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Tonight’s episode will focus on Sayid, and for those of you who watched the promo at the end of last week I am sure you can put two and two together related to what this means… We should get more detail related to exactly what the Freighties (ers, tots, whatever you want to call them) want with Ben and it will be interesting to see how that plays out. From what I have read, there should be a few eye-poppers tonight and there will be no let down coming off the momentum from last week.
ABC’s official show description:
Spoiler Warning
“Sayid and Kate go in search of Locke to negotiate a peaceful deal when they discover that his hostage may be the key to getting off the Island.”
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There are a few sneak peeks available also: Sneak Peek 1 | Sneak Peek 2
Comment 1, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Well, all I can say to that is….
WHAT THE F**k??!!!
Comment 2, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Toeknee wrote:
Double that….what the hell is going on…thats crazy, man this show is taking all kinds of new twist and turns..
Comment 3, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
omg that was amazing!!!!
- ok so sayid works for ben in the future!!!
- he said something about the list, jacob’s list i’m guessing (actually pretty damn sure).
- he always gets shot when he’s in love.
- what did naomi’s bracelet say (which what’s her name had one just like it too)
- was the girl sayid was with working for abaddon? i think so.
- time flew by in that episode
- i was SHOCKED when i realized that it was ben stitiching him up and i was waiting for vincent too.
- sayid looked good with his hair down (i know totally random)
- the play with hurley was awesome. i totally fell for it.
- i can’t believe hurley went along with that whole con!
- kate & sawyer together again.
that’s all for now. thanks for listening to my rambling!!!
Comment 4, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
what is sayid doing???
Comment 5, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
I missed the 1st half I ‘m out of play tonight
Comment 6, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
I can guess that the R.G. initials on the bracelet stands for “Republican Guard”
Comment 7, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
So is sayid bad or is ben good or are they both bad?
and whats up with the time change
Comment 8, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Toeknee wrote:
Double that….what is going on, man this show got all kinds of twists and turns….what is sayid doing??
Comment 9, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
im agreeing what the f***?
maybe sayid is in the casket later (from the flashforward in the season finale)…nobody wants to go to his funeral because they found out hes working for ben and also he wasnt in america at all so nobody else would know him?? make any sense or am i wayyy out there
Comment 10, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Best episode of any tv show i have ever seen.
observations:
1) locke cant see the cabin because he has lost touch with the island
2) naomi and syiad’s german girl work for same man? both have the same bracelet?
3) Hurley apologized to Jack in past episode for entraping syiad, kate and miles on the island?
4) Ben told Syiad in vet, remember what happened last time you though with your heart and not your gun. What is he refering to? Possibly taking naomi back on the helicopter, leading to drama on the boat.
5) Who the hell is R.G. from Naomi’s braclet, possibly Penelope’s father?
Comment 11, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Did you notice that earlier in the episode Sayid told Locke that he will sell his soul before he trusts Ben…interesting turn of events at the end… is his soul sold?
Comment 12, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
omar: on island: i think he’s going to investigate ben’s claims and see what’s realy going on with the freighter tots. off island: he’s working for ben (and jacob?) as a head hunter.
Mike L: that would be so freaky. mouth dropper comment. (tho really somebody could put pudding on here right now and my mouth would drop. i’m on a bit of a lost high right now).
Andrew: sayid is doing what he’s always done: surviving and doing what he has to.
Is it jus me hearing things, or did ben tell sayid something about keeping his friends alive at the end?
Lostlaur: makes sense. and he could’ve gone back and forth to the island and off since he’s with ben. and that would be why jack thinks they’ve lost their last hope.
and what is that for sayid? like his third gunshot wound?
jn415: 4) i’m thinking naomi or a past mission.
Comment 13, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
lost anoraks: omg, i forgot about that. he seems to have sold his soul in the flashforward, or in the process of selling it. but why?
Comment 14, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
who r the oceanic 6??
Of course we know Jack, Kate, hurley, Sayid
My theory on the other two.
Last scene in last season finale. Kate says to Jack, “I have to get back to him, you know how he gets.” SAWYER
flash-forward last finale, the funeral in an african-american neighborhood, Ben spy on the Boat (MICHAEL). My theory.
