Something Nice Back Home
2 years, 4 months ago by WillRead more: No Tags
Tonight I am sure everyone will be on the edge of their seat as we wait to see if Dr. Shepherd can be saved from the perils of… Appendicitis? – with all the dangers of the Island, who would have thought a bum appendix could take out our beloved hero?!? Also, we should see if Locke’s crew has any luck finding Jacob’s cabin…
ABC’s Official Show Description
Spoiler Alert
“Kate and Juliet must learn to work together when Jack’s health is seriously compromised. Something goes wrong as Sawyer, Claire, Aaron and Miles continue their trek away from Locke’s camp and back to the beach.”
Tonight’s episode is a flash forward focused primarily on Jack, but will include Kate as well – not sure if this can live up to the adventures of Ben that we saw last week, but I am sure it will be good. Based on the episode preview, we can see that (somehow) Keamy survived the attack from smoky last week – and it’s probably safe to say he is that “something that goes wrong” for the rest of the gang as they head back to the beach.
Episode Preview
And a few sneak peeks are available here: Sneak Peek 1 | Sneak Peek 2 | Sneak Peek 3 | Sneak Peek 4
Comment 1, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
we can see that (somehow) Keamy survived the attack from smoky last week.
Amazing. Only on Lost.
Comment 2, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
I cheated I watched the sneak peeks. Are we allowed to discuss those?
Comment 3, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
lost4ever wrote:
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Can we talk about those yet?!?!?!
Comment 4, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Ahhh! It’s killing me…seven hours to go here on the West Coast!
Comment 5, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Lins wrote:
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Ouch. 4 hours here in Houston.
Comment 6, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Watch your tone, Red.
Comment 7, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
lost4ever wrote:
It’s about time someone put that girl in her place!!
Comment 8, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
1)who is red?
2)for those tivo-ing i heard the episode is going to run 1 minute over an hour.
3)this blog went from giving almost no info about the episode to just a little too much. does anyone else agree?
i can not wait for 1 hr and 45 mins.!!!
Comment 9, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
lostfreak wrote:
lostfreak – no harm intended on the episode preview; it is just one of those ep’s where the preview from last week gave away major plot points – we try to not go beyond that, but we’ll defintely be mindful moving forward
Comment 10, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Cool. A Will sighting.
Comment 11, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
sector7 wrote:
I’m around – typically blown away by the earth shattering, thought-provoking comments in these posts – mouth wide in disbelief and just trying to keep up, like everyone else I’m sure
Comment 12, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
sorry. i didn’t want to be rude i was expecting a little preview, yet got a huge one.
still, who is red!!!!(seriously!?!)
Comment 13, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
lostfreak wrote:
I watched the sneak peeks… can’t wait for the real deal soon!! Someone said “Watch your tone, Red” in a sneak peek so you will have the answer soon.
Comment 14, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
40 minutes.
Comment 15, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
lostfreak wrote:
Thanks for the heads up.
Comment 16, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
9 minutes!!!!
Wow, a will sighting! That’s as rare as a Boone sighting! :)
Comment 17, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
whats up losties…ten mins in houston texas…who is red??–clue–roses are red vilots are blue, the woman with the flower name puts scientist in blues={….
Comment 18, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
5 minutes on the east coast whos ready!! and JAIME thanks for the correction! it WAS Rachmaninoff! Don’t tell my sister who’s been playing his pieces for 15 years she’d be disappointed ha ha
Comment 19, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
2 more mins…..sayeed…..
Comment 20, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
why is greys anatomy still on????
Comment 21, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
jack n kate…i knew it..
Comment 22, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Trying to figure a timeline…this must be after the trial because Kate said “there is no us” until Jack is able to be around Aaron.
Comment 23, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Yes! Claires nice couple in LA!
Comment 24, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Hammer wrote:
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Think its before.
Comment 25, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Michael wrote:
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ANd i was wrong
Comment 26, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Michael wrote:
So the psychic may not have been a fraud after all. He was persuaded to shut up about his daughter coming back to life. BTW, there were whispers in the background of the audio tape of her autopsy. :)
Comment 27, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Hammer wrote:
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Maybe not… Have to check out that audio tape again.
Comment 28, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
I guess we now know for sure that the flash forwards are NOT in reverse chronological order. That is one theory we can set aside at least!
: ) P
Comment 29, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Hammer wrote:
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But its not meant to be Jack. Thinking Sawyer.
Comment 30, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
jack and Kate really are not the best candidates to be parents.
Comment 31, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
are you guys watching right now?
Comment 32, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
did Jack have a scar on his chest/stomach when he got out of bed earlier in the show?
Comment 33, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Michael wrote:
Not sure what you mean, but yes there were whispers during the autopsy…maybe you mean the psychic is still a fraud?
Comment 34, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Maybe I’m just seeing what I want to see, but I wonder if the whisperers are showing themselves….Charlie, Christian….
Comment 35, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Hammer wrote:
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Yes the i mean the fraud.
Comment 36, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
did anyone notice if he had a scar?
Comment 37, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Really. there gonna have Jack turn in to his dad.
Comment 38, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
CLAIRE!!!!!
Comment 39, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
NO! I don’t want Jack to turn into his dad. That would be terrible.
Comment 40, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
does anyone really believe that what Hurley said is true?
Comment 41, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Julie wrote:
We know what he turns into from the 1st FF.
Comment 42, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
ok that show made no sense, a waste of an episode, we didnt learn anything new other than jack has some serious problems, and what happened to claire? and what was kate doing for sawyer?
Comment 43, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Which flash forward? I don’t remember…
Comment 44, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Julie wrote:
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NO!
Comment 45, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Hammer wrote:
Which flash forward? What does he turn into?
Comment 46, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
omar wrote:
I agree. I’m disappointed.
Comment 47, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
What the heck would Sawyer want Kate to do?
Comment 48, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Hammer wrote:
You mean like the whispers are really the voices of the time travelers speaking to people living in real time?
Comment 49, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Julie wrote:
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A desperate drunken drug filled mess that can’t handle the real world anymore.
Comment 50, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
lost-on-mars wrote:
And how would he get in touch with her?
Comment 51, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
omar wrote:
i think kate was (possibly) taking care of aaron off island for him bcuz whatever happens to claire since he’s been so protective over her lately (and what’s up with her leaving aaron?).
besides you didn’t know who red was before this either! and it’s about time somebody threatens red! go jin.
Comment 52, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
I think Hurley was telling the truth. This seems to be some kind of a dream sequence.
Comment 53, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
omar wrote:
I’m with you omar. That ep sucked! I mean… Nice to see Bernard getting more screen time, right? Maybe next week we will get a Steve centric ep. The big build up to Christian and — no answers whatsoever. Total let down!
Comment 54, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
omar wrote:
I guess we were watching different episodes because while this was not a “sit on the edge of your seat” episode, I found it both entertaining and compelling.
We learned that flash forwards do not occur in reverse chronological order.
We learned that Kate and Jack got their happy “not quite an” ending.
We learned how Sun and Jin will be separated.
We learned something about Claire and Aaron’s separation.
We learned that Miles hears whispers – perhaps they are always there, but average people only hear them on the island.
We learned that Karl and Danielle are, indeed, dead.
We learned that most of the freighter guys survived Smokey (I counted five, and I think Miles thought there were six).
We learned that smoke alarm beeps sound mysteriously like the computer’s countdown beeps as it approached 108 minutes.
We learned that Christian can appear in SOME form OFF the island.
We learned that Charlie has appeared in SOME FORM repeatedly to Hurley.
We saw the beginning of Jack’s downward spiral.
We can look the S3 finale flashforward with new eyes – Kate said in THIS episode “for him” with the same tone and timbre that she said “he’s waiting” meaning that perhaps she WAS referencing Sawyer.
So yeah… I learned a lot. Then again, Omar, I think you have had similar reactions to a number of episodes. Were I a catty person, I might say more.
: ) P
Comment 55, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Hammer wrote:
OMG I completely forgot. They drag this show out so much it’s easy to forget stuff.
Comment 56, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Julie wrote:
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Well that may be, but Christian also showed himself to Claire. It might be Smokey, but my guess is that we will soon learn abaout the whispers. In the transcripts, they wanted to show themselves to the Losties, I think they are slowly doing just that.
Comment 57, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Some things seem to be falling in place from this episode:
We know at the airport when Kate says “I got to back to him”, she meant Aaron and not Sawyer.
Why Jack is in serious disarray from the break-up.
Miles can really hear ghosts
Comment 58, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
PJSander wrote:
Comment 59, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
lost-on-mars wrote:
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Another thing implied is that Jack knows that Aaron is his nephew….when he tells Kate “you aren’t even related to him.”
Comment 60, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY
Comment 61, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
We need to look at that box score closely. Should be able to tell us an exact date.
Comment 62, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
PJSander wrote:
Yep, I’m with PJ.
Comment 63, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
sector7 wrote:
True.
I guess we’ll find out more next week. (Or sometime in the next two years *G*.)
: ) P
Comment 64, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Who is that new, weird looking dude in the previews for next week’s show
Comment 65, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
PJSander wrote:
don’t remind me there’s only 2 short years left!
Comment 66, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
lost-on-mars wrote:
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Good Question…
Comment 67, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
lost-on-mars wrote:
Sorry, L-o-M, but we don’t discuss previews here! I think that late on Thursday afternoon, once the new blog page is posted, it is less frowned upon, but otherwise *sshhhh* please!
Many of us work hard to AVOID spoilers, including those “coming up on the next episode” previews. (Tonight’s was hard, though, because there was NO break between. I couldn’t hit the OFF button fast enough!)
: ) P
Comment 68, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
lost-on-mars wrote:
No talking about previews. Save it…I am….
Comment 69, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Hurley told Jack that someone was going to visit him… soon… Christian Shepherd.
Jack catches a glimpse of dad in the hallway. Late at night he sees Dad in the waiting area, after the SMOKE alarm goes off… (HELLO – Smokey?)
Claire sees Christian and is lured away from Sawyers’ beddown area. We’ve never seen that she knows who daddy is before – he stopped visiting when she was tiny. Jack still doesn’t that Claire is a sister… as far as we know. If he and Kate marry, then he’d be raising his nephew as his son.
Who did Kate see that upset Jack? She admitted it was for Sawyer. The phone call where she said ‘we could meet for an hour’, that Jack overheard… I think she said it was Noreen (???) part of a moms’ group. What if it were Cassidy, mom of Sawyers’ daughter, Clementine?
Juliet was sweet. Throwing Kate the ‘I kissed Jack’ bone. Guess Bernard learned about first-aid in the Army as well learning to shoot. Insight from Rose about how people get better on the island, not sicker.
Lots of good anti-Charlotte sentiment this episode. Rose and Jin both. Wonder why Daniel went into fertility station first? Just cuz he likes Charlotte? or to snoop? Still not sure I trust Daniel. Don’t trust Charlotte one iota though!
Miles deserved a smackdown too. Letting Claire wander off. But he did keep his mouth zipped when Lapidus and Keamy went marching thru. Odd to see so many mercenaries still alive after the Smokie beating.
Comment 70, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
DocH wrote:
Maybe a little odd, but we’ve seen Smokey retreat before…I think someone managed to get Smokey off of Locke once?
Comment 71, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
RAY wrote:
I think Jack says that is – because he helped Claire deliver the baby, not Kate! We still have not seen where Claire & Jack learn they have the same father, if they do at all.
Comment 72, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
DocH wrote:
Bernard is a D.D.S., right? He has some knowledge regarding surgeries.
I guess the conversation is coming where Christian tells Jack Aaron is his nephew and that leads to Jack backing away more?
Comment 73, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
I don’t know what show everyone is watching but….
Claire DOES know who her father is and what he looks like and Kate WAS the one that helped deliver the baby, not Jack.
Comment 74, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
SERIOUSLY THIS EP. LEFT ME MORE CONFUSED…BUT STILL ON THE EGDE OF MY SEAT……I DON’T GET IT AND ALOT OF THINGS WERE POINTED OUT BUT THEN IT BROUGHT UP ALOT OF QUESTIONS………HMMMMM NEXT WEEK I SUPPOSE WILL KEEP ME ENTERTAINED, BUT I NEED MY LOST FIX NOW…….I DVR IT SOOO I’M GOING TO WATCH AGAIN……….LOVE YA GUYS
Comment 75, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
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Odd to see so many mercenaries still alive after the Smokie beating.
Hammer wrote:
Yeah… Jack tossed some unstable dynamite down the ‘vent’ that Smokey was dragging Locke in to.
The mercs were shooting at Smokey, screaming a bit, crying, wetting themselves… you know – standard mercenary tactics. [;^)
Comment 76, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
DocH wrote:
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I took it as a teaser. We thought he was going to say “…I am…” but he just stated the obvious…Kate is NOT related to Aaron.
Comment 77, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
The only thing I can think of that Kate can be doing for Sawyer involves his daughter. I am still wondering what it can be. Apparantly they left everyone behind and claimed that they were dead. The rest of the survivors must still be in the island. I hope jin is there and that was a just a gravestone we say Hurley and Sun visit.
Comment 78, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
DocH wrote:
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I respectfully disagree. I think the way he says it implies that he knows that he is Aaron’s nephew. You are right in that we have not seen an episode where that is revealed. However, (it’s my theory) in that scene he already knows. Jack says, “YOU are not even related to him”….implying “like me…I’m his uncle.”
Comment 79, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
DocH wrote:
I thought Claire met Christian and learned he is her father after the car accident that Claire was in with her mother. Christian was at the mother’s hospital bed and told Claire he was her father, also she learned that he was covering all her mother’s medical expenses. I remember him too trying to talk to her in a shopping mall and she didn’t want anything to do with him.
Comment 80, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
tasha wrote:
Yes, but she doesn’t know his name.
Comment 81, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
sector7 wrote:
Good catch. That slipped my mind.
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How about Hurley – All a dream – talking about heaven?
Comment 82, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
DocH wrote:
Hammer wrote:
Yeah… Jack tossed some unstable dynamite down the ‘vent’ that Smokey was dragging Locke in to.
The mercs were shooting at Smokey, screaming a bit, crying, wetting themselves… you know – standard mercenary tactics. [;^)
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LMAO. But it does appear that Smokey can be twarted. If it were a perfect security system, the island would never have intruders.
Comment 83, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
DocH wrote:
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I don’t believe any of it is a dream. He is paying the price for leaving the island. So is Jack. IMO a matter of time before Kate and Sun are obessing as well.
Comment 84, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
RAY wrote:
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I think in this ep Jack thinks of Aaron like a son, and finding out he is his uncle will make him feel weird (I’m thinking Springer-like) and stand-offish.
I like the theory that Kate is doing something related to Clementine. I think that will also make Jack want to distance himself.
Comment 85, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
I think Charlie might be just a little jealous and that is why he told Hurley that LOL.
Comment 86, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Well if Kate can’t leave the state, what would be the odds of her living wherever Clementine is? I still don’t get what she could be doing for her besides giving money. I mean…she acts like Aaron is everything but leaves him with the nanny to be doing stuff for Sawyer? It’s a little odd. My brain is fried:(
Comment 87, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
sector7 wrote:
Yeah, it looks like Jack stayed away, then changed his mind, then changes it again and separated from Kate and Aaron again. He might have known along based on Kate’s comment at in courthouse parking lot “I know why you …”
Comment 88, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
One thing that made me laugh, in my own warped, can’t remember a damn thing, mind. Jack sitting outside of the mental hospital in his 4-wheel drive. It was after dark, hours after his Hurley visit, he was right in front of the benches that Hurley communed with Charlie. I was wondering if his was contemplating sitting on those benches… in order to get the ‘visitor’ that Hurley said would be there soon. (?)
