhail mentioned a powerful guy who was the boss, apparently over Ben, when he was talking about the list and their flaws, etc. Anyone think Locke’s dad could be the guy in charge of the island. I mean, it’s pretty mean to dupe Locke a second time with the prisoner act, but it seems about right when you think about his life so far. That’s way farfetched, but I thought about it when they showed him in the box.
And yeah, methinks regardless of his dad’s role that his dad is in fact the man from Tallahassee.
Anyone else wonder why Kate didn’t scream, “What is going on here? Who are these people?” at Jack when they were in the billiards room? He seemed to know something that put him at ease. And it had to be something beyond the fact that he was getting off the island. It’s not like you can catch a sub home and come back with the Navy SEALS within a few days.
The magic box and the smoke need to be explained to me…
Comment 34, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
Didn’t Locke’s dad work for Hanso or something at one time?? Or was that from the Lost experience?
Comment 35, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
Tasha wrote:
I recall a website (maybe it was www.hansocareers.com ?) that was deemed a hoax that included a picture of Lockes dad on “the board of directors.” This was all during the end of Season 2/the beginning of The Lost Experience
Comment 36, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
FMGreenSteve wrote:
I recall a website (maybe it was www.hansocareers.com ?) that was deemed a hoax that included a picture of Lockes dad on “the board of directors.” This was all during the end of Season 2/the beginning of The Lost Experience
Drrr…or maybe I’m thinking about Penny’s father.
Comment 37, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
Waitaminute wrote:
This is a good idea, but I don’t think Locke’s dad is the Big Boss. It seems like whatever’s been going on there has been going on longer than Locke’s dad would’ve been there. I could be wrong about that, but with Ben having lived there his whole life and all of that, that seems to put a crimp in the timeline. Of course, what is time to the folks on Lost, anyway?
But aside from that, I’m not sure that the Big Boss would come running whenever Ben wanted him, anyway. I’m guessing the Big Boss, whoever he is, might actually have a pretty big bone to pick with Ben. Remember when Jack first started doing the surgery on Ben? Tom or Danny (I forget which) mumbled something about Jack not being on Jacob’s list at all. If Ben made his own list to serve his own purposes and didn’t do what the Big Boss wanted, I think he might be in some trouble.
I could be way off with all of this, but I’m just thinking out loud here.
Comment 38, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
I don’t think anyone has yet mentioned the fact that Ben’s refrigerator was filled with Dharma food products. This again brings up the question of the food drops and why Dharma is still dropping food regularly if in fact they were separate from the Others and have been “purged” from the island.
Comment 39, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
Locke, I am your father. Does anyone see the significance of John Locks and the 17th century philosopher of the same name?
Comment 40, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
The guy from Mittelos Bioscience name is Dr. Richard Alpert, when ben said, “Richard, get me the man from tallahassee” He was talking to the man from from Mittelos Bioscience. Then we see Ben, Locke and the guy that recruited Juliet (aka Dr. Richard Alpert) open the door to Lockes father (aka the Man from Tallahassee.)Hopefully that clears it up. BTW, great episode can’t wait for next week. Also Dr. Richard Alpert shares the name of a Doctor who was kick out of Harvard along with Timothy Leary because of research on LSD, intresting tidbit.
Comment 41, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
kicked out
Comment 42, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
thedude wrote:
There’s an underwater passage that leads to a lake in the middle of the island. Either that or the island subway system that’s alluded to in Sayid’s map.
Comment 43, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
Has anyone noticed that Mittelos is an anagram for “lost time”? Lost Time Bioscience makes a lot of sense given the above theory.
Comment 44, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
Anon wrote:
There’s an underwater passage that leads to a lake in the middle of the island. Either that or the island subway system that’s alluded to in Sayid’s map.
Not the latter. Alex and John walk through the jungle to the dock. Not necessary to use any subway.
Comment 45, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
“Lost” is a remake of the 1940’s Frank Capra film, “Lost Horizon” as you can see even the name is similar. The film is also about a plane crash and a secluded civilization. The island serves as a shangri-la for the inhabitants. I strongly suggest you go find this movie and you will know how lost ends and what it is all about. or i could tell you. Locke will leave the island and be crippled again. Jack will also try to leave but he sees that he doesn’t belong in the real world and attempts to return to the island and eventually find it after seven years. It teaches a lesson to find a place where you are trully happy. another spoiler is that, have you notice nobody has needed a haircut? thats because everybody has a lifespan of 200 years and dont really change. Its all based on the movie “Lost Horizon”. I just thought I might share this with the world.
Comment 46, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
Erick Holguin wrote:
Thanks for the tip! Sounds VERY interesting!!
Overall this was a GREAT episode!!!