Comment 15, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
This site seems to be running very slowly so I’ll be back later. Maybe by then I’ll think of something useful to say. Right now I’m …… speechless. Scenes like that last one are why I watch this great show.
Comment 16, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Early clue. Sayid kills Mister (?) on the golf course. Part of his hit list. On assignment… going through the hits.
Middle clue. Ben has many nice travelling clothes. MANY passports - Ben has Ben doing business off-island for MANY years.
Warm fuzzy. There were a half dozen references to fan “hot button” topics and the were all nicely ’slipped-in”.
Later clue. Freighter tots NOT a big fan of Miles. That means he is VERY important.
Frank Lapidus. Frank = candid, direct, honest.
Lapidus = a type of granite, or in Hebrew - “Illumination”. Therefore - candid or direct illumination. I think he is going to be a neutral broker that speaks honestly about what is bogus and what is really happening.
Also - Daniel to Frank. Stay on the “heading” to get back to the ship. Two seasons ago we were told that 315 (or 325 by some accounts) degrees was the direction that would escape the island magnetics. A reciprocal would be 135 (or 145) degrees to get to the island. That puts the freighter NW of the island. The same direction that OA815 arrived from. (and why did Frank make a hard 90 degree right turn in the helo at the end of the show)?
Comment 17, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Nope…going nowhere fast. The show is now turning into a conspiracy theory, not good enough. Kate stays behind and Jack doesn’t shed a tear?
Jacob’s voice on the phone? morphing into Ben? WTF!
Desmond gets on the choper without a fight?
C’mon JJ, got to do need to do better than that.
Comment 18, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
sorry for that tripple comment back there. woops.
what is up with the site not putting comments up right away?
toeknee: agreed that was just all amazing final scene. mouth dropping, heart racing, constant gasping, last scene.
how many people actually know about ben’s off island buisness?
yeah, why wasn’t jack a bit more concerned with kate? i guess he must not care as much as we thought. oh well, i guess she’ll still have sawyer. looks like they get a bit cozy next week.
Comment 19, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Just a theory I have; looking for some feedback.
I agree that Micheal is the spy on the freighter. I think that he is doing this for Ben because he helped him get off the island.
Sayid is working for ben for the same reason. Somehow Ben becomes instrumental in helping the Oceanic 6 get off the island. Sayid then agrees to help Ben out of appreciation.
The “he” that Kate refers to is also Ben, not Sawyer. Perhaps she too is working for Ben. He not only helped her get off the island, but maybe had something to do with her not going to jail.
Jack is a good person, so he wouldn’t want to work for Ben. Maybe Ben let him take the credit for the escape (”A hero twice over”) and in return, Jack keeps his mouth shut. Hurley is not a problem because he is in the institution and nobody would believe him anyway.
Comment 20, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
At the end of the episode, Ben says to Sayid, “you want your friends to be safe, don’t you”…. so, this is the reason he is doing Ben’s dirty work. But alas, what dirty work does Ben have. How does a guy who has a terminal tumor on an “deserted” island have so much “business” off the island. And where are these so called “friends”, on the island or, is Ben referrening to the other 5 of the O6. As i have previously stated, I believe that more than 6 got off the island, but the “story” that was made up about the “plane crash” and subsequent survivors, there were only 6 who kept everything together and helped facilitate the rescue.
Comment 21, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
I think the guy that visited hugo in the nut house is actually working for ben and ben is the one that is really trying to kill everyone because he wants to make a new island and sayid is just caught up in the middle, and desmond is the spy on the freighter and has always been the spy…..
Comment 22, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
The O6 are Jack, kate, Sayid, Hurley, Jin and Sun. Don’t ask me where I got this but it’s the deal. My other theory: The Island is a time warp - different times on the two clocks help this theory. Other than that I gots nothing.
Comment 23, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
man you right micheal is the spy, man this show is just gettin so crazy…i need more like a vampire needs blood….
Comment 24, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Shooter @ Comment 21.