Comment 89, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
DocH wrote:
I thought that too, then I thought he was waiting to see if Charlie showed up. Heh, heh.
Comment 90, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
DocH wrote:
You were due…you’ve corrected us so many times…kharma. :)
Comment 91, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
PJSander wrote:
Are we watching the same show??? MOst of things we had ALREADY learned from previous ep!!!!!!
Comment 92, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
i don’t think jack changes his mind again, i think kate will kick him out (in the ff).
good catch on the smoke alarm and smokey DocH (c69.
tasha (c73): whew, i was starting to worry i wasn’t watching the right show. ;) (c85) you’re probably right, he got jealous when locke was hanging out with aaron and claire so jack would make even more sense. lol
Comment 93, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Nice star wars plug with the millennium falcon.
Looks like the sox article was written by gregg wilson. No reference on google. Probably the LA Times, right? I dunno — they probably just made it up.
Comment 94, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Hammer wrote:
Heck, *I* was waiting for Charlie to show up! I expected him to open the door and get in the car!
: ) P
Comment 95, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
sector7 wrote:
There is/was a writer for the New York Daily News named Greg Wilson. But he does/did political news including an article about the new Yankeee stadium. Don’t know if it’s significant.
Comment 96, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
I am thinking more and more that the clandestine Kate meeting was about Sawyers’ kid Clementine. Kate and Cassady did have a pre-island connection..
We last see James holding an abandoned child in the middle of nowhere. Now he is daddy James… always had parent issues… lost his folks early on… no child left behind James.
Maybe his ultimate ‘redemption’ is resolving that no child should grow up without a parent/parents, so they don’t wind-up like him.
If Christian does represent the island, maybe Aaron was supposed to stay on the island, as the new Jacob. And what was said or done to Claire that she would EVER leave Aaron in the tree trunks… Those trunks look like the ones that people hide from, or are protective of, Smokey.
Comment 97, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
omar wrote:
I respectfully disagree, Omar. We SUSPECTED a lot of those things from previous shows, but they were not confirmed until tonight. This episode gave us a lot more pieces to the puzzle and gave us the chance to put some theories to rest.
: ) P
Comment 98, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
DocH wrote:
I took it as Christian showed Claire “the way” and she had to make sure Aaron got off the island. The psychic originally said she had to raise the Aaron herself, then IMO someone persuaded him to take Aaron to LA. Maybe Christian helped her see fate?
Comment 99, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
PJSander wrote:
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Sometimes the show has to slow down and just give us some info to tie up loose ends in order to move forward. It’s another chapter we need. It wasn’t an awesome break neck speed episode, but riveting and needed.
Comment 100, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
omar wrote:
I agree to some extent. But I don’t think they actually told us what you suggest we learned before… we just assumed we knew what we learned. Tonight they “TOLD” us what they taught us(confirmation). I think they did it so we could terminate some of our collective theories. NOW, we have more focus and can concentrate and extrapolate on all of the new revelations they are getting to cram down our throats in the last 4 hours of the season – 4 hours that will have to get us thru to Jan 09.
Comment 101, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Best thing abt this ep was Kate in her panties.
Comment 102, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
DocH wrote:
Hyper
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can’t
catch
my breath
AGGHHH!
: ) P
Comment 103, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Hammer wrote:
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I’m trying to get us a date reference from that article. When did the Yankees bludgeon the Sox in a series? Has to be ’05, ’06, or ’07. What matchup during those years was a Yankee bludgeoning? I’ve been surfing trying to find something… Any baseball geeks out there?
Comment 104, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
sector7 wrote:
such a guy (rolling my eyes)….
Comment 105, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Bedtime for Bonzo. Gotta drive to Milwaukee from D-Town tomorrow. I’ll be checking in on laptop w/at&t broadband (gotta get my Lost fix).
But, I leave you with this to ponder….
(think Tattoo from Fantasy Island)the Whisperers are coming, the Whisperers are coming.
Comment 106, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
sector7 wrote:
Shhhhhhhhh, trying to sleep.
I half tried, but gotta go to bed. Look for series sweeps between 04 and 08, may have happened more than once. August 07 is the latest one I think….
Comment 107, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
I saw this elsewhere….but i had to say something. That IS a creepy picture hanging on the wall at their house when Kate is in her panties!!! I just showed my husband. Wonder if there is a significance….
Comment 108, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
sector7 wrote:
lost chicka wrote:
This is where you jab back about Jack rolling out of bed and (barely) wrapping a towel around his waist.
About that, my recorder crumped and I am without replay… Did any notice if Jack had an appendectomy scar in his FF?
Comment 109, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
DocH….I saw some screen caps and he had a scar.
Comment 110, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Hammer wrote:
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There was a 5 game sweep in August 06 that is considered a major whoopin’. Nothing really in 04 or 05 that I can find.
Now let me sleep. Check back tomorrow….snoring….
Comment 111, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
first off…kate’s body! WOW! and producers were showing it off in this ep. and did i hear a lisp from her?
second…am i in the minority when i say that i wanted kate to end up with sawyer. i think the writers are making a huge mistake if kate ends up with jack.
and jack does not know that aaron is his nephew…AND doesn’t it seem like the first FF happened after this season’s FF??? looks like he’s still got his practice and he’s doing well…and i think meeting with CS will send him into the condition we saw him in in the first FF.
another strange but weird theory…anyone notice when miles says to sawyer “what are you her brother…?” talking about sawyer and claire…THAT i thought was strange…and i started thinking fight clubish (did i lose ya’ll???)….very very strange by the writers…cuz we were all like “no, you doofus he’s not her brother he’s taking her to her brother…”…
and my theory about claire is that she’s gone…as in boone gone and that hot blonde gone…
elephant in the room for this season has been “why are the scientists there…what is red doing there? she has served no purpose so far…the only person with a big question mark…”
i didn’t like this episode much but we needed an episode or two like this one to bring up more questions…rember we still got 2 years to go…so we can’t have answers every ep.
Comment 112, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Will wrote:
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Sorry if I broke the rules ( unlike Widmore who just “changed them” ).
Comment 113, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
I THINK THE WEIRD LOOKING DUDE IS JACOB. HE SAID HE’S BEEN DEAD FOR 12 YEARS!
Comment 114, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Hammer- please stop in Kenosha on your way either to or from Milw for a LAA meeting!
Comment 115, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
I loved how Aaron is found at that same tree we have seen before so many times before. I don’t know what the symbolism is but something happens at that spot. I know that was the first place we saw Smokey. I think that’s were Charlie was hung as well.
Comment 116, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
First time posting long time reader.
I thought it very strange that Miles was able to hear Karl & Danielle and find their bodies but when Sawyer asked Miles in the morning about Clair he did not seem to say he SAW anyone. I realize that Christian said nothing and it seems Miles can only hear the dead. But does this mean that people who die on the Island because of the time difference are not dead until they catch up to the off island time? Christian died a few days before the crash and if the time is different then he maybe has not died and therefore Miles cannot commutate with them? Im confused cause Karl & Danielle both died on the island and so did Naomi and he was able to hear them. But why not Christian? I think there is something going on here.
Comment 117, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Julie wrote:
I think he probably told her before they left. It sounded like Jack was saying that people *were* left on the island…
Comment 118, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
ALLAN wrote:
Allan, please read the blog rules. No preview talk dude. Might help to watch season 3.
Comment 119, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
wish i were lost wrote:
I don’t know — I kind of think that’s just a convenient place for them to shoot a scene.
Comment 120, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
I disagree with the majority of bloggers about the group of Lapidus, Miles, Daniel, and Charlotte. They did not come to the island to help the Losties, but they have no intention of harming them either. I trust all of them with making the right decisions when facing life or death situations. In this episode, both Lapidus and Miles did that. And in the past episodes Daniel has done that as well. Charlotte seems a bit on the grumpy side, but underneath she has a big heart that I feel will be revealed in her flashback episode.
I believe by the comments Jack made about Kate not even being related to Aaron he revealed he knows he is Aaron’s uncle.
My thoughts on Jin making sure Charlotte take back Sun on the chopper: First, he wants to take care of Sun and the baby. Second, he feels he needs to be on the island to protect those still left behind. I think he realizes not everyone can get off the island at the same time and he has good survival skills.
Comment 121, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
DocH wrote:
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I always yell at the TV about how come no one forces them to talk!! The Losties always let the subject drop. I forgot what the instance was this epi but Daniel’s always on the verge of spilling but then doesn’t. I know we probably won’t get answers until next season ::rolls eyes::, but come on! Oh, yeah, it was when Charlotte was like, they think we’re killers, so might as well play the part. I was so happy Daniel shot her down because that was such a lame thing to say. Stop keeping secrets and people might actually start to trust you. And then Miles was like, I didn’t sign up for this. How come Sawyer didn’t demand to know what exactly he did sign up for?? Ugh!
Comment 122, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
tasha wrote:
Looks like a man standing alone in or next to water…with his reflection (only his refelction is upside down). I’m sure it was some tiny hint about something…..obviously Kate made a comment about Jack saying nice things about his dad in front of the painting. The black (smokey) man in the painting could just be another finger pointed at Christian and the smoke monster. We saw another reference when the smoke alarm battery was dying and Christian appeared. Or maybe it is just really bad art and cheap batteries.
Comment 123, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
kathy wrote:
I think Miles did see CS because he said “She wasn’t alone” and “I would have followed them…”. I think its just that no conversation (verbally or mentally) occured between Miles and CS.
Comment 124, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Ok, so maybe I was looking too hard. But did I notice that when Jack went to visit Hurley, that the door was locked from the OUTSIDE? The doctor had to let Jack INTO the room with a card/code. But Jack just opened the door to leave. If a psych ward, they would lock Hurley IN the room. Sometimes they are locked from the hallway also, but they wouldn’t want the “patients” to just wander. Who is locking who from whom?
Comment 125, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
The Kate/Jack/Sawyer plotline is in the ditch.
I prefer the sci-fi items – secret of the island, Valenzetti numbers, etc., but the “love triangle” is always intriguing. Unfortunately, I think they overplayed their hand in season two. I’m not advocating for pablum, but there are certain storytelling parameters and audience trust issues that they have disregarded, and it has taken the legs out of this particular “soap” plotline, for me anyway.
When they allowed Sawyer and Kate to have a real relationship, cages and beyond, Jack’s furtive fawnings for Kate made him seem pathetic, petty and dislikeable, and her switch back to Jack makes Kate look like the town bicycle. Essentially, the writers have betrayed the Sawyer character, a character they spent quite bit of effort enriching. Seems foolish.
Oh well, it’s just dressing.
* Valenzetti – end of the world – safe haven – Aaron is the key
Comment 126, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Did anyone else crack up when Sawyer called Miles “Donger”? Best line of the night
Comment 127, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
docjock wrote:
I don’t know. Call me girlie but I don’t mind the triangle. I just don’t like that Kate’s seemingly playing Sawyer because I love Sawyer. But I like Kate and Jack together. Well, not the unhappily ever after part their future seems to take on. But I think it does still bring something to the storyline. Granted, I am more interested in learning more about the sci-fi mysteries of the island but I don’t mind the Jack/Kate/Sawyer thing-for now anyways. I’m just glad Juliet’s out of the rhombus.
Comment 128, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Hammer wrote:
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August ’06. Nice work, Hammer. Was A-Rod a major factor?
That time frame makes sense going by the apparent age of Aaron.
If we determine this is the time frame, what else does this tell us?
Comment 129, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Hey, usually theres 100 more pages of comments to read, whats up!? I’ve got hours left here at work. ANYWAY… long time reader, first time poster… any one catch the sweet peaks at kates limbs last night? Yeow!
Besides that, I believe the love triangle and the sci-fi aspect are about to meet head on. Think about what Hurley said about being dead, and about how Jack isn’t supposed to take care of “him” (aaron?)
What caught my attention was Jack saying to Kate “I’m the one who’s here.” (etc.)
Remember Charlie said “yes, I’m dead… but I’m also here.”
Not sure where I’m going here exactly, but I’m always intrigued by the wandering dead aspect. Dead who don’t know they are dead. Perhaps a seemingly well done appendix operation, didn’t turn out so well after all?
Man, Kate does have amazing legs though :)
Comment 130, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Good Ep, not a great one but it still answered some questions that were in the back of my mind…did anyone notice that Jack had another Tattoo on the underside of his arm? Has that always been there or is that new??
Comment 131, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Why did Jack say to Kate that he’s the one that saved her?
So this is post-Kate’s trial and pre-Jack with a beard…but where does the flash forward from earlier in the season with Hurley fit in? The one where they played horse? I’m assuming it’s after that since Hurley still seemed pretty normal then.
Rose’s comment to Bernard was interesting about how people get better on the island, not sick. Maybe only people who are chosen, who are meant to be there get better and the people the island are trying to get rid of get sick.
I’m still confused about what exactly Charlotte and Dan and Miles are all doing there and why they were hand picked by Abbadon to go on the mission with Naomi. If their mission was really to get Ben, it seems like Keamy and crew could have taken care of that…why did they really need a physicist and an anthropologist? I can see needing Dan to shut off the gas, but he seems pretty useless after that and Charlotte hasn’t done anything except be rude and complain.
Comment 132, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
I remember an episode where Sawyer tells Kate about his daughter and says he has some money he wants Kate to transfer to Clementine. Anyone else remember that?
Comment 133, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Hurley sees Charlie, Jack sees his Dad who else from O6 will start seeing dead people who they never resovled issues with???
Comment 134, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Dan is there to chart the course/deal with the time shift.
Miles is there to speak/commune with Jacob.
Charlotte is there to decipher the Temple, et al.
Comment 135, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
docjock wrote:
I can see where you’re coming from…I guess it would make more sense if they actually seemed like they were doing something instead of just sitting around Camp Jack and lying to everyone. With the exception of Daniel and Frank, they don’t seem like they’re doing their job. Hopefully we’ll get to see what they’re really there for soon!
Comment 136, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
re: the triangle
It’s not the triangle I mind, it’s what I perceive as a storytelling flaw in the execution of the device, and what they are asking of the viewers in regard to “camping” with the three.
Comment 137, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Who was Kate on the phone with?…were the writers just trying to show Jack’s paranoia? Was the person she was talking to the same him she had to get back to from the airport in last season’s finale? Is it Ben?
In last week’s episode with Ben and Sayid, he was obviously playing on Sayid emotions to manipulate him to do his work…that creepy smile after they talked in the alley-thing. Maybe Ben is somehow manipulating Kate to do his bidding also.
Comment 138, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
I thought it was pretty cool when Miles heard the whispers in the jungle…it did not really freak him out like it did other people…I guess the ghost whisperer thing let him to understand what the jungle whispers were trying to tell them…and I think he said that he could see Christian, right?
Comment 139, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
It is so tough not being able to discuss previews here…I know who the “weird guy” is…was pretty sure and confirmed it for myself on Lostpedia.com…anyway enough of that!
Comment 140, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
adriennez wrote:
I don’t know that he heard the actual whispers that other Losties have heard before. They were much more audible than previous whispers and you could tell it sounded more like a re-play of what happened to Danielle and Karl instead of someone or something trying to communicate something with him. I think maybe just since he has a special connection to the dead and they were basically standing right on top of their graves that he was able to hear them and hear how they died…kind of like he did with Naomi.
Comment 141, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Lucky wrote:
I don’t remember an episode where he told Kate that but I could be wrong.
Comment 142, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
wally p wrote:
Yeah maybe….it’s only their mind at the island or back in civilization. Isn’t that what happened to Desmond and what Daniel was doing. He didn’t physically send the rat in the future. Just the mind. At this point it can be anything.
