The Constant
6 months, 1 week ago by WillRead more: Desmond, Lost Episodes, Sayid, season 4
Tonight’s Desmond-centric episode will mostly focus on Sayid and Desmond’s trip with Frank Lapidus back to the freighter – and accordingly we will see the introduction of a number of new characters. Hopefully we get much more insight into how cohesive a group the freighties are (or not) and additional information on who might be Ben’s man on the boat. I would expect to see a strange sequence related to Desmond’s flash – and we’ll probably have a difficult time determining if we are seeing past or future – should be a great episode.
Spoiler Warning
ABC’s Official Show Description
Sayid and Desmond run into turbulence on their way to the freighter, causing Desmond to suffer unusual side effects.
Episode Preview
As always here are a few sneak peeks of The Constant:
Sneak Peek 1 | Sneak Peek 2 | Sneak Peek 3
Comment 1, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
what if ben doesn’t really have any man on the boat.. what if he can just read minds.. just what if..
and is it me? coz i really miss the black smoke monster.. will they show the black smoke monster this season? so i think i hardly saw it last season…
Comment 2, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
i love the sneak peeks!! thank you..
i’m so excited to see this episode.. i’m so curious about the side effects.. hmm… it’s just odd when he said we’re @ 40 ft.. does he mean below sea level?
Comment 3, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
My Prediction for tonight
By the very end of the Episode the shocker will be Michael appearing as the Spy.
A Desmond Flash Forward
Widmore Connection revealed.
Comment 4, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
I just watched the previews and WOW!! (couldn’t help myself) Can’t wait for tonights episode!! 3 1/2 hours to go!
Comment 5, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
I think we are finding out why Faraday didn’t know why the plane footage in his FF made him act weird with his “care taker”…eh?
Comment 6, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
I feel somewhat vindicated of my theory from last season that Des is VERY important to this story.
Comment 7, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
I feel like LOST just became the movie Primer. Awesome episode.
Comment 8, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
So what’s up with Widmore buying that 1st mates journal? Needs to know something don’t he?
Comment 9, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Well, that was pretty friggin’ awesome! I just hope this doesn’t mean Desmond will be dying soon (but I fear that it does).
I hope we’ll get to find out what the contents are in that journal from the Black Rock. And I wonder if Mr. Widmore knew about the island before getting the journal.
I can’t wait to see where this all goes! Is it next Thursday yet!?
Comment 10, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
My TV has poor reception and I couldn’t read the Faraday’s note to himself in the last scene. What did it say?
Comment 11, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
If anyone can find the bearing that Ben gave Michael, we can find out if he’s on the boat.
Comment 12, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
So….my mind is spinning right now. Thought I would get a comment in before the crowd gets here. I think I could have a brain aneurysm from watching this show.
Right now all I can say is Ben has a spy on the boat who also seems to be a friend of the Losties….could it be Micheal or Walt?
Also, I have to say I had tears in my eyes when Des called penny. That was so sweet!
Comment 13, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Toeknee wrote:
No I don’t think Des will die soon! Finding the “constant” saved him and he will be alright now. How did the Black Rock journal come to light I wonder?
Comment 14, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Hammer wrote:
That was quite an episode, and a mind blower. It’s going to take me some time to put my thoughts together.
Comment 15, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Josh wrote:
Desmond will be my constant.
Comment 16, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
man can u beleive that….the island can transport people into the past now, this show is just making things up now…i think the writers got there 6 year old kids writing for them now….that was a waste of a episode…desmond gonna die anywayzzz… wat up lost chicka…
Comment 17, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
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The note said something like… “If anything goes wrong, Desmond will be MY anchor”
Comment 18, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Josh wrote:
It said, and I paraphrase,
If anything goes wrong, Desmond Hume is MY constant.
HTH,
: ) P
Comment 19, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
WOW!!! TIme Travel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WOW
WOW
WOW
Maybe the only way losties can get back to Island is through the MIND TIME TRAVEL
HIghly unlikeyl BUt Possible.
MIchael is the man on the boat Im sure of it.
WOW
Comment 20, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
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The note said something like… “If anything goes wrong, Desmond will be MY constant”
Comment 21, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
All I can say is this was what we (all of us who believed time travel was central to the island) have been waiting for. Hate to say I told you so… but… We told you so… Not gloating just Happy!
An incredible Epi.