Good theories, I won’t completely endorse them, they have merit. But I definitely won’t dismiss them either. Big Question. What is so important, after the fact, that folks off-island have to be ASASSINATED? Revenge? To continue a decption? Money? Power? Greed? Love?
Lost Chicka - love the great shotgun thinking. u fired off quite a few (accurate) rounds for sure.
Comment 25, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
and what was that collar charlotte found in the desert on the dead polar bear…it ties to a station to the darma people….
Comment 26, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
WHOA DUDE!!!!!!!! UNBELIEVEABLE episode!!!! I am REELING!!!!!!!Here goes:
1. Sayid is Ben’s man on the freighter! Ben has had it all planned out. He’s got something on Sayid. He’s found Sayid’s weakness and is exploiting it as Ben says he loves to do. It has something to do with Nadia! We don’t know what else transpired between Ben and Sayid at the barracks.
2. Any potential connection between Daniel and Hurley since Daniel is dubbed a “nut case” by Naomi? They have not met up yet.
3. There will be some sort of an Abaddon vs. Ben thing coming up. Abaddon wants to know if Ben and Sayid are still alive. Maybe Kate and Jack, too. Ben is protecting them?
4. Bring back Charlie!
5. Where’s Alpert? What happened to him and the people that went with him to the “temple?”
6. Ben has been going back and forth to see Alpert.
7. The tots do know Penny. Why won’t they spill what they know about her to Des? Her dad found out about Penny’s rescue set up and got to them (tots) first to pay them off.
Comment 27, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
CS Lewis must know Darma, because she had a really big Cheshire cat grin when she saw the Dharma collar.
Comment 28, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
The whole time delay on the rocket thing blew my mind. There’s a 30 minute time difference between the outside & the island?? I always thought it might have been DAYS, even WEEKS. There goes that theory!
DocH: I noticed the hard veer to the right too. What WAS that about?
Now I really think the island is being fought over by two corporations. Hence why Ben has to keep leaving the island for business. And why another group with a lot of resources is coming to the island not for the survivors but for Ben & to gain other information.
I’m still awestruck by this episode. That ending… Sayid always has the best episodes!
Comment 29, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
donkey wrote:
It doesn’t help the theory. It totally and completely sells the theory. We have all postulated the real world and the island were way out of sync. Now we have it. Daniel called in the rocket shot and expected it in short order. When it arrived it was 31 minutes out of sync. Now the question… is the island running faster OR slower than real time? A small rocket should only take about 3-4 minutes to travel from the freighter to the helo, from 80 or so miles offshore. 31 minutes on top of 3 minutes is about a 10-1 ratio. Therefore, island time takes 10 times longer than real-world time… they haven’t been on the island for 90+ days… they’ve been there for 900+ days in off-island time. (or 9+ days - not a math wizard here).
Comment 30, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Why sayid can hoop up with a white girl but i cant?? maybe i gotta move to europe… Who is alpert??
Comment 31, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Cool! That would explain Alpert not aging.
Comment 32, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Wow that was GREAT! Awesome on so many levels.
2 cents:
1) Somehow the O6 end up working for Ben and they are all kept off the island while the New group take over the island. Another great Switcheroo
2) Here is the kicker Desmond is the spy. He is going to the boat and no one noticed? He has been on the island how many times and he has a relationship that ben knows and understands. He just wants to see his Penny
Thats it I am still wondering about my underground ape colony…
Comment 33, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Huh. 30 minute delay. Biblical connection? There is a 30 minute silence halfway through the Tribulation. Book of Revelation.
Comment 34, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Well, speechless is an understatement. I have watched it twice and I am still reeling. Looks like timespace theories continue to be supported. Now is future Ben coercing Sayid or is Sayid on board? I am guessing Sayid is on board. He knew the freighties were bad news but are his friends on or off the island in future or both. Do they even know they are in trouble? Looks like Sawyer is staying, giving Kate the incentive to go back (not sure why she leaves in the first place). Did Locke use the volanic ash to trap the Jacob & cabin? Did Hurley somehow disturb it? Why am I not surprized tha Ben is a traveling man? So where is the portal? In the closet with the clothes? Absolutely fascinating!!!