Comment 143, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
adriennez wrote:
Yes, but we have to stay away from temptation, my wife didn’t forgot who he is too.
Comment 144, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
GUP wrote:
If I get a weak moment, I’ll pop in. :)
Comment 145, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Lar wrote:
Yes and I LMAO.
Comment 146, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Juliet telling Kate about the kiss with Jack and how it was for him was a good nod to the total lack of chemistry during that kiss. I thought it was bad acting, but now I see that perhaps it was intentional.
I believe the order of the Jack/Hurley/Kate flash forwards are
Kate’s trial
Jack & Hurley play horse and Charlie visits Hurley
Jack & Kate get engaged and Jack visit Hurley
Jack & Kate meet at the airport
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Comment 147, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Lucky wrote:
Sounds familiar to me, but I haven’t found it. All I can find is this about the money:
After learning the location of Munson’s stolen $10 million and turning the information over to the Treasury Department, Sawyer instructs Agent Freedman to use Sawyer’s commission to open an account in any Albuquerque bank under the name of Clementine Phillips.
Comment 148, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
I did some baseball research..we are a bunch of baseball nuts in this family…Boston beat the NY Yankees in the 2004(flight 815 crash year)American League Championship…they went on to beat the St.Louis Cardinals to break “the curse of the Bambino” and win the 2004 World Series. I guess this was the tape that Ben showed to Jack when he was the Others prisoner. The American League championship took place from Oct.12 to Oct.21 and the 2004 World Series was played Oct.23 to Oct.27. Flight 815 disappeared on Sept.22 2004.
Here is something coincidentally weird…2004 was ARod’s first season with the Yankees…Yankess third basemen Aaron Boone(!)had suffered an injury and there was an opening at third base so he agreed to switch positions from shortstop(which was Derek Jeter’s position). ARod set a bunch of new records with the Yankees that season. Jack says something about ARod when he is looking at the newspaper.
I guess some kind of time travel thing would have had to happen for this to have been all happening in 2004…
I am still a little confused on the flash forwards…last season’s finale flash forwards with Jack and Kate seem to have taken place after the ones which we saw last night.
I cannot remember exactly what the newspaper article Jack was reading said…does anyone else?
Comment 149, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
I had a thought about Sawyer and the island. I think it is possible that Sawyer got off the island and is living in secrecy (a la Michael/Kevin). Maybe Kate knows Sawyer is off island but Jack does not. In that case, it is possible that Sawyer and Kate are in contact, both on the phone and in person.
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Comment 150, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Three things:
1. I saw at least two references to Jack’s control issues – once during the appendectomy and also when he is quesitioning Kate about who she visited. The tight shot on her face during the latter scene hints that she is finally realizing Jack has a major character flaw.
2. Hurley’s dilemma is yet another example of the living/dead theme. I remember in the very first season, one of the theories of the show was that everyone died in the plane crash but not everyone realizes it.
But Hurley also questioned whether they were dreams and questioned reality itself, which remind me of Buddist philosphy. So, yet another religious theme!!
3. Lastly, there were at least two tight camera shots on the Millenium Falcon. Does anyone have an idea what this might mean, other than the obvious allusion to space travel?
Comment 151, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Lins wrote:
The whispers were more audible because of his abilities…maybe that is what the whispers are…replaying something that happened at another time…that is what I was trying to say. We do not really know yet what they are but that a few different people have heard them and they usually seem to come right before an “other” pops up in the jungle.
Comment 152, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
O.k…i just have to say i was wrong wrong wrong. I sat there last night after the ep realizing that sometimes I get distracted from the simplicity of the show. I create these complicated theories in my head and I let them build and build. If Jack/Kate was in fact the spectacular kiss we have been hearing about, then i was way off base. I just assumed that it was to easy to think it could be them.
I guess LAA isn’t working for me…maybe i need to go to Santa Rosa :)
Comment 153, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
spiralturtle wrote:
What is the Millenium Falcon? Is that the toy that Jack stepped on in the beginning of the episode?
Comment 154, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Another thought…a couple of episodes ago…Ji-Yeon…Hurley flies to Korea to see Sun and the baby and attend Jin’s memorial…he was together enough at that point to get in a plane and fly across the world but in last night’s episode he seemed pretty loopy…
Comment 155, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
3. Lastly, there were at least two tight camera shots on the Millenium Falcon. Does anyone have an idea what this might mean, other than the obvious allusion to space travel?
Oh! I got this from Lostpedia: Luke Skywalker was raised by an uncle (Jack/Aaron), and Luke and Leah didn’t know they were brother and sister.
Comment 156, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
adriennez wrote:
The headline was Yankees blugeon Red Sox in series sweep.
Comment 157, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
adriennez wrote:
Good points — I’ll add that there is believe to be a phenomenon called a psychic imprint, where if something tragic happened, the energy created by the event can stay in place and “replay”. So Miles may have heard the psychic imprint.
Off subject here, I have a stupid question — what’s a donger?
Comment 158, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Sawyer has become so protective over Hurley (last week’s episode) and Claire and Aaron. I was watching some episodes from Season 1 and he has come such a long way. Do y’all have any idea what might have triggered him to become so protective?
Comment 159, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
A small Millenium Falcon toy was on the counter when Jack walked in the house…my husband kept going…that is Kate’s house and figured it out right away. It was a much smaller version than the one my son has…and I do not know how many toddlers are into Star Wars…my littlest son is but only because his big brother is…anyway, the toy being somewhat mini-sized reminded me of some Lost theory I read somewhere(maybe here)about the island being a miniature world and people being shrunk down in size…I don’t know about that…or maybe it is just in a land far, far away!
Comment 160, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
spiralturtle wrote:
For me it was just homage to Star Wars, they needed a toy to hint to us that there was a child in the home. Since they are big Star Wars fans…
Comment 161, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Juliet reminded me of Ben. Just the way she took over the whole situation as Ben did last week. I can definitely see her still working for Ben. Did anyone else notice a strange look between Bernard and Juliet? There is more to Bernard. D.D.S my A.S.S.
Maybe the whole appendicitus was just a ruse to implant Jack with something? I like your timelines PJ. Now if we can just figure out where the rest of them fall in place. At least we now know that there has been no reverse order to them. I think?
Comment 162, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
So freakin’ funny…in the 80′s movie “Sixteen Candles”…an Asian character called (questionable spelling here!)Long Duc Dong was an exchange student with Samantha’s family who gets caught up in the whole high school party scene and goes wild. At some point he starts calling himself “the Donger”.
It was just one of Sawyer’s funny nicknames…this time for Miles.
Comment 163, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
spiralturtle wrote:
Donger was an Asian fellow in the movie Sixteen Candles. His actual name was Long Duc Dong and they called him the Donger.
Comment 164, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Is it me or do they never really show a good view of Aaron’s face? When Jack was reading the bedtime story to Aaron, the camera was kind of at an angle, and then when he came into the living room when Jack and Kate were arguing Aaron was sort of covering his face with his stuff animal and then Kate was blocking him when she went over to hug him. So we never really get good views of what Aaron looks like.
Comment 165, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
lost4ever wrote:
I so agree…I do not think I will ever really trust Juliet. I had the exact same thought about some kind of implant inside Jack!!
Comment 166, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Bailey Loves Lost wrote:
Actually I remember a pretty clear face on shot as he was sleeping. No the didn’t have that “look” people brought up before.
Comment 167, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
I really like the character Frank Lapidus! He seems to have no other reason for joining the freighter expedition than finding out what happened to Flight 815 since he was supposed to be the pilot. He is the only one who seems to actually be looking out for the losties…maybe he is even working for or with someone else off the island who is looking to find out what happened to a loved one from the flight…we do have some connected people there.
Comment 168, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Hammer wrote:
Excellent find Hammer. A 5 game sweep would be considered a “bludgening” by many sports writers. Did we just see more evidence of the whispers theory or what?
I am not sure if Miles physically saw Christian or just overheard the conversation between Claire and her father. There was no proof either way. She said “Dad” outloud.
Comment 169, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Maybe the island is trying to puni8sh jack for leaving. He is not supposed to leave yet he is trying to get everyone off. Island is punishing him?
I think Sawyer may be so protective because his whole life has been revolved around killing Sawyer(Locke’s dad). Now he has accomplished it and now has nothing else to live for. Everyone has to have a life purpose and Sawyer now does not have one. Claire and Hurley all have become like family to him. The only family he has. It may be something he has always wanted but has been to blind to see. He may look at Hurley and Claire as like his brother and sister, that could be why Miles asked him about being her brother. He seems to be protecting them the way someone would protect their family.
Comment 170, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
adriennez wrote:
I agree. Afterall, didn’t he know the pilot of Oceanic 815? I think he was actually supposed to be the pilot. So I couldn’t imagine Lapidus wanting to harm the Losties. Part of me doesn’t think that Lapidus, Miles, Daniel and Charlotte are there to do harm to them. The one I really don’t trust is Charlotte.
Comment 171, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
I thought when they were first showing Aaron laying on the bed and Jack reading to him that he looked A LOT like Claire, maybe that is why they shot at that angle. No major storyline reason, just showing continuity between the real mom and Aaron.
Comment 172, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
deangoodes wrote:
I did notice last night that he looked A LOT like Claire. Then again they made that clear at the end.
Comment 173, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
PJ Sander- WOW. We actually learned a lot. Thanks for the Recap. It would have been very hard, IMO, to follow up last week’s episode. Did we also learn about the “spectacular kiss”?
Comment 174, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
This is just a mention to last week’s episode. When Hurley said at the beginning of this season to Jack that he should have never gone with Locke, could he have been referring to going with Locke and Ben to find Jacob?
Comment 175, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Sawyer screaming at the end “Claire, Claire, Claire” reminded me of Michael “Walt, Walt, Walt”
Comment 176, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
JohnCML wrote:
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I’m still reading before I leave my thoughts, however, I had to sneak in a post now to compliment you on your use of who and whom. Nice job.
Comment 177, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
lost4ever wrote:
I am wanting the the appearance of Charlie and Christian to be evidence that the Whisperers are starting to show themselves(like they said that they wanted to in the transcripts).
Comment 178, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Bailey Loves Lost wrote:
Excellent point. Maybe something really bad happens to Hurley on the way to or at the Cabin.
Comment 179, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
A few things i was thinking about.
1. Stars Wars toy..i think has to do with the fact (as said above somewhere) that Skywalker was raised by an uncle as Arron was being raised by Jack
2. I’m thinking that CS is taking Claire to Jacob’s cabin
3. Jack asked for a presciption of Clonazepam the same drug Hurley was taking.
4. The X-ray Jack is looking at is of an osteblastoma (tumor) on the L-4 vertibrate..familiar? Ben’s tumor was also on the L-4.
5. Jack was reading Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland to arron…i was wondering if anyone knows the exact part of the story he was reading.
6. Miles told Sawyer he was “good with kids” interesting.
Comment 180, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Most of the episode titles seem to have more than one meaning. The obvious meaning for this ep would be Kate at home for Jack. Any thoughts on a different meaning? Maybe Jin making sure Sun gets home, making her his “something nice back home?” Just guessing….
Comment 181, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
If Kate was doing something for Sawyer off the island, why should she feel the need to hide it from Jack?
Comment 182, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
I don’t think hiding it from Jack was for her benefit, I think she said that Sawyer didn’t want Jack to know.
Comment 183, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Lins wrote:
I think this is extremely important. The only other main character that we have seen get sick is Ben. I think Rose’s comment was supposed to remind us of this and provide a connection between the two characters.
I agree that the falcon was to show that this was Kate’s house. This is important because Jack received the work call on the home phone, so this relationship has been pretty serious for a decent amount of time now that he is having work call at Kate’s house. This is interesting too, because it looks very different than the place where Jack was when he saw Hurley’s car crash on TV. At this point Jack was already drinking pretty heavily (he spiked his orange juice) but this is before Hurley is in Santa Rosa… and therefore (presumably) before last night’s episode occurred.
Comment 184, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
aside from title references, bernard specifically said to jack “don’t you want to be knocked out, thing of something nice back home”
my big question: if jack isn’t supposed to be raising aaron, and CS visits him back in the “real world” after Hurley tells him this, why the hell would CS lead Claire away, presumably leading to the reason kate and jack are raising aaron?
Comment 185, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Quite simply, what if Charles Widmore is Ben’s constant and vice versa?
More thoughts like that at http://robotindisguiseblog.blogspot.com/
Comment 186, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Aaron looks like a miniature version of the kid on “2 1/2 Men”.
Is there any way that this set of flash forwards can be before Kate’s trial?
Can Jack accept Aaron as in this episode, then reject him later, as he seems to in the Kate-centric episode?
Just asking because many have theorized that the sequence of flash-forwards in reverse-chronological.
Comment 187, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Something else about the surgery that is interesting, Jack told Juliet that she was shaving two inches above where she needed to operate….
Comment 188, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
I had another thought with the Millenium Falcon and Star Wars references in the episode…maybe it is saying something about fathers and sons…alot of that in Lost. Jack is being a surrogate father to Aaron who is actually his nephew. In Star Wars Luke Skywalker is raised by his uncle(and aunt) and later finds out that his father is someone who was basically an immaculate conception and started out with a mission to do good but was turned to do evil’s bidding.
Sounds kind of like the manipulations and twists and turns of Lost.
Comment 189, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Tim wrote:
I thought that Kate said something to the affect to Jack that she was glad he changed his mind, or came back, or something like that. That would make me think this was after the trial. Because Jack also said to Kate that he saved her(?). I don’t think I have the wording right, but it was something along those lines.
Comment 190, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Tim wrote:
Jack mentions the trial to Hurley, so this has to occur afterwards.
Comment 191, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Tim wrote:
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I think it was stated “after the trial”.
Comment 192, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
oh, and I just have to say: I LOVE me some Rose and Bernard! They are the freakin cutest couple and I’m so glad the writers have been showing Bernard’s hero side….I wish they lived next door to me and I could hang out with them!
Comment 193, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
I wonder why Keamy and the other bad people who killed Danielle and Karl took the time to actually bury them? I’m wondering why they didn’t just leave them there.
Comment 194, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Bailey Loves Lost wrote:
I expect that is more about leaving the door open for casting. Think about flash forwards and flashbacks that may show Aaron. If we have too much time to concentrate on his features, it will be more difficult to accept another child playing him in the “future.” Conversely, this child-actor is growing, so if they want, NEXT season, to show a flash to something that happens immediately AFTER the stuff we saw last night, it will require a different toddler to play Aaron.
: ) P
Comment 195, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
PJSander wrote:
:-) Good point!
Comment 196, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Hey guys love the analysis so far. Here is my input. There are alot of questions going around about the people from the freighter and why they are working together. I think if you put it into context with the info we have been given it makes sense. They are all working for Widmore sho put the expeditoin togehter obviously to get the ilsnad back under control. It is assumed that Widmore is affiliated with Dharma and used to be in the mix of the control of the island somehow. Right? I believe all the scientific and paranormal investigators from the freighter were never meant to make a return voyage. Thats why the mercs are there. Teh mercs are there to get Ben and get rid of anyone that has any knowledge of the island to keep it safe including our litlle dynamic foursome of Miles, Dan, Frank, and Violet. They were chosen because they knew to much about the Dharma experiments so they were perfect pics because they had the knowledge and needed to be gotten rid of to protect the island. It also seems like everyone that makes it back to the “Real World” eventually starts having visions in one form or another. Like Widmore with the scothch by his bed, Jack, Hurley. I wonder what kind of visions Bens having? And if all the other Oceanic 6 will suffer the same fate.
Comment 197, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Wow – great observances everyone. Here are the ones that stood out most to me:
- Kate’s tooth was one of the first things I noticed. It seemed odd – Evangeline L. has such a pretty smile everwhere else.