Comment 22, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Clearly the best episode in years. I was floored and I’m a guy and I even had tears when Dez made contact with Penny. Beautiful. What an episode!
Comment 23, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Hammer wrote:
I was just thinking about this. Michael was given 325, Frank was given 305. Who knows where Michael might be? (or when, to quote Hurley)
Comment 24, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Rita wrote:
No I don’t think Des will die soon! Finding the “constant” saved him and he will be alright now. How did the Black Rock journal come to light I wonder?
Even though I thoroughly enjoyed the episode, I hope folks can relax a little bit with over-analyzing it, because there are definitely some plot holes. Stuff happened quite fast with Penny and Des. She changed her number the same day she asked him to stop calling. She moved to a different address, the address she moved to happened to be walking distance from the Auction, which happened to be close to Daniel Farraday’s office. Mr. Widmore happened to be at the auction, and despite his apparent dislike for Dez, gives his daughter’s address to him.
But, I can buy the keeping the number bit, just for entertainment purposes.
Comment 25, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
I agree with Rita, Desmond will be okay because he has his “constant”. No way would they kill him off now, he’s WAY too important in the whole time travel scheme. Loved the episode, but as I predicted, more questions than ever!!!
What room is the LAA meeting in? I am lost!
Comment 26, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Trying to wrap my head around time travel by conscience only. Walt seems to be able to do it. That explains why he is “taller” when he talks to Locke.
Is this what Charlie meant when he said “I’m dead, but I’m also here.”?
Comment 27, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
The people on the boat didn’t seem to know where they were at either. The guy said they knew they were in the Pacific and about the last port being Fiji. Then the guy that dies said that they just wanted to “see” the island. I wonder if its like middle earth or something. I mean Time travel is a little far fetched so why can’t it be Middle Earth?
Comment 28, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
TheErikfromTallahassee wrote:
LOL! I usually hate the mushy stuff to, but that was a great scene between Des & Pen
Comment 29, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
That episode was great. Go Desmond. I always knew there was more to Desmod than meets the eye.
This is confirmation that the writers are not just making it up as they go.
Comment 30, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
time travel — that explains the polar bear and the french lady’s recording for 16 years — and walt appearing to john locke and telling him he has ‘work to do’
Comment 31, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
New to blog: AMAZING revelation!!!! Years ago my wife and I saw this old movie “Somewhere in Time” In it, a guy travels through time through hypnosis. Essentially he travels to 1912 by convincing himself it is 1912. The professer he consults before his little journey says his clothes/etc. everything must be 1912 or earlier. He falls in love with a woman from the past but accidentally is brought back by a modern “penny” is in his pocket. This reference to modern times ruins his link. A “penny” brought him back! No way it is a coincidence. They love to pay omage to sci fi flicks…but this also proves they planned this plot sequence from the start! The movie was from around 1980 and had C. Reeves and J. Seymour I think. Anyone else remember this?
Comment 32, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
I think all the radiation from those experiments cuased Daniel to lose his short term memory, remember how he didnt have protection on his head with the mouse experiment.
Comment 33, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Toeknee wrote:
I was just thinking about this. Michael was given 325, Frank was given 305. Who knows where Michael mig ht be? (or when, to quote Hurley)
Michael might be on the boat, it seems if you are on 305 you get the side effect…eventually. The guy who died in Dez’s arms had a buddy who died much quicker.
Comment 34, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Tasha wrote:
You’re right, they don’t know where they are. Last season said something like “Island? We were given coordinates in the middle of the bloody ocean” I’d imagine some crew members know more than others.
Comment 35, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
By the way that was the best representation of time travel that I have ever seen. Very clever. None of this get in the mabic machine stuff. All in the concious just as einstien would have liked it.
Comment 36, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
I like the “Constant” theme.
Shane “Some where in time” was a great example…and very relevant to this epi..
Comment 37, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Somewhere In Time was filmed at Mackinac Island in Michigan. Remember it well! (As do most Michiganders I am sure) Penny in his pocket, I don’t remember that part but WOW!!!
I believe the writers know exactly what they are doing and it is all planned out. They bring us amazing episodes week after week!
Comment 38, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Shane wrote:
Welcome Shane…and thanks for the tidbit.