Comment 35, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Ben got all these passports like he jason bourne…Ben working for the government as a covert operative and sayid has been recruited also, actually he is a double agent…
Comment 36, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Maybe Walt is some sort of spy. Does Ben actually leave the island OFTEN? There was all those passports and money as if he leaves every other day. Is there an airplane or something?
I think the bracelets mean they work for the same guy…Naomi and the blond chick that got shot at the end. The same guy might be Naomi’s boss and he is African American so can he end up being the one in the casket?
I think Sayid is now someone who is trying to keep someone from finding the island and maybe the “friends.”
That is all I can think of…..unless they are all living in some sort of alternate reality!
Comment 37, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
JN415 wrote:
My immediate thought was that he could not see the cabin because there were too many “non-believers” there, or that they had not crossed the ash/chalk perimeter to the cabin. Its’ important for sure - just no good guesses right now.
Comment 38, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
- Im not sure the clue was that the island is 31 minutes ahead or behind, but more that all the “numbers” appear again when both clocks are put together.
- If Ben is an international spy, who is Jacob, and why does the house disappear?
- They can’t all work for ben, ben told sayid “ure doing it to save your friends.”
- Where are the others?
Comment 39, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
man this blog has a 30 min delay…do yall think we could all be on the island right now???
Comment 40, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Ben having beaucoup passports….explains the polar bear in Tunisia?
Comment 41, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Sayid’s hitlist…Abaddon’s people, ie Naomi and the GG (German girl). The Ben vs. Abaddon thing coming up….
Comment 42, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
thats right ben when the clocks are put together the numbers appear again, i think those are actually the cordinates to the island on lattitude and longitude, thats why they pushed the button so outside people cant see the island on the grid map….
Comment 43, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Tasha wrote:
I wouldn’t think its Abbadon since he’s obviously got financial resources & wouldn’t need to be in that neighborhood. Plus we don’t know if the person is African- American, just living in a lower income neighborhood. I think the writers said that the person in the casket is someone we already knew & we hadn’t met Abbadon at that point.
But I DEFINITELY think the bracelets are a connection between the girls. Though Sayid seemed more surprised to see it on Naomi than he did the Berlin girl. Did anyone else feel like he recognized it?
I thought maybe it had something to do with his girlfriend. And any ideas as so R.G.? Regina?
Comment 44, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
If Ben really is some boss, corp. exec., or just crazy why did he get a tumor removed on the island. Obv with the money, passports, and clothes he could have gone anywhere. I like where the story is going, but am convinced they had no end plot to work with seasons 1-3. They were just making stuff up…
Comment 45, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Maybe Walt made it off-island. That’s why he has aged 2.5 yrs (900 days) and grown 6 inches in puberty. He is just “projected” back onto the island at critical times, like the “Island Whispers”.
This saga is always about redemption. Who redeemed themselves this episdode, and who failed or slipped in the redemption category?
Comment 46, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
It seems that Sayid is up to no good in the flash-forward. Yet in 3 seasons of watching LOST there is no character on the Island I would trust more than Sayid. None. So I am really wondering what the heck could’ve happened to get him to be doing Ben’s bidding.
One of the other LOST characters who always seems to be a good guy, someone we the viewer (and the other characters) can trust to try and do the decent thing is Hurley. Yet in this episode, he acts in an underhanded manner, tricking and deceiving his friends. That was distressing to me.
Comment 47, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
DocH wrote:
It doesn’t help the theory. It totally and completely sells the theory. We have all postulated the real world and the island were way out of sync. Now we have it. Daniel called in the rocket shot and expected it in short order. When it arrived it was 31 minutes out of sync. Now the question… is the island running faster OR slower than real time? A small rocket should only take about 3-4 minutes to travel from the freighter to the helo, from 80 or so miles offshore. 31 minutes on top of 3 minutes is about a 10-1 ratio. Therefore, island time takes 10 times longer than real-world time… they haven’t been on the island for 90+ days… they’ve been there for 900+ days in off-island time. (or 9+ days - not a math wizard here).
but daniel was talking to regina on the freighter in real time. im thinking if the rocket came 30 minutes later, the island is running slower. there was a great opportunity to see how far along the real world is really going, when Jack asked Frank about the world series, but Frank just dismissed it in disgust for the bosox. the island running slow theory can also be supported by alpert not aging, and juliet’s sister’s kid being what looks like to about 2-3 years of age already. oh wait, but julie said she was there 2-3 years…hm.