- There were moon and stars on the fridge and hanging above Aaron’s bed.
- Then there’s the Mil. Falcon – two nods to space. Or star wars nod could be due to the fact that luke and lea were not raised by their parents.
- Maybe Sawyer didn’t want anyone to know that he had a kid. Kate might be hooking up little Clementine with her inheritance.
- But why did Sawyer “choose” to stay on the island – to protect the other who wanted to stay?
- Like the smoke alarm going of when Christian appeared – a nod to smokey.
- What was up with the Christ-like set up of Aaron in the jungle. Reminded me of a manger scene.
- Kid’s monster drawing on the fridge like the one in Aaron’s bedroom.
- How we heard the “shots” that killed Carl and Danielle – what else has Miles heard on the island that he hasn’t shared yet?
- What was the point of Juliet telling Kate about her kissing Jack and then saying to Jack – I know you’ve been awake. I didn’t get the last part of doing that.
- Hurley saying that Jack is going to be “visited” next. Reminded me of the Christmas Carol – ghosts of Christmases – past, present and future. Do we have visits by losties past? And was Christian Jack’s visitor?
- Is Hurley right? Are they all dead? What else has Charlie told him – he says they just sit together.
- Where did Christian take Claire. Are Claire and Christian going to meet up with Ben, Locke and Hurley at Jacob’s cabin?
That’s all for now! What a great show. It didn’t have as much action as it did last week – but it still rocked!
Comment 198, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Also did anyone get a count of how many mercs orginaly came onto the island? Becasue yesterday I could have swore I saw 6 and that is how many I thought originaly were there.Did you also notice the wound on the merc that they were caring? It was the same merc that got dragged into the jungle by smokie in last weeks episode and the spot where smokie grabbed him looked all burnt and mangled but he was still alive. Why is smokie so good at killing losties but not mercs? Anyone else notice?
Comment 199, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
omar wrote:
are u serious?-AWESOME episode
Comment 200, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Does anyone recall how many Losties were actually killed by Smokey?
Comment 201, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
lola wrote:
i think kate was checking on sawyer’s daughter
Comment 202, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
- What was up with the Christ-like set up of Aaron in the jungle. Reminded me of a manger scene….
Or Moses.
Comment 203, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
http://defamer.com/386621/another-lost-mystery-how-does-the-island-affect-body-hair
Hilarious !
Comment 204, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
I thought last night’s episode was pretty good. The thing I found interesting was that both Jack and Hurley seemed to be back in the same place where they were before they ever got to the island. Hurley was back at a mental clinic talking with “imaginary” friends. Jack was back to abusing substances, being overly jelous/ suspicious/ paranoid about what his woman was doing. Kate was the only one that has appearently been changed by the island experience. UNLESS there is something behind her phone conversation.
Comment 205, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Bailey Loves Lost wrote:
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Eko and the Pilot Seth Norris? Or was Seth Norris killed by a polar bear? And many many trees!
Comment 206, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Okay, so maybe everyone else has already figured this out but Jack’s father’s name is Christian Shepherd – which is a not-so-veiled reference to Jesus – Christ the shepherd?
If we found out that he paid his way through med school as a carpenter… *g*
So we have
Charles Widmore
Charlie Pace
Charlotte Lewis
Christian Shepherd is a CS and
Charlotte’s first two initials are CS
hmmm….
: ) P
Comment 207, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Maybe Smokey isn’t so good at killing people. He’s only killed two in the whole time he’s been there, and if you hide in those trees he can’t get you. He could have gotten Locke that time that Locke just stood there and stared at him (don’t remember what season that was), but he didn’t. Maybe he just wanted to scare the people?
Comment 208, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
PJSander wrote:
All beging with “CH” lol
Comment 209, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Bailey Loves Lost wrote:
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And actually Charlotte and Charlie are forms of Charles…
Comment 210, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Miles was staring at Aaron, not Claire.
Comment 211, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
adriennez wrote:
It crossed my mind also that she was actually talking to Ben, not Sawyer, and had promised Ben that she would do something.
After reading these posts, however, it does seem more plausible that she’d doing something for Sawyer/Cassidy/Clementine.
Comment 212, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
DocH wrote:
I am sure Roses’ comment meant something, but we did see Sawyer extremely ill. He was shot of the raft. Floated back to the island. Captured by Eko/Ana. Got a real bad infection. Barely made it back to the Swan. Got treatment and still nearly died. Took weeks to get better. Seems like the island made no effort to cure the infection.
About operations and Jack getting knocked out and then implanted with something, while that could be… a devious Bernard/Juliet with an absent Kate… didn’t Sawyer have an episode on the Hydra Island with Ben?… wasn’t that the threat of a defib implant that could stop James’ heart, like it did the bunnies’? How about all of the gals that got the “fertility clinic” treatment from Juliet and Ethan? Did they get implanted with some type of device?
Comment 213, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Wait a second. Maybe she is doing things for Ben but just said Sawyer, because she didn’t want Jack to know who she was dealing with.
Comment 214, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Well if she is doing things for Ben, isn’t it possible that she could be helping the Losties left on the island, like Sawyer. Remember Ben telling Sayid something about “You want to help your friends, don’t you?” So if she was working for Ben, she could be doing something for Sawyer….
Comment 215, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Laura wrote:
So is it a possibility that the “Kate & Jack” we saw last night happened AFTER Jack has already gone through his drinking/drug problems? Maybe he has already cleaned up by the time he and Kate get serious. That would explain Aaron’s age.
Comment 216, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Bailey Loves Lost wrote:
She just seemed a little too happy and flirty on the phone to be talking to Ben…IMO
Comment 217, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
deangoodes wrote:
bernard asks jack if he isn’t sure he would like to be knocked out before the appendectomy dreaming of something nice back home.
Comment 218, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Tim wrote:
It seems like that might be, the ones not working for Ben seem very troubled. So far Sayid seems “okay” and Kate does too…maybe right.
Comment 219, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
“Noreen” was apparently the name for a British cipher machine…
Also, good point about Sawyer, however I feel like Ben/Jack’s issues are different because they are “random”. Sawyer got sick from getting shot, just like Boone (and others) have gotten seriously injured/sick from things that have physically happened to them. As Rose pointed out, Why did Jack get sick now? Nothing has happened to cause this, is just ‘randomly’ happened.
Comment 220, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
I dont think this timeline is before jacks drug and alcohol problems started. They spent alot of time showing jack make that drink in the episode where Hurley gets busted and he barely puts any vodka in it at all. I think they did that to show he was starting to drink but a far cry from having a bottle of whiskey and a few beers sitting in front of you.
Comment 221, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
jophelias wrote:
I don’t thinks so, Hurley made the comment about Jack changing his mind about Aaaron.
Comment 222, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Lins wrote:
Who knows what happens between Ben and Kate. He may have set her up with adopting Aaron. I also remember that she has great criminal skills. She’s robbed banks (playing the victim), run cons, blew-up a house, good with weapons, knows mountaineering/tracking. Sayid has massive skills too, that go hand-in-hand with Ben’s FF missions. Kate & Sayid are operatives for Team Ben in FF-world. Jack & Hurley are not and are suffering the consequences (no vaccine for you!). Sun probably has her father’s protection, vis-a-vis a deal with Ben to leave her alone.
Comment 223, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
DocH wrote:
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I’m not saying she’s not qualified to work for Ben, she’s pretty hard core…but the way she was talking on the phone, it just didn’t sound like she was talking to Ben. Remember how Sayid communicated with Ben on the phone in The Economist? It was all very CIA-ish, this seemed more like a friendly call than business. But who knows…if only we knew what her and Ben talked about at that beach breakfast!
Comment 224, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Some of that is true, but I recall her just being hooked up with the wrong people in some of those criminal activities. Right?
Comment 225, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Laura wrote:
That’s the thing about appendicitis, total randomness. Heck, the way the Losties have been eating, living, stressing, mourning, etc… for the past 100 days, I am not surprised that they don’t have more folks out of commission with intestinal malaise (parasites, amoebic dysentary…).
Maybe it is ‘All in the Water’, ala Hammer-man?
Comment 226, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
deangoodes wrote:
Oh no, I think she was the mastermind behind those activities. She blew up the house to deliberately kill her dad, she ran the con in the bank to get the lock box with the plane in it, she used Cassidy to get time to talk to her mom, she learned the tracking and hunting from her military “dad”…like I said, she’s pretty hard core!
Comment 227, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Lins wrote:
My thinking is that it was Cassady, but I won’t rule out Ben either. She could be flirty with Ben, not out of personal interest in Ben, but out of self-preservation for herself and Aaron.
Translation: Flirt with Ben = keeps Ben off my back. We’ve seen her fake flirt lots of times. Happy smile, eyes smile, head tilts… then when its over she turns away, scowls, squints an eye and flares nostrils.
Comment 228, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
DocH wrote:
Maybe it is in the water…mine ruptured. Not fun.
Comment 229, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
I know everyone is weird about the whole coffin thing and bringing it up, but if she is working with Ben and Ben may be in the coffin why wouldn’t she go see him?
I don’t even understand who or what Ben is. Do we know yet for sure who staged the crash at the bottom of the ocean. Some people say Whidmore…some people claim it is Ben. Maybe I missed something somewhere. Ben just seems to be so powerful for some dorky kid that killed off Dharma.
Sorry I guess this has nothing to do with the episode. It’s just you watch one episode and your mind starts spinning about everything.
Comment 230, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
why was Hurley getting all emo talking about Charlie to Jack? when he “saw” charlie he wasnt emo like that. maybe its because he didnt blink the whole time i talked to jack? hehehe..
when jack got out of bed, i did not see any scar to indicate the appendectomy. all the more reason to watch this episode again. i didnt even know that Bernard was a DDS, and what is a DDS?
just wanted to point out that jack’s character flaw of being super jealous and having trust issues is because of what happened in his marriage with the blonde neck fixer upper girl. i dont recall him being like that before, (or they never showed it) but i just wanted to say that its a result of a past situation. he is perfect in every other way ;p
i think at this point he also knows that aaron is his relative, why else would you bring up such a point, randomly?
sawyer and jin either died back at the island or are protecting those that decided to stay there. i cant think of what locke is doing, maybe the next ben?
where is alpert and the rest of the ppl? we have yet to see the temple…sigh so many questions!!!
it was sort of a disappointment that this episode did not follow the intensity of last week’s episode, considering also that the first half of this season was pretty much nonstop action packed episode after episode. i guess they need to slow things down a bit so we can catch our breath and take it chill. next week better be back to high intensity!! i love talking to my tv!!
Comment 231, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
kathy wrote:
Check out abc.com for the lost missing pieces clip that shows christian moments before the first scene of the first episode……
Comment 232, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Regarding the baseball article in the paper; in the five game sweep in 2006 that was mentioned earlier, a rod went 7 for 21 with five rbis but no home runs. for those of you that dont follow baseball, this is a decent series but no reason for jack to bring up a rod. we may need to find another sweep!
Comment 233, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
DDS – Dentist
Comment 234, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
I think Jack is afraid he is going to lose Kate the same way he lost his first wife and that is why he is quizzing her. To find out if it is a man she is talking with.
I think he has a good idea who it is and wants Kate to admit it.
And she seems to feel if she tells him what she is up to, he will be very upset. That’s why I can’t see how it is just her visiting Sawyer’s daughter.
Unless there is more info we are missing.
Comment 235, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
DocH wrote:
DDS is generally referred to as Doctor of Dental Science (aka Dentist, Periodontist, ‘Jaw Breaker’) meaning he has the medical skills to administer anesthesia for Jacks abdominal surgery, get the local shot, stitch the wounds, sterlize the incision site, pass the surgical tools to Juliet, etc….
Good point about Jacks’ marriage. Last nights episode reminded me that we saw his ex-wife in the far future flash-forward where Jack says ‘we have to go back’. Funny how he was going to marry Kate in the story last night, but they appear to never get any closer – because a year (or so) after the Kate proposal – he still has his ex-wife Sarah listed as his ‘emergency contact’ with the hospital. He never changed it to Kate, even though he was living with, sleeping with and proposing to Kate in this FF. hmmm-
Comment 236, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
I think that whatever happens to Kate and Jack has something to do with Jacks visitor and what Hurley tells him in the hospital about not “raising him”. Maybe Kate has a visitor to and whatever she is told forces her to split away from Jack even more. Maybe a manifestation of Sawyer?
Comment 237, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
From the news article concerning the red sox/yankees “The sweep was more emphatic last August, when the Yankees rampaged into Fenway Park and won three games to bury the Boston Red Sox. The best the Yamkees could do this time was to win three at Yankee stadium and chisel a cuhnk from Boston’s sizable league in the American League East.” The article goes on to state that Curt Schilling was the losing pitcher and Robinson Cano hit 2 home runs. the Yankees won 5-0.
Comment 238, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Curt Schilling lost to the Yankees 5-0 on August 30, 2007. In that game Robinson Cano hit 2 home runs. ARod was 0-3 in the game, with a run, walk and sstolen base. Nothing to spectacular. If that date is correct, how old would that make Aaron?
Comment 239, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Dub8er_e wrote:
MAYBE THAT IS IT! JACK SAYS SAWYER STAYED BEHIND AND MAYE THEY ALL DIED. SAWYER IS kATE’S DEAD FRIEND THAT COMES AND VISITS HER AND HE ASKED HER TO DO SOMETHING! YES! I KNEW THERE WAS AN EXPLANATION!
Comment 240, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
lost4ever wrote:
Calm down. Sometimes a look is just a look. I’m all for getting into theories, but please, Juliet and Bernard conspiring with Ben to topple all the Losties? Come on.
Comment 241, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Can someone help me with something? Didn’t Jack say in the first flash forward…something about if anyone went and checked his father, he’d be even more drunk? As if Christian was alive and well? All this time I was assuming that somehow Christian was alive in future. Someone clarify for me?
Comment 242, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Love’s Labour Lost wrote:
I dont think I ever stated that. But why would it be that far-fetched that Juliet is still working for Ben?
Comment 243, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Love’s Labour Lost wrote:
lost4ever wrote:
Her single objective for three years has been to get off the island and get back to her sister. And with Ben hitting on her and putting Goodwin at deaths door, I’d say she could still be loyal to Ben, JUST to get off the island, not in support of his ideology.
Bernard? He is thee last remaining Tailie in the Lostie camp. Maybe he was abducted by the Others, brainwashed, and returned to Tailie beach camp to wreck havoc on the Losties. Doubtful though as he killed Others (w/ Jin & Sayid) as they raided the Lostie beach camp. Juliet also went to save the raid captives w/ Sawyer & Hurley.
Comment 244, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Bobbi wrote:
By the time that scene happens, Jack has seen the apparitiion of his dead father at least once, probably more. Someone who is seeing their dead father (and probably speaking to him) might say something like that, don’t you think?
Someone else mentioned that Sawyer might be dead and visiting Kate — but what about Jin visiting Sun? Now that makes sense when you think about how Sun thought she would see him when she was giving birth, no?
Comment 245, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
lost4ever wrote:
Check this out. http://www.buddytv.com/articles/Image/LOST/egg410-newspaper.jpg
Comment 246, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Given the information in the article, there is only one viable date for time: August 31, 2007. Given Aaron’s birth on November 1, 2004, and ignoring any relative time distortions, this would put Aaron at around 2 years and 10 months old.
Comment 247, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Im not sure who asked this or if it has been answered but Jack DID have a scar. You could see it when he picked up the razor when he was by the sink and Kate was taking a shower.
Comment 248, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Angel wrote:
Still wouldn’t surprise me if the island completely healed it. Same thing when we didn’t see Locke’s bullet scar… Rose knows.