Comment 39, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Desmond will be fine, he’s not gonna die, he has reconnected with his constant…Minkowski on the other hand has not found his constant…and Daniel knows this and that’s why he wrote it down back in 1996 in his notepad, Daniel’s not so much of a headcase anymore, just is smarter than all of the others and knows much more than anyone…can’t wait to see his episode
Comment 40, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
WHAT A SHOW, it is getting really interesting..
can’t wait until thursday!!!!!!
i was wondering who is the captain on the ship?????
Comment 41, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Off topic but not really…I see another Cloverfield connection. The guys said he was just on a ferris wheel. I’ll take this to the Cloverfield Update thread….sorry.
Comment 42, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
shane — yes, saw the movie with chris reeve and jayne seymour … and you’re right— this episode was similar to that
i believe the island is in the middle of this time portal … that’s why it’s so important to ben …that’s why ben is protecting it…just don’t know why ben didn’t go to the future and cure himself of the tumor
Comment 43, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Hammer wrote:
It wouldn’t surprise me if Michael is on the boat. I thought the reason Des had his “experiences” was because the copter veered slightly off course during the storm. Remember how emphatic (to use the description from the pop-up in tonight’s “Eggtown”) Daniel was in telling Frank to absolutely stay on course?
I do wonder what determines how a person reacts to it? Sayid and Frank were unaffected, but Desmond was affected, because of the electromagnetism. But why was Brandon affected more severely than Minkowski?
Comment 44, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Maybe I’m crazy, but when we see Sayid on the freighter alone (16 minutes in) the camera scans toward the top of the ship…and it looks like an African American man with a goatee looking through binoculars….could this be Michael?
Comment 45, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
SO……would the whole “Dharma Initiative” be a time travel experiment…and Desmond and Daniel started the chain of events with Mr. Widmore being the financier of this experiment and he recieves his info from the book he just bought at auction?
Comment 46, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
ok, awesome episode. a bit confusing but i liked it. i couldn’t get on here for 20 minutes so i had plenty of time to think about the show.
> so daniel faraday is going thorugh the same thing as des. this makes SOOO much sense.
> desmond is daniel’s constant!?!?! since des is his constant, when is he flipping back and forth in time?
> minkowski got the same thing as desmond! and he died. i hope des doesn’t. is that why frank didn’t want daniel to talk to him? it explains why minkowski couldn’t come to the phone tho.
> omg, i was so happy when des found penny at the end!!!! i’ve been waiting forever for that moment!!!!!!!
> so with the time change thinga mabober it’s dusk when they start to go through the cloud and day when they get through it. when des goes back and forth between time it christmas eve ‘04 and ‘96.
> would oxford really hire faraday??? i don’t see him getting through the front desk with hair like that.
> omar wat up with you?????
> so does penny remember desmond saying he’ll call her on dec 24 ‘04? or is it like she can’t remember him saying that?
> i loved this ep! but if anything like the lake house movie starts happening i’m not gonna be able to watch the show
Comment 47, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
A few weeks ago someone brought up the concept of “vile vortices”, and said that is may be related to the mysteries of Lost. I don’t fully understand it, but I remember that one vile vortex is near Madagascar, which I think is where they said the journal was found.
You can read about vile vortices here:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vile_Vor...
Comment 48, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
How come Sahid can fix anything??? That commincations tower on the boat was pretty messed up, and how does penelope have the same phone number for 8 years, and if she did then how she gonna give him the real number after that crazy story….This show is not making any sense now or maybe it was just this episode… if i was in charge i would blow up the whole island and be done for it…Obama for president 08….
Comment 49, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Des will be one of the “O6″,either that or he will be one of the “DO8″(2 Dead “O6″survivors from Jacks BS court story).I assume this because he is with Syaid now so… what happens next,its up to you but I say the big dude fom Vegas is not the ships libraian so expect fireworks next episode.Also,Ben’s “Man on the Boat”?… I think its the chopper pilot,what say you?
Comment 50, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS THAT WAS THE GREATEST EPISODE OF LOST SINCE THE ONE WHERE ANNA LUCIA AND LIBBY DIED. Desmond is not going to die. Sawyer is going to die, i’m 100% sure. Also, Jack wont go to see aaron because he is probably responsible for the death of Claire. Farraday or Charlotte die next episode. i hope its charlotte because farraday is cool
Comment 51, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
CTKMIKE- I went back and looked. The dude seems bigger than Micheal but who knows. My picture isn’t that clear.