GOSH i love this show.
Comment 48, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Also- LOL @ Omar’s comments.
Maybe Hurley is replacing Locke as Jacob’s buddy & thats why Hurley says he shouldn’t have gone with Locke. He didn’t want to get involved with Jacob. That could be why he said something about, “He wants us to go back.” and gets so freaked out in the convenience store when he sees Charlie?
Thanks a lot Lost NOW I CAN’T FALL ASLEEP.
Comment 49, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Alpert is the Other that has known Ben since childhood and he hasn’t aged. He was involved in the Purge and also got Locke to convince Sawyer to kill his conman dad.
Comment 50, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
31 mins is exponential, the dude early hit the nail on the head 900 days or even more, check this…Island time moving much slower then real time. Desmond pressing the button slowed island time, now the island trying to regain is time equilbrium, present is catching up with past. We get to watch two periods correct themselves as the collide or pass eachother…woah.
Comment 51, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
saiyd is still finishing up island buisness, he cant go back to iraq, remember he is still searching for his true love, ben must know, or makes saiyd think he knows where she is, he must do these things to get back to her…
Comment 52, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Its like that movie where death will do anything to catch up with those that cheat it, I think that is the same principle here on this island as time balances it’s self…smoke monster is some how involved in this.
Comment 53, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
lost chicka wrote:
Comment 54, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
However, Alpert was one of the two that helped recruit Juilette. He may not age on the island, but we know he has been off the island.
Comment 55, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
WOW…I love this show so much. Just had to say that before I read everyones comments…going back up now.
and Sayid looked amazing but I am shocked…okay going to read now…be back soon!!!
Comment 56, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
tc wrote:
LOVE this theory. LOVE.
Comment 57, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
myleee @ Comment 49
but daniel was talking to regina on the freighter in real time. im thinking if the rocket came 30 minutes later, the island is running slower. there was a great opportunity to see how far along the real world is really going, when Jack asked Frank about the world series, but Frank just dismissed it in disgust for the bosox. the island running slow theory can also be supported by alpert not aging…
I agree. Island slow. World fast. I totally forgot the BoSox reference, and laughed when you reminded me. THEN I REALIZED - Frank was probably shrugging off the remark because the Sox have just won the title again in three years - which Jack did not know. Hence the joke and a TIME DILATION clue.
Lets’ not forget the fertility issue and Juliet looking at xrays in Miami of 20-something women with 70-something uteruses (or vice-versa). There’s your time differential!
Comment 58, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
- some one asked who Alpert is: Dr. Alpert is the Other who never ages, wears a lot of eyeliner, and conspired with Ben to gas the Dharma Initiative
- Also, whoever said that Kate is working for Ben in the future is right on the money!! I hadn’t thought of that.
Comment 59, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Ok…New to this site but here is a couple theories based on what I have read…
Desmond is the spy. It explains his “visions”. He leaves the island for very short amount of times in island time, but can be 10 times that amount of time outside the island. So he sees that Charlie dies, and comes back to the island with his “visions”. He saves Charlie for reasons we don’t understand yet.
The time delay (about 10 times as long outside the island) explains why in the first episode of the season, the tv coverage talks about the “2004 crash of Oceanic flight 815″
We assume that we know 4 of the Oceanic 6, but don’t assume…The only ones we know for sure who have said they are members of the Oceanic 6 are Sawyer and Sayid…Jack must be also because he is back as a doctor at his old hospital…Never did Kate say she was a member of the Oceanic 6. She may have gotten off the island unknown to anyone else.
I also agree Michael is on the freighter, but I don’t agree he is Ben’s mole on the freighter…I think he is on there to come back and look for Walt…
Again I am new to this board but have always been a fan of Lost. Let me know what you think.