The island can heal and the island can make you sick. Maybe it made Jack sick because he’s trying to leave. Maybe it made Ben sick (his cancerous tumor) and we don’t know why?
Maybe the island is making Jack a pill-popping drunk because it wants him back.
Comment 249, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
sector7 wrote:
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Comment 203 has a link. In the bottom middle picture there looks to be a scar.
Comment 250, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
sector7 wrote:
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That’s where I got comment 237 from. Aaron looks about 3.
Comment 251, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
deangoodes wrote:
That is a direct quote from Bernard when he was telling Jack to dream before putting him under.
Comment 252, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
When Jack got the phone call from work, what exactly did the lady on the other end say to him? It was something like, “I know how important your calendar is to you”. Is he having issues with remembering dates because of the time warp? Did she say it because he is hung over all the time? Not sure what she said but I am sure it was significant.
Loved the show!!! Rose rocks!
Comment 253, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
ha ha. very funny.
Comment 254, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Bailey Loves Lost wrote:
I think smokey only kills when it wants to, and for a reason. It seems like it could have easily killed Locke in season 2, and Juliet in season 3. Or Jack, Charlie & Kate in the pilot. Must not have killed the mercs for a reason.
Heard it somewhere else, but, how about the smoke alarm going off? Smoke(y) is what sets them off, right?
Comment 255, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Nice call, Donger. You rock!
Here’s one to chew on: Claire didn’t know her dad had died.
Comment 256, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Hey Donger, wouldn’t it be wierd if everyone disappeared from this blog the way Claire disappeared last night? Donger? Donger! Donger!!!
Comment 257, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
4815162342 wrote:
I brought up the most recent sweep in post 106.
Comment 258, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Hammer wrote:
Yep. You deserve the credit for that one. Found it in your sleep no less.
Comment 259, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
PJSander wrote:
.. And “Red” speaks Korean !
Comment 260, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Great episode.
Juliette working for Ben…I believe it could be.
Aaron definitely could be close to 3…thanks for the research on the baseball article.
So, we know Sun gave birth (approx 6 months post island), Hurley visited and was fine…two years later he is crazy and locked up…
Wouldn’t surprise me to have Kate doing something for Sawyer but getting the info from Ben….
Why did they make red know korean…why does that matter to the story line?
Love the “can’t let Jack move, appendix might rupture” so he is up and walking to his OR tent.
Did Jack want Kate in there so Juliet wouldn’t do something wrong (implant the device that was “implanted”in Sawyer…)
Loved the “its too early for chinese…” line.
Can hardly wait until next week…really, Jin is alive!!
Comment 261, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Do you think that Red works for Mr. Paik? (Is that the right name… Sun’s Dad?) I don’t trust her at all. I hope they tell more about her soon. She is always so snotty!
Comment 262, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
in an earlier episode (first part of the season, I think) there was a FF (?) of Daniel sittin in front of a TV looking kind of nuts and medicated and crying. There was a news report about finding the Oceanic flight. What was that all about? What’s he crying about?
Comment 263, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
nicunurse wrote:
They needed a creative way to set up the separation of Jin and Sun, though I guess since Jin is getting good with English, she didn’t need to know Korean.
Comment 264, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Hammer wrote:
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At least they gave her something to do, some reason to be there. I think one of the reasons nobody likes her is because no one knows anything about her except that she found a polar bear in Tunisia. That, and she has a snotty attitude. She is starting to remind me of Nikki.
Comment 265, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
HI! Here goes:
1. Juliet: Maybe I’ll end up blind-sided for this in revelations from future episodes, but as of now….Gotta love her! I feel the need to defend her. She along side Sawyer have greally grown to become big favorites of mine. I think she’s totally in love with Jack so that is one reason why she wanted to save his life. Her kiss and tell to Kate was a formal—yes, we both love him, but he truly loves you, Kate, and I’m stepping out of the triangle. I saved him for me, but for you, too. She made sure Jack heard it to get him to “wake up” and go after Kate!!!! Maybe a bit of redemption for her own devastating affair with Goodwin? The shaving….well, doesn’t a doc normally shave a large area around an incision area??? She’s alright…I think after the Goodwin murder and dying, pregnant women, she’s against Ben. She warned Jack about Ben’s jealousy. She’s chomping at the bit to get back to her sis and nephew to share in her sister’s happiness. She totally wants to see Sun get off the island to get some redemption for the loss of the pregnant women that so devastated her. Maybe even giving up her own rescue for Sun?
2. Jack: He darn well knew he had apendicitis (sp?). He was a stubborn mule about it, trying to pass it off as food poisoning to Juliet. Come on! Well, yes, maybe he has decided he doesn’t trust Juliet anymore and wanted to risk it as opposed to letting her mess with it. I go with the stubborn theory, though. Wanting to control the operation himself? C’mon, Jack! Get a grip! Good for Juliet telling Bernard to “get him out of here!”
Did any ponder how Jack immediately engaged Kate after Hurley’s foreboding? His reaction seemed to indicate he already knew/had been told of what Hurley said (by Christian?), Hurley confirmed it, and he wanted to immediately intervene and control it/fix it so it wouldn’t come true, for sis Claire’s sake and Aaron’s!
Jack’s interrogation of Kate, re: phone converation….jealousy??? Nah! They are totally true loves! He has been very hands-off about the whole Kate/Sawyer thing. I think the phone reaction was an “oh, great, island crap and lies coming up again!!!! What now? Can I fix it/control it?”
3. Lostie lies?: Okay, so are we getting into Losties covering up lies to fellow losties? Are there lies upon lies? I still can’t help but think Sun is covering up something about Jin to Hurley, and now Kate covering up something to Jack.
4. Kate: Yes, so who was she talking to? Any remote possibility Kate was talking to Sawyer?
5. Errand for Sawyer? Well, I can only think of Clementine, too. His money? I really think Sawyer may let that go. Maybe Kate would give money for Clementine since she got a “substantial settlement” from Oceanic. Sawyer’s money is dirty money from his dirty past. He changed. I don’t think he’d want to give his dirty money to his daughter now.
6. The 4 tots: Want to know more about them.
7. LOL—Star Wars thoughts:
Luke Skywalker was raised by his Uncle Owen and Aunt Veru. Aaron is being raised by his uncle Jack??? Half-uncle? I felt like we got the hint in this last episode with his “You’re not even related to him! (but I am!?)” lash out to Kate that Jack has found out he’s related to Aaron. Good ‘ol Uncle Owen knew the dark secrets of his brother/Luke’s father, Anakin. Is there some dark secret about Aaron?
Sawyer does seem a bit Han Solo-ish lately. The Millenium Falcon was Han Solo’s ship. Could this be an indicator we’ll see Sawyer come up again? When Sawyer and Kate were locked up together by the others, it seemed remniscent of Han Solo and Princess Leah locked up together..
Comment 266, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Rita wrote:
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She might work for Paik as Trixianna suggested. She does seem very snobby. She has lied to them from the very beginning when she told them “we are here to rescue you”, when she must have known, like Faraday, that was NOT their mission. She might, however, be turning the corner. We will have to wait and see if she “saves” Sun, as she told Jin she would.
Comment 267, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
lost4ever wrote:
Sorry Trixanna
Comment 268, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
JamieGirl wrote:
.. And the “spectacular kiss”. Was that the off-island kiss that D&C were talking about?
Comment 269, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
I thought the term “Smokie” was just a fan created nickname for the monster, and not that it is actually made of smoke, can anyone confirm that it is actually made of smoke? I also thought somewhere in the podcasts D&C made a reference to the fact that the “Smoke” monster is not quite made of smoke.
Anyway that may dispel the idea that it was setting off the smoke alarm (which wasn’t exactly being set off, just beeping because the battery needed replacement).
I don’t think there should be any doubt that this episode is BEFORE the Jack Meltdown. This is episode where we see how Jack began getting his pill prescription, the female “doctor” (lol, j/k) had no problem writing him a prescription, whereas in the later flash, he is sneaking around with it, using his pops as a ruse.
I thought the reason that Miles heard Danielle was because her spirit was trying to prevent them from heading the direction they were going (was Karl’s talking too?) as her yelling, “no, no, no, etc.” did NOT occur when she got shot. Plus, Miles seems to talk to dead folks as if it is conversation, not as if he was following a trail.
Comment 270, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
sector7 wrote:
True. But when Jack says that to the other doctor in the scene, it was like there was no dispute. As if others could see Christian too, right? Jack says something about Christian being upstairs in the hospital ‘working’ and the other doctor didn’t even debate it.
I’ll agree its possible for Sawyer to be visiting Kate. But I don’t think Jin/Sun meetings are taking place. If Sun was visited by Jin, I’m not sure she’d go visit his grave and talk to him about how much she misses him-seems like she’d just wait for him to visit again. Also, she spoke to the grave as if she must’ve been loopy when asking for him while speaking about the birth.
Comment 271, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
D and C on Kimmel
Comment 272, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
I’m going to need a few of you folks to sit down for this, but the impending, and probably Actor’s strike could push back Season 5 even further!
Comment 273, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Bobbi wrote:
Comment 274, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
sector 7 wrote:
Comment 275, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Rousseu & Carl….nothing stays buried on the island
At first when Jack was feeling ill…I thought he was experiencing a rift in time like Desmond….that’s why he kept insisting -almost to himself – that he was dehydrated since that can lead to hallucinations.
Didn’t Claire get sick on the island too?
I like the theory that Charlotte is on the island, in part, working for Mr. Paik. As a result part of her mission: to keep Jin on the Island and away from Sun.
Comment 276, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
lost4ever wrote:
Wow. Did anyone else watch that tonite? Interesting…….
Comment 277, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
I was thinking that Bernard telling Jack to think of Something Nice Back Home was an indication that Jack’s flashforward is actually in his past. As I have posted before, my theory is that Jack has travelled back in time to the island and is reliving island events without knowing it. This would make sense because in his off island life he still has his flaws and hasn’t learned the island’s lessons. In the pilot episode Jack wakes up in a way very similar to how Ben woke up last week in the desert. And Jack tells Kate that he blacked out and doesn’t remember the plane crash. Kate, in contrast, remembers the whole thing.
The whole appendectomy scar, however, is confusing because he doesn’t have the scar on the island before the surgery. The scar must be significant though because there was no other reason for the extended towel scene in the flash forward except to show us Jack’s appendectomy scar.
Comment 278, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Cutley wrote:
Oh my, that’s quite the good thought. It would explain a LOT.
Additional thoughts:
1) Jack has no scar, but I’m not sure that means anything. Locke has no scar either and when they remove your kidney, they about cut you in half. He should have a huge, highly visible scar.
2) I think that Hurley, sad as it may be, is quite crazy. I don’t believe the six are dead. I was one of the “the surviors are dead” theorists in season two, and we were told specifically by the producers that the losties are not dead. Unless, like Whitmore, they are changing the rules as they go.
3) I was thinking about what would cause Kate to keep such a secret from Jack, knowing how badly he would react to that refusal after she told him that involved Sawyer. I thought of two possibilities: 1) by helping Sawyer, she is doing something illegal and placing herself at risk by breaking the terms of her parole or
2) she was talking to Ben on the phone and that he is manipulating her bond with Sawyer. She would never tell Jack if she was in contact with Ben.
4)An FYI – the drugs that Jack asked for are a benzodiapine – medications that are typically prescribed for issues of anxiety, and less typically insomnia. They can be highly addicting, and a very poor choice to drink alcohol on top of – a really addictive type of behavior. With his future downward spiral a la other FFs, clearly this is his jumping off place. This combo of drugs and booze is going to create a really flat affect, impulsivity and poor judgement, so yeah, Jack’s happy place is going all kinds of south.
I just can’t decide if it’s because he saw his dead dad or because he has taken to heart the prophecy of Charlie, and that he’s “not supposed to raise him.” Maybe he is terrified that his happy life is going to be torn away from him, that they were better off staying on the island and that they made the wrong choice because that wasn’t what the island wanted them to do. I think that Charlie is not a benign ghost – he was so jealous in life – why not death?
Comment 279, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
And oh yeah, I forgot….
I’m not buying that Daniel is all that good either. That dealio between him and Red – seemed just a bit too good cop/bad cop, plus outside the medical station, that look that passed between the two of them seemed to have significance to me. I’m not convinced that he’s a bad guy, but I completely believe that he’s holding secrets and that he has his own ulterior motive for wanting to be on the island. And if the losties get in the way of his accomplishing that goal, I don’t doubt that he will look at them as so much chattle.
Also I’m not sure that Jack getting sick is highly significant. I know Rose believes that everyone that comes to the island is healed, but why then do pregnant women die? (Not that pregnancy is an illness, but still…) Maybe it is another faith vs. science issue.
Comment 280, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
I think Kate is having to work with/for Ben. Maybe in return for getting to raise Aaron or the sweet deal she got on the murder charges. She never says she is talking to or meeting Sawyer..it is always “him.” But that she did do a favor for Sawyer. I would guess meeting Ben and doing whatever he wants her to do (ala Sayid) is a favor for Sawyer if that is why Ben is allowing Sawyer to remain alive. Jack considers Ben to be the “bad guy” so to learn Kate is working with/for him would totally mess with his mind.
Claire did know her father. But does not know He is also Jack’s father. Jack’s father was in the casket on the plane that Jack found empty. Why wasn’t Claire a little puzzled as to why her father showed up on the island? Could Claire actually be dead from the blast? Miles could see Christian because he does “see dead people”.
Comment 281, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Just had another thought…instead of Jack’s “visitor” being his father….which we all saw coming miles away. Wouldn’t it had been cool if Claire had been Jack’s visitor?
She could have revealed the whole “my father is your father” bit…thereby ensuring Jack would feel even more guilt about the people he left on the island.
Also, I adore Hurley. I think he is so sweet and adorable. Perhaps the most innocent of all. Maybe that is why he is having more trouble than the others dealing with leaving everyone else on the island. I wish Charlie would help him cope with everything a little more. I don’t think Charlie would ever wish harm on Hurley. It has been said that the mad are just a tad bit closer to the veil between life and death…maybe that is why Charlie visits Hurley so often.
Comment 282, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
mardacara wrote:
I agree. The conversation when he said to her, “That is why they don’t trust us” seemed wierd to me too. I still trust him over her though. She is too sneaky somehow.
Comment 283, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Just because the O-6 survive does not rule out that some of the FREIGHTORS survive as well.
1) It is auspicious that Charlotte speaks Korean. It is not random. We will see her again and in relationship to Sun in Seoul.
2) The Kate-Clemntine connection makes sense for Sawyer. And, yes, she could be carrying out work for Ben…not likely given her tone on the phone. She was relaxed and intimate..that’s what sets Jack off..the tone.
3) Major questions: Who is alive? Does anyone die? Is Hurley wrong…really..or is simply in SHOCK because he has seen into the time-life-death loop?
This episode rocked. Some of the bloggers prefer the high action in the Shape of Things to Come..which was, indeed, brilliantly executed. But, wisely..LOST comes through with a balance of the philosophical and the complexity of the human condition. Otherwise, it would simply be a really good sci-fi action film. LOST has it all.
Comment 284, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Sector 7, that is what I was talking about. “get my father down here”. But he says.. something along the lines of ‘i bet he’s had more to drink than me’ (paraphrasing). But who wouldn’t think that means he were upstairs working. I’m so confused now.
Comment 285, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Trixanna wrote:
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Yes, I think it is clear that their imediate goal is to get the losties to trust them, to find out information, and Daniel sees Charlotte as messing that up. The look outside the medical station looked like “now we are getting somewhere”, like they are finally finding out what they are there to find out. I also agree with whomever said that the tots are on a one-way trip (and don’t know it). They are to be left behind also.