Comment 52, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Lisa wrote:
Well it seem the Orchid video was hinting that DHARMA had Daniel’s device, but it duplicated the rabbit instead of just the rabbit’s conscience.
Comment 53, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
omar wrote:
Yeah, the communications center stuff was a bit far-fetched. Desmond said, “Can you fix it”, and Sayid said, “I’ll need a minute”. The thing was in a million pieces, torn wires everywhere……
Same number for 8 years….I’ve had the same one for 11 years, my parents have had the same one for 40 years….
Comment 54, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
ctkmike wrote:
I have a 61″ DLP and HD with DVR… I just went back and it sure looks like Michael with a cap and a goatee. Good Eye.
Comment 55, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Ya tokenee i mentioned the whole vile vortices thing couple weeks back….if you wanna read up on that theory, just hit the tailsection blog..
Comment 56, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Bizarro! I don’t know what to think yet.
I need to clear my head.
Comment 57, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
there is supposedly 12 vile vortices around the world (which is a true theory), example would be the bermuda triangle and such where one can jump all reality and perception of real time and place…there is one in the south pacific where the plane went down and people believe that is what happened to amelia earheart..
Comment 58, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Toeknee wrote:
Vile Vortices = Hollow Earth
That’s what I’m talking about!
Comment 59, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Rikki wrote:
Charlotte is not going to die yet…Did you read her interview two weeks back?
Comment 60, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Minkowski as Ben’s man on the boat? Ben talking to him in the past?
Comment 61, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
very confusing. So, with Des’s time travel what
’s the theory on how this factor’s into him being able to see flashes of the future???
Comment 62, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Stinkin’ amazing! Wow! How can they top this?
Did anyone freak out when Des first sees that communication officer strapped in the bed? The background music made it seem he was someone we were supposed to know and then they go to commercial.
Comment 63, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Frank wrote:
no becuase then who opend the door to let them out of the clinic
Comment 64, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Toeknee wrote:
It wouldn’t surprise me if Michael is on the boat. I thought the reason Des had his “experiences” was because the copter veered slightly off course during the storm. Remember how emphatic (to use the description from the pop-up in tonight’s “Eggtown”) Daniel was in telling Frank to absolutely stay on course?
I do wonder what determines how a person reacts to it? Sayid and Frank were unaffected, but Desmond was affected, because of the electromagnetism. But why was Brandon affected more severely than Minkowski?
I think Brandon and Minkowski got it because they probably did not go exactly on the heading. I think the Freightor knew how to get close to it, but they don’t know the exact heading to go in on, without the side effects (and have probably tried b4 w/o success). I don’t think Daniel’s coordinates (305?) are as correct as the 325, which probably does not produce any side effects, (but he believes it is, or has slightly miscalculated but can accept the difference) or they are minimal. If they knew the exact way to get in, it would seem they would just go right in, but they don’t so they sent the 4 in first to see if there would be any effects.
I agree with whoever originally posted in thinking that Widmore is the person after Ben.
Time travel kinda opens the door up to a lot of possiblities, I hope they give a nice explanation soon to tighten up the storyline.
Comment 65, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
If the guy piloting the boat is Micheal that would certainly explain who is Ben’s “man” on the boat. I will have to check the dvr tomorrow.
Comment 66, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Penny said she has been looking for Des for three years. Is that how long it has been since Des turned that key and got radiated??
Comment 67, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Andrew wrote:
no becuase then who opend the door to let them out of the clinic
I thought it was Frank… Someone who does not appear to be Ben’s man…
Comment 68, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Lost Addict* wrote:
Just a guess, but now that Dez has found his constant, he may be able to better understand how to use his visions. He’s still vital to the story IMO.
Comment 69, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
RGS wrote:
Okay, I don’t know anything about headings, but if Michael’s little boat left from a totally different place on the island from the helicopter, would that account for the difference in the heading that each was given?
: ) P
Comment 70, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
LostinSev wrote:
No, it’s still 2004 on island time. Des got the heavy electromagnetism exposure within a month or 2 of the plane crash.
Comment 71, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
LostinSev wrote:
No, it is when his boat went missing
also, if anyone is interested in a video about the dif. dimensions/ time travel, check this out.
tenthdimension.com/medialinks....
Comment 72, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
PJSander wrote:
Okay, I don’t know anything about headings, but if Michael’s little boat left from a totally different place on the island from the helicopter, would that account for the difference in the heading that each was given?