Comment 47, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
Excellent! Anyone else think that Ben might be interested in the Losties because they seem to be able to “think outside the box”? (Horse, cat, Dave, Locke’s lack of paralysis - none of the Losties have been in the box yet, right? Also, Ben kept referring to “my people” and it appears there is a power struggle going on inside of the Hostile society. Ben needed to have the sub blown to bits to…. keep Jacob from coming back to the island, keep Jack and Juliet from leaving……I recall from TLE that food drops continue into perpetuity, automatically right? So now we have no way off the island and the communications station is blown up and they have a pandora’s box of sorts. I am loving this season, it just keeps getting better and better! I am sure there is plenty we missed, cannot wait to watch it again tonight!
Comment 48, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
I know this is not really relevant to the story, but I was wondering if I’m the only one giggling whenever the guy from Mittelos appear on screen (he is Batmanoel, from The Tick :P)…
On a more serious note, I think is pretty clear that he is NOT the man from Talahasse, because if you watch carefully, when Ben says to summon him, the person he is talking to is Batmanoel ^^ (pay attention to the voice and dark hair).
Comment 49, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
“The Anomaly”. This is a really minor thing I picked up on, but it woke me up at 3am (…yes, I need to get a life). At some point last night Ben mentions that “the anomaly” wiped out communications with the outside world. Didn’t the 2 Russian guys in the Arctic call it an “anomaly” as well at the end of LTDA when they called Penny and said they’d “found him”? Could there be some connection between our Russian Patchy, Ben, and the Arctic guys?….and possibly Penny? OK, it’s a long shot.
Comment 50, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
Also, Ben says to John:
“I can show you things, things I know you want to see very badly”. And procedes talking about “the box”…
I think this is the key to the everything… “the box” or the island itself is able to manifest (in physical or ethereal form) people’s deepest desires, BUT, at a price.
The price being repentance.
But, in John’s case, the island or “the box” has gone even further, giving him the hability to walk again, and that’s because he already was pure of heart.
And last, but not least, the price John will have to pay is to NOT give in to the desire to kill his father, or else, John will share Eko’s fate…
Well, I hope that made any sense :D
Comment 51, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
Fluca wrote:
No, you’re not the only one. I loved the live-action Tick (have it on DVD) and that was the first thing I said when I saw Nestor Carbonnel’s name in the credits during Juliette’s flashback eppy — “Hey, it’s Batmanuel!” BTW - I’m pretty sure he was in the room with Tom and Ben when Locke was in the closet — I’m pretty sure it’s the Mittelos guy (Batmanuel!) who Ben asks to go get The Man from Tallehassee, which I can only assume is Locke’s father.
Comment 52, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
OK my bad about thinking that Richard was the Man from Tallahassee — I guess I just have watched one too many LOSTs and am wary of taking things for face-value and assuming the obvious (or rational). Thanks for clearing that up. And definitely the anomaly that Ben was talking about was the same kind of lingo those guys in tha Arctic were using. So now that the sub is blown up (unless there is some other sub or kind of transportation still on the island) it is up to Michael or Walt to save the Losties — or Penny Widmore?
Comment 53, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
Was Locke’s dad wearing the same clothes in the “box” that we saw him wearing right before he pushed Locke through the window?
Comment 54, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
Great episode and some great comments guys!
In my view “The Man from Tallahassee” is Locke’s “father”, and most probably also the real Sawyer.
Cool to see Richard Alpert on the island. When I see him I think of Nestor’s role as the photographer in “Suddenly Susan” haha =)
Comment 55, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
What is the story with Jack’s new tattoo? I am assumning it must serve some level of importance.
And why if the button had such a major importance to all forms of communication, and transportation on the island, would the others have allowed Dharma and the Losties to cotrol that station?
Lastly, if the anomoly wiped out everythong around the island, anyone else think Michael and Walt are out there floating around in circles?
Comment 56, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
Okay, so if Locke’s father is the real Sawyer (which seems more and more likely) the Others now have the power to manipulate both Locke and Sawyer as I assume they know Sawyer’s whole history as well. Interesting….
Comment 57, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
thedude wrote:
Take a look at the map. I have a feeling that that subterranean passage in the upper left could be how the sub gains access to the barracks. There’s plenty of room there for a small body of water.
Map:
humpys.net/view_pic.php?id=324...
Comment 58, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
scottc13 wrote:
That’s an interesting question/point.
I have no idea why they would continue to let Desmond, and then the losties, continue to control that station. It’s possible that not even they knew what would happen if the button didn’t get pushed.
Pushing the button…man, that seems like AGES ago!
Comment 59, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
scottc13: In their latest podcast, Damon and Carlton mention that the Others didn’t know about the button-pushing routine in the Swan station until the Losties became involved. The Dharmites considered this a very important task and only let out info on a need-to-know basis.
I think we’re beginning to see that the Others/Hostiles don’t know everything about the island.
Comment 60, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
Umbrella al wrote:
I think all this talk of moving the sub inland through an underwater tunnel is just rediculous. That was a real, large, submarine. You’d need an underwater tunnel at least 75 feet square…and dead straight…to move a sub that large.