Comment 286, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
I keep coming back to the phone conversation of Kate’s that Jack walks in on too. Kate first lies about who she is talking to. Then, when pressed, all she says is “please trust me”, “you have to trust me”, over and over. Obviously, she knows that what it is that she is covering up is wrong, and would greatly upset Jack (that’s usually why people lie). She seemed a bit pathetic in her pleading. If I were Jack and saw that, I would be all the more suspicious and determined to find out what it was too. He wants to protect her and Aaron. How can he do that, with something so big and unpleasant hanging over Kate that she feels she has to lie about it? I don’t see it as Jack being a control freak like some of you do, but rather Jack trying to be the protector of those he loves, and being helpless to do so because he is being kept out of something huge and important.
Comment 287, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
tickles wrote:
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I kind of like this idea. It would explain some things, like why Claire is separated from Aaron in the future. Also, it might explain why Miles kept pressing her to let him take the baby (“I’m really good with babies”) resulting in Sawyer laying down the “restraining order”. Miles would also be less inclined to follow two “ghosts” into the jungle at night, I think. As for Claire, I thought she WAS surprised to see her father on the island. She had no way to know that he was also Jack’s dad, but I’ll bet she knows it NOW, whether she is dead or not.
Comment 288, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
tickles wrote:
He hears dead people but we dont actually know if he can see them.
Comment 289, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
lost4ever wrote:
I think we can assume Miles ‘saw’ Christian. The conversation we saw, only had Claire speak. Miles described she went in the jungle with some guy, that she called Dad. Christian was holding the baby. I think Miles saw them. Especially because he was extremely interested when Claire said ‘at least i’m not seeing things anymore’. He immediately perked up and wanted to know what she saw. I think he sees things too.
Comment 290, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
lost4ever wrote:
Comment 291, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
I don’t have any issues with Red. I think that her speaking Korean will be significant later. It’s like the whole sun speaking English. Jin could have just told her what he had to say in English….or her understanding might have something to do with the whole Daniel and her having a thing for each other. Regardless, we complained about Nikki and they killed her off. I really want to see why these 4 people were chosen to go to the island. Naomi didnt agree with it so they must be there for a bigger reason and I hope they dont die before we find out:(
Comment 292, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
tasha wrote:
I think Red was chosen to figure out the hieroglyphs, Daniel the time stuff, Miles the Jacob stuff, and Lapidus pilot stuff (?)
Comment 293, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
shells wrote:
Then why is Miles headed back to the beach with Sawyer, away from Jacob, rather than going to the cabin with Locke & Ben.
Comment 294, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Charlotte speaks Korean for a reason.
법 This is the symbol in KOREAN for DHARMA
Which means LAW. She is tied into Sun and her baby. We will see more of Charlotte.
Comment 295, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Bobbi wrote:
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I disagree. I wouldn’t assume to much. All that happened was they showed Miles sleeping next to Sawyer, then Claire seeing CS holding Aaron and saying “Dad”. That’s it. There is no evidence, YET, the he saw CS. JMO
Comment 296, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
tasha wrote:
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Is what they said on Kimmel last night considered a “spoiler”?
Comment 297, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
DocH wrote:
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He looks scared as hell and wants to get off the island. “I didn’t sign up for this”.
Comment 298, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Rita wrote:
Kate says “Yeah I’ll just have the nanny stay for an extra couple of hours”…. “Jack’s never home before 8 anyways”… “I could stay for at least an hour”.
Comment 299, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
After reading these posts, however, it does seem more plausible that she’d doing something for Sawyer/Cassidy/Clementine.
If Kate is meeting with Sawyer’s daughter’s mother so she can do something for Clementine, that will be great – Kate and Cassidy have already met. They’ll realize they’ve both been in love with him!! Can’t wait to see that scene!
Comment 300, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Rita wrote:
Comment 301, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
I really am starting to think that the four (charlotte, daniel, lapidus, and miles) were sent there for some purpose by Widmore. However, I think he chose those particular four so that he could get rid of them too. Charlotte obviously has some investigative intrigue into Dharma (the polar bear scene in Middle East). Lapidus was upset about the ‘lie’ of the plane being found under sea. Perhaps Miles also knew it was a lie since he has some death/life line capabilities. Anyway, I think the plan is for the freighties to get rid of those four or leave them on island. All four of them act as though they aren’t really part of the freightie crew, as if they are ‘guests’ along for ride. Even Lapidus was calling Keamy ‘sir’, as if he were lower on food chain than him.
Comment 302, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
lost4ever wrote:
I think he did sign-up for the Jacob part of it. When he said “I didn’t sign up for THIS”… in context… I believe he was referencing the Keamy/mercenary attack (murder Alex) part of it.
Polli Kovitch wrote:
I think fluency in many languages would be part of her repertoire as a PhD in ‘Cultural’ Anthropology. She spoke/read French in Tunisia.
If Korea/Paik is part of the Dharma legacy (her quest?), then maybe she is fluent solely for that reason. Not necessarily for Ji Yeon. —Naomi spoke many languages, Ben and Mikhail too.
lost4ever wrote:
I am going to say yes. I did not hear a single word the producers said, as I surfed in late. What I saw was the last clip they showed for next weeks’ episode. That easily qualifies as a preview (spoiler) for next week, and (should be) off limits. If Cuse/Lindelof talked about next week, or explained the clip, then I’d say that qualifies as a spoiler too. Now, if they discussed what we saw this week, or non-specifics about where the show is going in general, then I’d say ‘not a spoiler’ cuz, it would be like a ‘podcast’ then.
PS: I don’t know what else Kimmel showed, but WOW! What they did show was huge. Very entertaining and… WOW. I can see how you want to discuss it now.
Comment 303, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
DocH wrote:
Agreed on Miles. I will NOT discuss the preview i saw on Kimmel. It was very fascinating. However, Kimmel asked him about Smokey and the mercs and how were they still alive. Damon replied that smokey “has certain rules for certain people”.
Comment 304, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
lost4ever wrote:
I agree… not a spoiler. In fact, I think they may have mentioned that before… or something to that effect.
— I’m a curious to know Hammer’s opinion on this, or if Hammer saw Kimmel… then I remembered he is travelling this weekend and Milwaukee is near a Vile Vortice in Lake Michigan… we may never hear from Hammer again… or that there is a new character on the freighter… Hammer as ??? (replacement Doc, swabbie like Michael, replacement mercenary, new comm technician??? [;)
Comment 305, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
DocH wrote:
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Maybe Hammer was the one on the phone with Kate. And she wanted to meet him and find out what the whispers meant.
Comment 306, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
lost4ever wrote:
Oh we are so in busted when Hammer gets back on-line. We’ll be in trouble like a couple of teenagers who threw a party in their parents house when they went away for the weekend. He is gonna throw us in “The Brig” and lock us up tighter than a liquor cabinet on prom night….
Comment 307, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
(I posted this elsewhere yesterday, I’ll share it here… having seen the Kimmel clip.)
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DocH wrote:
Comment 308, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
DocH wrote:
That is too funny DocH!!! That should be posted somewhere… Lostpedia??
Anyway, I think that you and Lost4ever are in big trouble!!! I first thought that maybe Hammer wouldn’t read ALL of the posts and just skip through them but then came to my senses. Too funny… maybe he has been busted though and IS meeting Kate.
Comment 309, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Trixanna wrote:
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I met with Kate and she gave me the info for Clementine’s money. :)
DocH and lost4ever, get in the room…and clean off that blood stain.
I have not yet seen the Kimmel stuff, but I saw the previews and yes absolutley I want to talk about it.
But as always, not going to compromise the integrity of the site. Damn….
Comment 310, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
BTW, I’ve been walking around Milaukee for hours…I can’t find Lavergne and Shirley anywhere. Figure they could show me where the get the beer. :)
Comment 311, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Hammer wrote:
Comment 312, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Let me help you out here- Milwaukee and you need to drink more beer until you can spell it on your own!
Comment 313, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
GUP wrote:
Milwonkey….Millwalking…slurp…gonna keep trying. LMAO.
Comment 314, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
You’re getting there…maybe a little brandy too since your in WI.
Comment 315, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Re: Hammer…
The majority of authorities appear to consider Milwaukee as equivalent to “good land”. It was apparently pronounced by aboriginal North Americans as “Meneawkee” or “Mahnawaukee,” probably a Potawatomi word meaning “a rich beautiful land.” Early settlers were inclined to believe that the name was derived from the blending of two words, “Mellioke,” the old name of the river, and “Mahn-a-waukke,” the gathering place. Many spellings were given to the city’s name until, in 1844, it officially became “Milwaukee”. It is generally regarded as of Potawatomi origin, meaning “fine land.” It was known to have been an aboriginal North American council place, the chosen spot to ‘hang with Jacob’ and other sub-dieties like Carmine, Lenny, Squiggy (and the Squigtones).
[Okay... that last little bit I made up. Find the nearest HofBrau Haus and atone for my sins!]
Comment 316, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
DocH wrote:
LOL. The first part sounded like what Alice Cooper told Wayne and Garth in the movie Wayne’s World. :)
Comment 317, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
lost4ever wrote:
I believe they kind of clarified some things about this episode around Jack getting sick. Not really sure if it is a spoiler.
Comment 318, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
tasha wrote:
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Finally found it. What they said IMO isn’t a spoiler, to me it’s like the podcasts. BUT the preview they showed is very much a spoiler as defined by this blog and should NOT be brought up.
Comment 319, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Just finally watched the episode…had to DVR it wasn’t around til now, thus i havent read all the posts and hope i’m not belaboring points….here are some thoughts:
Omar, this show made no sense? are you crazy? this show revealed alot, and if you can’t see it, then you should try to think about it
The biggest issue in this show: Jack is not supposed to be the father figure for aaron for whatever reason…this show made it very apparent that sawyer is supposed to father aaron…aaron was left in a very Moses-esque kind of way and now Sawyer has found him, he should be the father
The whole fact that these people may be dead makes me a very mad viewer, that would be such a cop out, and although the show has been interesting, if all these people were truly dead and living in a purgatory (island) and some got off purgatory and got into heaven (Oceanic 6), i just wouldn’t be happy…
However, I think that because it is only Season 4, they will be showing that our islanders are not dead and that theory will be shot down…
Comment 320, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Evan wrote:
The purgatory theory was shot down years ago by Damon and I still believe him.
Comment 321, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Ok thats good to hear…but you can’t tell me that’s what they were aiming at in the episode
Comment 322, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Evan wrote:
Sorry, I don’t understand your comment.
Comment 323, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Evan wrote:
While I agree that the island does not want Jack to be Aaron’s father, I am not sure that Sawyer is supposed to be. Does “finders keepers” apply in this situation?
I am not to familiar with the details of the story of Moses though. I know he was Aaron’s younger brother and a descendant of Jacob. Hmmm.
Comment 324, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Hammer wrote:
Oh Captain! My Captain! too funny. Can DocH clean the blood though and I’ll fix the engine and whip up some lima bean soup.
Sidenote- Go Hawks….beat the creampuffs.
Comment 325, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Hammer wrote:
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Ok. I missed the interview. What did they say?
Comment 326, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
For those who want to see D&C on Kimmel, you can find it here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX6GUJvc7ZQ
If you DON’T want to see the clip of next week’s show, just stop when they go to the clip because there is nothing of note in the interview after that. (Just Kimmel saying, “thanks to D&C, stay tuned for…”)
I did not watch the clip – if people who watched it want to talk about it so badly, I need to stay away! LOL
I also have an article that I pulled out of TVGuide a few weeks ago. I folded it and tucked it under my blotter. I think it will be safe to read it after the season finale *G*.
: ) P
Comment 327, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
PJSander wrote:
I will not talk about it until next week. When is the appropriate time? I am sure it will be one of the previews posted on this blog. Is it fair game when the post starts or after the episode airs. I have no problem with either. Just wondering what others think.
Comment 328, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
I don’t think there is much to talk about regarding the clip. It was nothing we don’t know. I just wanted everyone to know they D and C were on.
Comment 329, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Oh! And about Jack being sick.
Comment 330, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
About Charlotte speaking Korean…when they first showed her at the dig site of the polar bear, she was reading a newspaper in some language about the “finding of OA815″ and the girl she was with asked her how many languages she needed to read it in to believe it and she asked how many languages are there…I think being multi-lingual goes with her profession as an anthropologist so it really wasn’t that surprising…
Comment 331, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
You may have something with the Aaron as Moses connection. The story of Moses follows a similar plot of many ancient legends (a baby cast out and raised by another). In the story of Moses, the Pharaoh of Egypt was concerned about the growing number of Israelites and called for all baby boys to be executed. When Moses was born, the family hid him until he was too old to hide. They put him in a basket and set him out on the water, where he was caught in some reeds. The Pharaoh’s daughter found him and hired HIS OWN MOTHER (not knowing she WAS his mother) to care for him. He is raised as an Egyptian Prince.
There is a lot of similar mythology between the story of Moses and Aaron’s story.
Interesting…
: ) P
Comment 332, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
lost4ever wrote:
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Miles said,
“She wasn’t alone”.
“She called HIM dad.”
“I would have followed THEM…”
Case closed.
Comment 333, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
- The argument that Charlotte would speak KOREAN because she is an anthropologist does not hold up. Korean is an extremely rare language for an anthropologist to know. As a researcher in Tunisia…she would would need Arabic. Only a small percentage speak French (This is not Morocco). SHE was selected for this journey and her work because of her Korean..her empirical skills as a scientist..and because she is relentless. We will see her again back in Seoul with Sun and her baby.
Comment 334, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
The MOSES story does not fully work here. Moses was a son of Amram not Jacob. The notion of the woman leaving her son to save him does follow the story line.
Sawyer is developing a real attachment and protective attitude toward Claire and Aaron. He will stay on the Island to find Claire.
Comment 335, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Here’s a new take on Aaron..and would like to hear any response.
Aaron’s actual father is THOMAS, an artist, back in Australia. We never know his last name. ONE OF HIS paintings is in WIDMORE”S office. THOMAS could be WIDMORE’s son…since Widmore has an Australia accent. THIS MEANS that AARON is Christian Shepards’s and Widmore’s grandson.
Comment 336, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
tasha wrote:
tasha is wrong about the clip. If you don’t want to be spoiled you MUST avoid it. Especially if you saw the promo after Thursday’s episode.
Sorry tasha, but you didn’t pick up on something very important.
Comment 337, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Polli Kovitch wrote:
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I don’t think it was ever stated that Jacob was Moses’ father. Moses was a descendant of Jacob.
Comment 338, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
lost4ever wrote:
Fair point. However, it all seems a stretch. A sidetrack. More immediate is the connection to the real father, THOMAS, who has no name but has a painting in WIDMORE”S office.
Comment 339, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
sector7 wrote:
What is YOUR verdict? That is circumstantial evidence to me. He could have easily just heard the conversation with his ability. But that is my opinion.
Comment 340, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Polli Kovitch wrote:
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That has been talked about before on this blog. The Painting. You say it is one of Thomas’? It appears in Widmore’s office years before it is in Thomas’ apartment. Maybe it is Widmore’s painting given to Thomas?
Comment 341, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
With all the father/son/grandfather speculation going on I want to throw this out there. I think Christian Shephard is the son of Jacob. Charles Widmore might also be a son of Jacob. Just a theory. We’ll see!
Comment 342, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
sector7 wrote:
I like it or maybe some other sort of decendants, hold on to that one.
Comment 343, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Hammer wrote:
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I thought up until the clip was basically a podcast. They reviewed things about the last 2 shows. Is that really “spoilers”?