: ) P
I don’t know much about heading either, but I play like I do on this site…lol. I would imagine that since the helicopter can fly, it doesn’t matter where it takes off from. Don’t quote me.
Comment 73, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Can someone help me out? My dvr crashed and I did not get the last two minutes. Desmond was calling Penny and the phone was ringing when I it went dead. I can now tell that Penny picked up. What did she say? Would love a blow by blow of those last two minutes. Thanks.
Comment 74, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
LostinSev wrote:
No, Dez has been on the island for that long.
Comment 75, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
What if Micheals on the boat but he’s not Bens man the boat. Whatif micheal came back to help the lost people and Frank or somone else is the real “man on the boat” cause why would micheal help Ben. Wouldnt he just want to get of the island with his son and live a normal life. or try to help his friends back on the island.
Comment 76, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
The best episode of Lost yet. I beleieve that it also foreshadows the Oceanic 6 experience when they leave the island.
Comment 77, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Whoa Micheal on the boat? I would LOVE to see a screencap of that bad boy.
I’ve had the same CELL phone number for 8 years- it’s not too much of a stretch to keep the same house number.
And we don’t know how much time was going by in between Desmond going to the auction hall & Penny’s so it seemed pretty realistic to me. What was he talking about with the whole exponential thing? Smarty posters- care to help a non science girl out?
Did anybody else catch the whole Hanso mention as the previous Black Rock Journal owner? Reinforces the whole Hanso vs. Widmore theory.
Why would they ignore Penny’s calls if it was her father’s boat? It’s either A. not his boat or B. an order he gave them to keep Penny from Des (though honestly how can a father hate his daughter’s boyfriend THAT much? I know he didn’t like desmond but that seems a little out of control to me?)
Also- big thank you to the Lost writers, FINALLY an episode where I feel like things get answered. Now you just need to spill about the 5000 other mysteries involving the island : )
I refuse to acknowledge the idea that Sawyer dies because he is my biggest person-who-doesn’t-really-exist crush.
LASTLY (well for now- my head is still in a whirlwind…) where is Naomi? I was really disappointed we didn’t see her. & am I the only one who thought the doctor looked familiar?
Comment 78, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
prtp3warrior (35): agreed. i loved that. i liked how you (or at least me) kinda felt like desmond where you’re just like “what? how’d i get here? what’s going on?” it was a great idea (tho that is what he’s been doing before). and with minkowski it was REALLY scary and totally unexpected. and daniel? no way i woulda guessed that one (till daniel started talking to des on the phone, from there i knew he’s like des). and elouise was a great touch too.
> oh, i loved it when minkoswki “came back” and is like i was just on a ferris wheel. it’s like the perfect thing to go to.
> des is affected by the electromagnets (and possibly radiation from the implosion?). daniel by the radiation of his experiments. so what was minkowski and brandon affected by???
omar (48): yes, sayid is superman of the communication devices. the republican guard trains very well apparently. who else could fix that messed up of a thing and make it work? and penny having the same number for 8 years, makes sense but for whatever reason i don’t see her keeping a number that long (i know she’s not kate but it still doesn’t seem to fit her really) unless for some reason she took des seriously when he said the 12/24/04 and rememberd it somehow.
> i’m gonna have to rewatch this to make any sense of anything in this episode!
frank (60): yep, on a ferris wheel. probably eating cotton candy. :P
> des has been on the island for 3 years.
> i’m gonna take a wild guess and say ben knows how to go to and from the island w/o side effects, and the freighter tots don’t as they don’t live on the island.
Comment 79, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
Okay? It is 2004 on the island but is it 2007 real time (off island). Did Penny search for Des before is promised Dec. 24, 2004 call? Is the real call 12/24/07 (3 years later than he said)??
Comment 80, posted 6 months, 1 week ago - Quote and reply
As far as the touching scene at the end with Des and Penny goes, I have to share something with you all.
In the twelve years I have known my husband, I have seen him cry five times. 1) When we broke up temporarily while dating, 2) When his favorite aunt died, 3) when he was really sorry for something he had done, 4) when our newborn daughter required OPEN-HEART surgery and lastly, 5) when two fictional characters re-unite on a sci-fi show. Huh?
I looked over at him in utter disbelief. Pretty sweet.
Comment 81, posted 6 months, 1 week ago -