Comment 60, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
this is incredibly long:
shooter: good thoughts. maybe that’s why jack started crying when kate said that.
skweez: whew, so i wasn’t just making that up. what friends is he talking about tho? on island? off island? either way i think sayid would be willing to do it. or is it for nadia? but then why friendS?
omar: no way is desmond the spy on the freighter. i have no clue where you would even get that from. it’s michael, i’m convinced. ben doesn’t want to kill everyond or else he would’ve done that a long time ago. i don’t think abaddon (guy who visited hurley) is working for ben. if he was he wouldn’t have to ask hurley if the others were still alive. don’t worry, someday you’ll find love. lol. that would be so freaky if all of us lost addicts are on island time. that would explain why i was so late to everything today too. oooo….lol.
doc h: thank ya kindly.
intolost: 1) well maybe they played some pool while they were in there too. i don’t believe it’s possible for sayid to be ben’s man on the freighter. he’s been here the whole time, and he just now left. besides ben knew the info before. i think it’s michael on the boat
2) that would just be priceless.
4) no, he’s dead. let the dude rest in peace!
5) yeah where is alpert?
lesley: i have to disagree. i’m only now just started watching it for the second time, but i don’t think sayid is on board. i think once again he’s being forced to be the bad guy to save others (in iraq his family and with ben his friends). he’s not friends with the freiter tots, he’s going there to investigate (my thought anyways).
don’t you love just how freely jack gives the info on sayid away to frankie?
i think ben and abaddon are fighting over the island. i think in the big picture, ben wants the best for the island and abaddon wants to exploit it. i think abaddon has something to do with dharma, who wanted to use it for their own purposes, and ben with the hostiles, who wanted to keep the island safe.
and i am just as baffled as locke about jacob’s cabin missing.
Sayid Rocks My Socks Off!!! =]
Comment 61, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Ben wrote:
Maybe he could not trust anyone to do the surgery. And with good reason- people really ARE out to get him. Was the submarine already blown up at that point? I can’t really remember.
Why was he injecting sayid with something- is that normal bullet removal procedure?
I mean wasn’t it kind of weird that they met in a pound when it was closed? Does Ben work there? (I’m pretty sure he was wearing a lab coat) Did he break in to do emergency surgery? Does he just really like dogs??
SO MANY QUESTIONS.
Also in going with the mirror, faith/science, redemption theories… notice how once Sayid is off the island he is back into an intelligence gathering, murderous lifestyle similar to before the crash? I don’t think Ben is necessarily blackmailing him to work on this. I think Sayid is doing it for some of his own reasons but was shook up by falling in love for the German girl he just killed. He didn’t seem to mind his new job after he killed the golf man & calmly walked away.
Comment 62, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
i like where you guys are taking this time thing… ok, so, is it possible….
walt and michael in fact did make it off the island, time passes, and the live their lives off the island, and walt grew up in an altered time. imagining michael’s guilt leaving his friends behind, ben (or at least someone working for ben) coerces michael to be a spy on the freight, to do something good for his friends… the exact same way ben got sayid to work for him. just an idea.
so how much time has passed between the island and everything else? remember, jack asked if the sox actually won the world series, and frank responded like it had just happened yesterday. jack also said “i can’t believe it’s been 100 days since i’ve seen a game” — if time construct were largely different, i’m sure the number 100 would’ve struck frank as odd.
Comment 63, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
myleee @ Comment 49
but daniel was talking to regina on the freighter in real time. im thinking if the rocket came 30 minutes later
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also. radio comm travels @ ~186,000 miles per second vs. a mach 2 rocket @ 20 miles per minute. the radio call would still be almost instantaneous with a tenfold time delay, while the much slower rocket would go from a few minutes to half an hour.
Comment 64, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
it is possible that ben has a twin. ben is not a medical guy. why is he performing a medical procedure.
in fact - that guy could have been the REAL ben and its his twin that is on the island.
Comment 65, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Great episode:
-Michael could be the spy on freighter, but what about Walt,
-Walt is dead, Walt’s been dead sorry to say. No one shows up out of thin air only if there dead, i.e.-Jack’s father, Charlie, and Walt.