Comment 344, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
lost4ever wrote:
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I meant the “clip” of next week’s episode that they show at the end. I already stated that what D&C said is like a podcast. But as defined by this blog, previews are a spoiler.
Comment 345, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Two weeks ago Ben’s daughter “surrendered” to the killers of her mom and boyfriend. To whom did she surrender? I didn’t see her among the mercenaries that Lapidus kept away from Sawyer, Miles, Claire and baby.
Comment 346, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Hammer wrote:
Okay friends, I have to wrap up my meeting with Kate here in Milkwally (one more beer). Checking in when I get back on the road…Kenosha is pretty this time of year Gup! Luckily I got enough Lost in to avoid the Kenosha Chapter LAA meetings.
Comment 347, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Maybe Jack gets sick because he fixed Ben. People seem to get sick when they fall out of communion with the island.
The “promise” between Kate and Sawyer might occur when Sawyer gives Aaron to Kate.
Comment 348, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
lhardeenarrow wrote:
You must have missed a very important episode. If not, I would click on lat weeks thread “The Shape of Things to Come”. There are some very interesting points there.
Comment 349, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Hammer wrote:
Sorry you are right. I didn’t mean for people to watch it! I was thinking about the preview. Totally my fault. I should have been more careful in what I wrote€:(
Comment 350, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
OK- going on of a little tangent here regarding Smokie.
What if Smokie is sort of a manifastation of people’s bad Karma in a way. If you put out a lot of bad Karma out there in your life, it will haunt you. But, if you atone for whatever you have done, or come to terms with it and accept it, it will go easier on you. For example, it attacked Mr. Echo, but he had come to turns with it doing so, because he knew what he had done. Last week Ben pointed out to the gun-guy (sorry name escapes me) that he had done some bad things in his past, and Smokie was not very nice to him. Smokie checked out Kate and Juliet in the jungle, but might have seen that they have started to right their wrongs and left them alone.
Not quite sure if this works, but it is an idea.
Comment 351, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
lost4ever wrote:
Comment 352, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
MiraKS wrote:
Karma is an idea that has been repeatedly brought up on the island. Good theory!
Comment 353, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Wow even I got a little love on the Whisper theory, now when folks ask, and they are directed to that link, I’m an official co-signor. (*Doing my Prince Rogers Nelson Raspberry Beret* dance.)
I don’t think he danced in “Anothalovaholeinyohead,” video though.
I’m going to be interested in the signficance of that (if any) when it comes out.
Comment 354, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
tasha wrote:
It’s all good, I got your back. :)
Comment 355, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
RGS wrote:
Ahhh who loves you RGS? Come on…say it…say it…
BTW, if we knew what you looked like, the dancing visual would have been even funnier!
Comment 356, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Aaron: Aaron is a descendant of Jacob. In Exodus, Moses was directed by God to speak to Pharaoh to let the Israelite people go. Moses was scared and said he was slow of speech and tongue, so God said his brother, Aaron would speak for Moses. Later on, Aaron and his sons were the priests of the tabernacle (temple). Maybe our LOST Aaron has been taken to the Dharma “temple.”
Kate’s phone conversation: Maybe she was talking to Sun, discussing the babies and the lies/island secrets they both are covering up about Jin and Sawyer.
Comment 357, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
I meant, maybe Sawyer (“Moses?”) will take Aaron to the Dharma temple for some reason.
Comment 358, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
try again: Maybe Sawyer will take Aaron (“Moses”) to the Dharma temple for some reason.
Comment 359, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
MiraKS wrote:
then why didn’t Smokey kill the mercs? True, Ben may be bad and doesn’t deserve to use Smokey for his stuff, but the mercs were also going after innocent Aaron, Claire, and Hurley (I am leaving Sawyer out of this). If Smokey works on Karma, it would seem that he would get the mercs who had just killed an innocent (Ben’s daughter) and who were going to kill more innocents.
Comment 360, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
lost4ever wrote:
Jack gets sick because he is so hell-bent on leaving the island. He isn’t supposed to leave.
Comment 361, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
shells wrote:
Agree, sort of. I think he is ABLE to get sick because he rejects the island. I don’t think it’s a punishment or the reason he gets sick.
Comment 362, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Hammer wrote:
agreed…
Comment 363, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
shells wrote:
I just threw that out there to see what people thought. I don’t agree. He is not the only one that wants to leave the island. Maybe if he is the one who actually “saves” them, as he tells Kate he “saved” her, then I could see it. In other words, there has to be more than wanting to leave the island. Why did Ben get cancer and Jack appendicitus? Does appendicitus occur over night, or does it take time to develop? Where is our resident DocH?
Comment 364, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Hammer wrote:
Then why does Ben get sick? He fell out of communion with the island.
Comment 365, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
lost4ever wrote:
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I don’t know for sure, but I don’t think the island is punishing folks. It’s just allowing what would have happened, just like how Locke became paralyzed for a short time, then “healed” again. A sort of “faith healing”? I suspect the island isn’t satified with Ben, hence Alpert’s talk with Locke is, is what lead to the island allowing Ben’s tumor. But I still don’t think the island is giving out diseases to folks it’s not satified with.
Comment 366, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Kimmel: The island heals some people and doesn’t heal others. For instance, Ben needed an operation from Jack to beat cancer, but it seems like Sawyer gets injured every sixth episode and by the next, he’s fine. Is that just a TV thing?
Carlton Cuse: Wow. [Laughs] Where are the softball questions, Jimmy? What about the warm-up?
Damon Lindelof: The short answer is, it’s not arbitrary. Yes, there is a certain degree of compressing story. The idea that everything you’ve seen has really happened in 110 days of real time feels fantastical, but that’s the convention of the show. However, who gets sick and how fast they heal is something we talk about. In the second episode back [airing May 1], that becomes a major issue in the story. One character gets sick and another who has had experience being healed voices exactly that question: Is there any rhyme or reason to it?
Cuse: The healing is related to the degree to which you are in communion with the island at any given moment. Perhaps Ben getting sick and needing surgery had to do with the fact that he had fallen out of favor, that his connection with the island was maybe not what it had been in the past
This should clarify why some get sick and some do not
Comment 367, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
jaime wrote:
Thanks for the research jaimie.
Comment 368, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Polli Kovitch wrote:
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My first thought when I read your post was “Yes, that’s it!”. I think that will be exactly what will happen, Sawyer hands off Aaron to Kate and says something like “you go, take Aaron, I am going to find Claire!”. Then when Jack says “Sawyer chose to stay”, that will be why he did.
Comment 369, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Rita wrote:
Oh, I LIKE it.
Sawyer did say he has no desire to go back, but I have a feeling that he changes his mind during the next few episodes and that your idea of his staying behind to find Claire DOES become a sacrifice of sorts.
: ) P
Comment 370, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
From DocH comment 66 from Lost News Update-April 18th thread:
1) “Frozen Donkey Wheel” ? Never heard of that one. I had heard of “Rattlesnake in a Mailbox” from last season. It implies -totally not expecting something-, which last year was the Flash Forward season finale. I think frozen donkey wheel (FDW) is a metaphor for things coming to a complete halt (time & space). In olden days, villages used to use beasts of burden (donkeys) to turn a grinding stone to mill their grain, so they could make bread. The animals were tethered, and walked in a circle to turn a grindstone, etc…. In this case, I think it implies that time, space and the “normal order” of life on LOST island breaks down. A FDW, if you will. Frozen can mean it may be unfrozen later… or… frozen may mean that it is irrevocably broken – like a ceased engine in a vehicle (Swan Hatch?).
Since we haven’t seen exactly what the key was for and the Hatch folks believed that it was only for a last resort. Maybe turning the key froze the donkey wheel (island time) and the island has been on hold ever since? I said way back when Des turned the key that there was more to it than just imploding the Hatch.
Comment 371, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Hammer wrote:
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It is good research but I dont think it was from the latest Kimmel. On the latest Kimmel,
Kimmel: “Why is he the only one that has gotten sick on the island? No one else has really gotten sick.”
Damon: “Well Ben, the bad guy, played by Michael Emerson, he had a spinal tumor, so…”
Kimmel: “he did”
Damon: “he got sick and then Jack took it out”
Kimmel: “It got healed”
Damon: “yeah exactly”
Kimmel: “yeah OK. So maybe there’s 2 people.”
Carlton: “If you fall out of communion with the island, the island doesn’t like that so, maybe if Jack, basically listened to the island and you know he, he ran off into the future and turned into bearded pill-popping man, you know he might have been better off.”
You nailed it SHELLS.
Comment 372, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Rita wrote:
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It makes sense to me, but if Desmond’s vision of seeing Claire get on a helicopter with Aaron holds up…it gets a little more complicated :)
Comment 373, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
lost4ever wrote:
Thank you as well lost4ever.
Comment 374, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Agree that Jack as a ‘man of science’ may have fallen out of favor with the island, particularly if the island demands ‘people of faith’. Now how do we apply that Ben or the OA6? Ben seems to get off-island occasionally. Perhaps his cancer starts away from the island, and since he has Smokey frequent flyer miles, he didn’t have to go through security screening by Jacob at the terminal, between South Florida and the Looking Glass. Maybe Hurley’s punishment for ‘lack of faith’ was having his pre-existing condition (mental health) made worse. Maybe Sayids’ pre-existing condition (cunning ruthlessness) was made worse – having to serve Master Ben in FF world. Kate = lie, manipulate, won’t commit = punishment of motherhood and engaged to Jack. Sun = adultress sentenced to a life alone without the man that loved her, regardless of her indiscretions/adultery. Jack = life sentence to become his father, in word, deed and act.
[my sentence = hockey division finals, Stars v. Wings = same time as LOST on thurs nite...
[:( ---]
Comment 375, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Hammer wrote:
What scene did that apply to last year…I can’t remember.
Comment 376, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
lost4ever wrote:
This was DocH’s comment, but what he meant was the first FF we got in the season finale. It was a surprise.
Comment 377, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
DocH wrote:
I like this.
BTW, just watch Lost, Wings in 5.
Comment 378, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Lins wrote:
But Desmond had visions that did not hold up.
He saw Charlie drowning (trying to save Claire?)….
He saw Charlie taking an arrow (from a crossbow) in the throat, while going to recover Naomi.
He thought he knew the winner of a sports match he was watching in the pub…
So Claire leaving with Aaron could be a false ‘flash’ too.
Comment 379, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
DocH wrote:
Agreed, his glimpses are themes.
Comment 380, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Hammer wrote:
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In the podcast, i believe they stated that the “frozen donkey wheel” was a specific scene near the end of the show. I could be wrong though.
Comment 381, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
DocH wrote:
Comment 382, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Hammer wrote:
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I agree that we don’t know if it will actually come true based on past experiences…but it will make the death of Charlie seem a little less dramatic IMO…they really seemed to build that up at the end of the last season that that was the reason Charlie had to die so that Claire could get on the helicopter with Aaron, it will be a little sad to me if that doesn’t come true.
Comment 383, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
lost4ever wrote:
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And my theory is that specific scene will inform us that turning the key froze island time…
Comment 384, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Hammer wrote:
Rattlesnake in the Mailbox = surprise FF. Got it.
Frozen Donkey Wheel = frozen island time. Maybe. I like the idea. It just seems too easy. But so did Michael being the man on the boat.
Comment 385, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
lost4ever wrote:
Remember, it has to be easy for the casual viewer. The details of what that means is for us nut jobs.
Comment 386, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Hammer wrote:
Frozen (as in ice – ice hockey)
Wheel (as in puck – hockey puck)
Donkey (as in jackass!)
[;^)
Comment 387, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
DocH wrote:
Oooo that’s cold…get it?….cold? Wings in 4. (Okay, I really think it goes 7)
Comment 388, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Hammer wrote:
Hockey? is that a sport? I thought they were still on strike.
Comment 389, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
Loving the posts. Here are my contributions.
Claire: I agree with the earlier post that Claire may have died in the house explosion. I don’t believe Miles was checking her out. I think he realized she was dead. This was why he did not follow her.
Jack: Anyone else notice that everytime CS showed up so did the woman doctor? I think she works for the island. It seemed that he was just being shown glimpses of CS in order to rattle him. Then the woman is right there ready to hand out the scrip that the island knows will start Jack on a downward spiral. Also when she gave him the scrip she was dressed in all black right after the smoke alarm went off. Symbolism?
Comment 390, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
bolddeceiver wrote:
Wow, I had not thought about that…that’s really interesting. Maybe Jack will end up crazy in Santa Rosa with Hurley :)
Comment 391, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
tasha wrote:
NO-PLEASE RECAP
Comment 392, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
LOLA wrote:
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See comment 326.
: ) P
Comment 393, posted 2 years, 4 months ago -
bolddeceiver wrote:
So are you saying she died in the explosion and Sawyer carrying her in the house and the two of them plus Miles trekking through the jungle was an apparition? Because she was carrying the baby.
Which leads me to… CAN Christian Shepherd REALLY be dead? Can an apparition HOLD A BABY?
Trying to get my head around that.
: ) P
Comment 394, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
PJSander wrote:
Phew! I am glad you mentioned that. I was too timid to bring it up.
But then, to spin it in the opposite direction, maybe dead Christian can hold Aaron (symbolically). Not a dead Aaron, but the essence of Aaron. Christian hauled off the Jacob replacing ‘spirit of Aaron’, and dead Claire followed.
What Sawyer recovered in the tree trunks was the living, hollowed-out (oh crap! Kate’s my mom?) version of Aaron.
Comment 395, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
Lins wrote:
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OK, now I have been thinking about Hurley being “crazy”. I see him as one of the sanest of the whole cast. He thinks he is crazy because he sees things that don’t make sense, and experiences things that don’t make sense, so he feels he belongs in Santa Rosa (as far as we know, he was always self committed, even this last (future) time, when he did ask to go). Now, what if he never has been crazy, but has always been “special” like Walt, even before the island? He doesn’t know what is happening to him, so he assumes he must be cracking, and goes to get help (of course, if this is true, then the people he is going to for help can never really help him). He is just trying to make sense out of something that just doesn’t make sense. His response therefore could actually be quite sane.
Comment 396, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
Sorry I don’t know how to do that cool quote thing
“So are you saying she died in the explosion and Sawyer carrying her in the house and the two of them plus Miles trekking through the jungle was an apparition? Because she was carrying the baby.
Which leads me to… CAN Christian Shepherd REALLY be dead? Can an apparition HOLD A BABY?
Trying to get my head around that.
: ) P”
Response: I think she was an apparition. Claire is a mother. When a mother is dying I believe her first thoughts would be about who will care for their children once they are gone. Claire did not immediately realize she had died. Her only thoughts were caring for her son. So she did not “move on” for lack of a better term. It took a talk from Dad to convince her that she had died and that Aaron would be ok. JMO I realize this could be total crap but its what I got.
Comment 397, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
Perhaps in the finale they will resolve the whole issue via a 2-man scramble golf tournament.
Final Teams (after 3rd round cuts):
Ben and Jacob
Locke and Walt
Smokey and the Polar Bear
Christian and Widmore
Sawyer and Hurley
Jack and Sayid
Comment 398, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
Rita wrote:
I love Hurley and it broke my heart to see him last week! You have a point, he may well be the most sane of all. He knows that what he is seeing is NOT normal… how does one explain that to a shrink? “I see dead people” has already been taken. He seemed perfectly normal and happy when he went to see Sun, do you have a time frame on that? Anybody? Was that before or after being self-committed? I am hoping he got better and then went to visit Sun. I want Hurley to be okay!!!