Using a tunnel to travel by foot or subway to the shoreline makes far more sense.
Comment 61, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
Or.. maybe the island is floating and the sub can just travel under it in whatever direction desired?
Comment 62, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
So, I agree Locke’s dad is TMFT–but what I can’t decide is if he was really there in the box, or if there really is some “magic box” and that is what Locke saw when they opened it up.
I’m conflicted on the sub, too. Ben said the sub “maintained the illusion” of people being able to leave whenever they wanted–so could it really get home at all? And if it really could get home, but Ben didn’t mind it getting blown up, I guess they are done recruiting people.
Comment 63, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
I was thinking that, or just the fact that the sub can just go below the island to get out.
Comment 64, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
scottc13 wrote:
If you are referring to the one inside his arm w/ stars, this was proven to not be a “new” tattoo. It is visible in the first season, just not as much as his more well known tattoo.
Comment 65, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
Regarding “the box”, I felt that it was just a metaphor used to make Locke understand. The room where his “father” was found is not the box, and “the box” probably isn’t anything like a box.
My guess is that the smoke monster, or even the island, is “the box” and is able to manifest anything people want to see.
Comment 66, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
Two things:
1. It is obvious that there are/were several groups of people occupying the island at different intervals for varied periods of time. The Others don’t know everything about the Dharma projects on the island (i.e. the Swan Station project of button pushing to avert world implosion).
2. TMFT is Anthony Cooper, Locke’s biological father, and very likely the man Sawyer has been searching for most of his adult life. However, it is vitually impossible for Anthony Cooper to also be the infamous “Jacob”. It doesn’t fit with the mythology. If the Others are whacked out reliogcentric moralists, then is logically impossble for a man as immoral as Anthony Cooper to be their leader.
To be honest, I’m not even convinced that “Jacob” is a real person. Perhaps he is like the Wizard in Oz, a manifestation of an idea used to control the Others. Perhaps “Jacob” is some Ben conjured up to sustain his power over the Others.
It was heartbreaking to see the depth of the wickedness John suffered at the hands of his own father. No wonder he has latched on so deeply to the mysticism of the island and its apparent healing powers.
I predict several more showdowns between Ben & John, perhaps even a confrontation over who has more “rights” to the island’s mysteries. My gues is Ben, though born on the island cannot tap into the central mystery of the island like John can.
A+ for including a Brief History of Time in this episode. I heart Stephen Hawking.
Comment 67, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
Anytime Ben told someone that they could go home, he had the sub pilots kill the passengers and return to the island after a couple of weeks. This is where the “illusion” of going home comes from.
Comment 68, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
If Locke’s dad is the original Sawyer, how will our Sawyer (James)learn that? He doesn’t know what the original Sawyer looks like - he once killed another man whom he was led to believe was the original Sawyer. The Others could tell James that this guy is Sawyer, but why would he believe them? He hates them. Locke’s dad would have to tell James himself that he was the guy who conned his parents. Should make for an interesting scene/episode.
Comment 69, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
This maybe way off, but what if Locke was born on the island. I mean what if his dad and mom were on the island long ago. His day got his ticket to go home and his mom died from giving birth to him. He was a foster child. After getting back to the states he gave his son up for adoption. Maybe the death of Lockes mom is what made him Locke’s dad such the con man. Maybe after you leave the island you always have tabs on every move you make. That would explain how they found his father when no one else could. This would also explain Locke’s connection to the island. On the island he seems almost invincible. Or and this is reaching a bit, but maybe his mom hid her pregnancy, that would be hard to do, but maybe just maybe and she did something like Noah’s mom did. One thing is for sure. Locke has something no one else does and something Ben wants and that is a connection to the island. Also i would like to add, what happened to Sun’s baby? She should be showing by now.
Comment 70, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
I want to know why/how Locke’s dad is there? If he got there by the sub, why was he there. Or do the others have the ability to pull someone out of the real world whenever they want?
Comment 71, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
There is a picture over Ben’s bed. It’s obviously a picture of the island. Or a painting. In it the sky looks really strange…anybody notice that? Across from Ben’s bed is a huge round picture or map of some sort. Just wondering if they could mean anything.
Comment 72, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
According to this site: lostpedia.com/wiki/Portal:Epis...
Sun found out she was pregnant on day 60 of island time. It’s now only day 80something. So, it’s not even been a month since she took the pregnancy test. First time moms usually don’t show for 4-5 months.
Comment 73, posted 1 year, 6 months ago - Quote and reply
mr jones wrote:
I did not want to say it outloud but I had the same thought. Maybe he is the man from Tallahassee and “Jacob”.
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Hammer wrote:
That is a seriously good question. Especially because it looks like everyone else that is on the island got there by “accident” (losties, rousseau, desmond) Why Jack hasn’t asked Juliet how she actually got on the island is bugging the crap out of me.