-Ben, now hear me out-is the Good Guy. Why? He warn everyone, and I mean EVERYONE about not getting off the Island and people on the freighter were not come to rescue them. Ben is chosen, by whom? Who knows, but his name in the bible means: the “son of the right hand”, that is, “of happy list of the sons of Jacob. Judah Ch.49
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As for the oceanic 6….in season 3, Desmond tells Charlie that he has a vision of seeing Claire and the baby leaving the island on a helicopter. Leaves me wondering?!#@$
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theories on desmond
he’s been pretty low key in terms of character importancefor the abilities that the producers/writers bestowed on him, especially this far into the storyline. he has visions, ones of the future and of the past, and has used them in present “island time” to help the oceanic815 batch get off the island. he has connections to Widmore, through Penny, which also helps the losties in getting off the island (somewhat). he came to island on a boat, by himself (actually, i cant really remember off the top of my head, but currently thats my guess). so why is ben not all that concerned with him, as much as Walt or Locke? Does Ben know he exists and know about his visions? Why wouldnt Ben use that to his advantage? Or does Ben know and is just using him as a test tube baby, to see from afar how else to harness the island’s powers? it just seems to me that desmond should be playing a more important role in the story than what he’s getting now.
wow, i really cant sleep, my mind is racing!
thanks for replying DocH!
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why do my comments keep getting posted twice????
ben: i think because he would be on record then. idk tho, i’m not a genius. i just imitate one.
sjh: i think that’s why hurley feels bad about going with locke. he ends up becomeing a bad guy and is sorry for it. cuz good time hurley can’t handle stabbing his friends backs.
tc: ok, what? exponential? equilbrium? 2 periods correct themselves? again, i’m not a genius.
lostlaur: sleep? who needs sleep when you have lost??
i loved hurley’s mention of that break the guy’s neck with that break dance thing he did. i loved that. sayid is awesome. how many other guys out there can snap somebody’s neck with their legs?
alpert wears guyliner, not eyeliner.
Comment 69, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Ok. The bracelet. I think it meant something to Sayid when he saw it on Naomi. The other girl either had one too, or Sayid gave her the one he took from Naomi? I also think Sayind knows who Naomi is - I think he knew her from the past - they both have a military background - their paths might have crossed. He seemed touched by her death and wanted to make sure she had dignity by taking her back to the freighter rather than leaving her behind.
The bracelet definitely is a clue to someone or somehting.
Maybe Ben is playing both sides of the fence - maybe he was the girls boss and he was testing Sayids loyalty before he gives him a new mission - the real one.
He did mention at the end that Sayid was doing this to protect his friends and he also told him he had a new name for him - but of course we’ll have to wait until next week to find that out.
The hidden room with all the passports and clothes was definitely interesting and significant. Obviously Ben does leave the island and probably often.
Maybe he and Sayid are both good guys on a mission - sometimes good can be misinterpreted and innocent people become the “wanted” - just an idea….
I would be happy to see what anone thinks……
Comment 70, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Does anyone know if Sayid had flashbacks in Australia? Any scenes with him at the airport? I’m thinking maybe he was on the island before the crash. He knew the soldier from Iraq in the hatch?
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ben says of course she did when sayid says she wanteed to know about you. so that confirms she works for the same person who hired naomi along with the bracelets. which means she works for abaddon.
01001011: i don’t do the good twin/bad twin thing. KISS (keep it simple stupid - not saying you’re stupid…)
Comment 72, posted 5 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
My thoughts on the meaning of RG on the bracelet…it stands for renormalization group which is related to theoretical physics, quantum theory, and maxwell. Any thoughts?
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Chrisbro wrote:
I tend to agree that you could be right - that is exactly what I came up with after last weeks episode and posted it somehwere. Jesus sets at the right hand of the father and since Ben means son of right hand - it could be a reference to him being a christ-like figure - remember Jesus was often mistaken for evil and was tortured - if we follow carefully and look for clues we may just find out that he really is the good guy?
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