Comment 399, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
I do not believe Claire is dead. So far D and C haven’t given dead people a lot of air time. I think it was ODD beyond belief that she didn’t die in the explosion but I sure don’t think she could carry a baby. Sure, maybe Miles sees dead people, but would Sawyer see her too if she was dead? I just can’t believe she is dead and walking around but there have certainly been stranger things that have happened.
Comment 400, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
lost4ever wrote:
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Appendicitis can happen suddenly or it can happen over time. The danger of appendicitis is ruture or perforation, thus the desire to leave Jack where he was (and not take him to the medical station). If Juliette had any brains, she would have had them carry Jack on a stretcher to the med station because danger of overwhelming abdominal infection is a post-op risk, even with a non-ruptered appendix.
Additionally, appendicitis can mimic many, many other diseases…
Comment 401, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
DocH wrote:
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Didn’t D&C say something to effect of Christian is dead but that they “may be using the word ‘dead’ in a sense we (the audience) don’t fully understand yet.”? Hopefully we’ll get some more answers on that this week!
Comment 402, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
Rita wrote:
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I agree. I brought this up in the “Confirmed Dead” Recap thread. Comment 45.
“I think the ghost whisperer is an awesome twist. It makes it possible that Hurley isn’t coo coo or has an overactive imagination. Also there is an age old theory that people who see dead people are crazy, but that people who can talk to the dead think they are crazy…then the person believes it themselves. …”
Comment 403, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
Typo in my own quote. Should be “….Also there is an age old theory that people who see dead people are NOT crazy, but that people who can talk to the dead think they are crazy…”
Comment 404, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
Hammer wrote:
Another hint that the fail safe key would stop island time(FDW)?
“Fail-Safe is a 1964 film directed by Sidney Lumet about a fictional Cold War nuclear crisis, and the US President’s attempt to end it. The catch line on the original movie poster reads, “‘Fail Safe’ will have you standing on the brink of eternity!”"
Maybe not. No takers on this theory eh?
Comment 405, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
lost4ever wrote:
The difference between Jack and the other people who want to get off the island, is his intensity to get off the island and how he didn’t listen to “not penny’s boat”. The other Losties are following his lead. Perhaps according to the island, Jack is particularly out of sync because of this.
Maybe it doesn’t matter to the island if the other Losties get off the island.
Comment 406, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
Trixanna wrote:
Miles doesn’t express alot of what he thinks… but he does try a couple of times to get Claire to give him the baby. Maybe he doesn’t think dead people should be able to carry babies either. Rules have been changed here.
Comment 407, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
I just got a thought that I’ll throw out… I dont rely to heavily on my own theories, but what the hell?
We all assume that Juliet was brought to the island under Bens orders… but what if Juliet was brought to the island as a way to trip up Bens leadership? By that guy, whom I cant rmemeber the name of, but who gave Locke all that useful information about Sawyer last season…?
Comment 408, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
boldeceiver wrote:
Just hit the “quote and reply” button. If you wan t to narrow down the passage, you can delete words, but you have to keep the Beginning “[qoute]” and ending “
lost4ever wrote:
Comment 409, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
DocH wrote:
I think that she was ‘recruited’ with the full consent of Ben. We saw Richard Alpert and Ethan Rom trying to convince her to sign-up at her bio-lab in Miami. After her ex was mysteriously squashed by the bus (Ben?), and with the promise of only a six month tour of duty, she’d be allowed to return to her sister… perhaps with a cure.
Ben greeted her warmly when she got to the island, took a fancy to her and wanted her for himself. She rebuffed him and he stretched her stay to over three years.
While I think that her entire ‘recruitment’ was fertility-oriented from her point of view, and from the view of Ben/Alpert/Rom, I do agree that she may have fallen in with the Richard Alperts train-of-thought… that Ben is not the leader that group of islanders needs right now. Bens’ tumor may have made that point to them. That the island has rejected Ben and that they need new leadership (Locke or Aaron?).
That said, I still think her main motivation is to return home to her sister. That is even easier to say now that she has collapsed her side of the Jack-Kate love triangle. Or has she? She may have just been playing Kate with the “he loves you Kate” speech she gave in post-op… with Jack listening.
(( new whisper – Juliet with Turets’ syndrome, under her breath, “Jack is mine you skinny beyotch!” ))
Comment 410, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
Lins wrote:
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In a podcast, I think they stated that they put characters into 3 groups. Alive, Dead, and undead. There were 3 characters in the undead group. Christian, Yemi and Kate’s horse. They kind of laughed at Kate’s horse.
Comment 411, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
lost4ever wrote:
And looking at Claire the past few episodes, she may be a new addition. Christian had an almost ethereal look the other night when he came for her. Step into the light Claire. They say you see dead (undead?) relatives when you look in to the light.
Comment 412, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
deangoodes wrote:
Hey all,
Long time reader first time poster. I have not read all the way through, but wanted to post this thought now before I get into some other tain of thought.
I recall Bernard saying to Jake about being knocked out for the surgery. He said something to the effect of you can go to sleep and think of something nice back home.
Comment 413, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
DocH wrote:
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This is not the first time CS has appeared on the island. He has visited Jack before. Jack is not dead.
Comment 414, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
Trixanna wrote:
I think he visits Sun, then he sees Charlie for the first time in the store, then this last episode, is the farthest point we have seen into Hurley’s future. So for Hurley’s future timeline, I think,
1. Ji Yeon
2. The beginning of the end
3. Something Nice back home
Did he appear in any other FF?
Comment 415, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
DocH wrote:
DocH wrote:
I never said that CS only appears to dead/undead people. That doesn’t mean the CS ‘sightings’ are mutually exclusive. But Jack sees CS in his business suit, not holding anything, and replying to Jacks’ questions. Claire sees CS not in a suit, holding something (Aaron) and talking to, but not replying to her (dad?). Very different CS apparitions. Claire was being summoned to serve the island (via CS)… Jack was having a Q&A session with the island (via CS). (Hurley via Charlie, Locke via Walt, Eco via Yemi, etc…).
Comment 416, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
I read this and thought it was pretty cool, what do you think?
It was nice to see Christian walking around and looking so… well… undead. And this got me to thinking. Why did the writers bring him back into the story at this point?
What are we building up to for our season closer? Probably a number of different plot arcs will be narrowed and a few new ones will leave us hanging until next season.
We’ve heard the producers tell use that some characters could be classified as undead. They gave us a few bones to pick on, mentioning Yemi, Kate’s horse and Christian Shepard.
I think our armchair adventurer Locke is undead. This happened when Ben shot him. he may not even realize that he is undead, but take my word for it. He’s dead.
Looking back over the past episodes, I noticed that characters who died and were buried were never seen again (except in visions). But Charlie, now we’ve seen him physically interact with Hurley. Christian’s body was on his way to a funeral and eventual burial, and his body disappeared. Yet Christian has been seen and has corporal abilities the same as a living person. Yemi’s body was on the Island, never buried, and was able to talk to his brother. And we know Mikhail refused to take a dirt nap.
Now, a question has come up in the last few weeks as to the reason why Danielle and Karl were found in a shallow grave. It’s because the frieghter folk knows that they must bury a body in order to make sure it doesn’t become undead.
Which leads me to this conclusion. Claire is undead. She died when the rocket hit the bungalow she was residing in. And how many of our other favorite characters are walking compost heaps?
Comment 417, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
sector7 wrote:
i know the yankees won 5 games in a row against them in fenway one year
Comment 418, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
DocH wrote:
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Actually the first time Christian appeared to Jack, CS didn’t say a word the entire epsiode. The transripts from the show are on lostpedia.
From lostpeida:
BOONE: Look at me, Jack. Where are you going? Hey, where are going? Hey!
[Jack runs off toward the figure. The man has stopped, and Jack stops, too, about 12 feet away. He walks slowly toward the man, reaches out his hand. The man turns. It's Jack's father. Jack backs away and falls.]
JACK: Dad?
[The figure walks away. Close up of Jack.]
That seems eerily familiar to Claire’s first scene with CS. “Dad?”
Comment 419, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
mike wrote:
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comment 237
Comment 420, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
my bad
Comment 421, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
jaime wrote:
Overall, great comment. Insightful and funny too. I like the Locke reference the most.
Thinking aloud… Locke saw the cabin and Jacob. Ben shot Locke in (into) the mass grave. Walt (undead?) rallied Locke back to his mission. NOW, all of a sudden, Locke can’t find the cabin and needs Hurley to get he and Ben to Jacob. So semi-dead Locke needs guidance? And living Hurley and living Ben see semi-dead Locke and are on-board in the cabin/Jacob locating mission? I understand that Hurley sees the ?-deadies, Ben too, to some extent. If Claire has joined the semi-dead, is she now part of Jacobs’ flock?
I am not for/against this theory. I just want more explanation. One thing I mentioned above is an undead Walt. That would explain tons of stuff. Spooky Walt in the upstairs window at grandmas house. Distraught Michael and his obsession with the island and its’ control over him (freeing Walt the goal?). What exactly did Ben share with Michael before he released him back into the real world? And Jack… “we have to go back!” Why? To free the undead/semi-dead?
The producers have joked many times about the “zombie” aspect that the show sometimes suggests. Are they now getting ready to make good on their ‘running joke’ at our expense?
(zombilicious)
Comment 422, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
jaime wrote:
Where did you find this Jaime? The writer presents the fact about the “undead”, given to us by D&C. D&C said there were 3 characters, sometime during this season, so it was after Locke’s amazing recovery. Then states that Locke is “undead”. Kind of contradictory statements.
As for Locke’s recovery, this was from your comment 365 ” Cuse: The healing is related to the degree to which you are in communion with the island at any given moment “, so I am pretty sure Locke recovered, and 100 percent sure he is not on of the “undead”.
If they do decide to go the “zombie” route, I think that will make the JTS official. JMO.
Comment 423, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
lost4ever wrote:
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http://www.docarzt.com/lost-theories/ding-dong-which-is-dead.php
I think some of the theory makes for a good read. Do i believe it? yes and no
I thought it would be good for discussion though. The comments posted after the theory are good, they question things that could possibly make it contradictory to which the author replies.
Comment 424, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
jaime wrote:
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TY. I am just having a hard time trying to figure out why people think Claire is dead or “undead” as this article stated. Is it because Aaron was found alone?
Comment 425, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
jaime wrote:
Undead is a pretty nebulous term, IMO. Plus, that podcast is from a while ago. D&C seem to be very good about hedging around the truth by joking about something (that may well be true) or by talking in immediate terms about the truth, when for example, the very next week, the “truth” has changed.
So I don’t think we can read all that much into the dead / undead / apparition / ghost / dream definitions they gave us, because it may all may well have changed. I mean, Christian may have been undead to Jack in the early days, and very well be ALIVE now. (I don’t know how – just saying.)
That’s my 2¢.
: ) P
Comment 426, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
PJSander wrote:
March 21, 2008.
Comment 427, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
Re: the undead–maybe it’s the reason Ben cannot kill Widmore because Widmore is undead.
Comment 428, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
Hooked wrote:
Respectfully submitted, I just don’t buy the undead stuff. Not in the zombie sense at least. Perhaps in the sense of the possibility of multiple dimensions of existence and reality, but not your typical Night of the Living Dead zombie.
I think it may unfold that we have quite a few dimensions intersecting one another at different points in time and space, without the beings who inhabit the dimensions knowing what they are seeing, or even if they are seeing. They may get glimpses now and then, but no clear picture. like “looking through a glass, darkly.”
But then I could most likely be incorrect…
Comment 429, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
What is this dead/undead/alive business? I think you are either dead or alive. I have no idea what “undead” means. Can someone please explain this?
My sister pointed out that Miles was awfully anxious to carry Aaron for Claire too. I thought it was because he is strange and possibly wanted to take Aaron and run.
I am so confused… need the LAA meeting soon!
Comment 430, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
shells wrote:
VERY well said.
Comment 431, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
roses12 wrote:
hi havent posted in ages as cannt keep up with you lot and your great theories.
however really intrigued as to Claire is dead theory. I get Sawyer died trying to save her. Miles can talk to dead people so like you said trying to ease live baby out of dead mums arms without antagonising dead Sawyer. grim. Ben and Locke are in sinc with island and Hurley already saw dead Charlie.
although doch explanation about Claire stepping into the light would explain why she left baby but with much less consiparacy theory and no zombie season lol:)
dont think we’ll see Claire again this season.
Comment 432, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
ps do you think we could do a Ben Is Evil, Not Evil board. cos i just dont get he is altruistic.
The scene did strike me as having a lot in common with Abraham’s sacrifice to God in the old testament. God asked him to sacrifice his only son but at the last minute he intervened and got Abraham to sacrifice a goat instead. Ben let Danielle’s life be determined by the island too, just didn’t work out so well for him. I’m not rehashing the religious theory just noting the similarities (like the literary references) for interest.
hope thats ok
Comment 433, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
The purgatory theory was shot down years ago by Damon and I still believe him….
Well what is he going to say? “Yes, you are right. I guess we can stop the show now”.
Comment 434, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
Hockey? is that a sport? I thought they were still on strike…
They never were on strike. It was a lockout.
Comment 435, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
Which leads me to… CAN Christian Shepherd REALLY be dead? Can an apparition HOLD A BABY?…
Well, if an apparition can slap Hurley so that he can feel it, why not.
If it is a creation of the island, rather than a ghost why not? It is only fiction after all.
Comment 436, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
Tim wrote:
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No, what they would have done is ignore it like they ignore the folks that have come as close to solving it as you can without being in the loop. Instead they denied it, they would be risking their future success of their careers if it turns out they lied about the plot and kept stringing folks along. Fans would never watch anything they were involved in again.
Comment 437, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
I don’t remember….who is the real father of claire’s baby?
Comment 438, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
lostfanatic wrote:
His name is Thomas, check out lostpedia.com, do a search for Thomas to get more info.
Comment 439, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
Tim wrote:
Good point.
Comment 440, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
Tim wrote:
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Sort of like being picked up or beaten up by a smoke monster.
Comment 441, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
Tim wrote:
Well there, see, *I* still think Charlie is alive and that it really WAS him slapping Hurley. I think he survived the explosion and swam out the porthole, was rescued and made a deal to hide his identity if he returned to civilization (which is why he told Hurley, “I am dead but I am here,” because to the world, he IS dead).
So I still don’t buy the “apparition” can touch people thing. And I don’t buy the undead thing. Yep, I think Christian is alive.
Of course that makes too much sense to be a realistic possibility *G*.
: ) P
Comment 442, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
Trixanna wrote:
They are all vampires. Just kidding.
Here’s what was said. You can decide for yourself.
Podcast 3-21-08
Carlton: “Kate’s Horse?” {they both laugh.}
Damon: “WE have this, this is actually a funny story, we have this board in the um, in the, in the room with all the,”
Carlton: “The writers room”
Damon: “in the writer’s room, with all the actors who are on the show, all the oceanic 815ers, but then all the sort of recurrs like Penny Widmore, Charles Widmore”
Carlton: “we have their headshots, so we can keep track of who have on the show”
Damon: “and Matthew Abaddon, and basically”
Carlton: “Sawyer”
Damon: “Yeah so everybody. They go into a door that says “deceased”, once they die, we move them over there. And then there’s a door that says “undead”.
Carlton: “Yeah”.
Damon: “And on the undead door there is only 3 pictures, one of them is..”
Carlton: “Christian Sheperd”
Damon: “One of them is Christian Sheperd, one of them is Yemi, and the other one is
Carlton: both laughing “Kate’s horse”
Damon: “Kate’s horse, just a picture of a horse.”
Carlton: “So Kate’s horse is”
Damon: “undead”
Thats it. The podcast can be found at lostpedia. This comment starts just after the half way point. I dont know how to put the link on here or I would.
Comment 443, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
Trixanna wrote:
Maybe Miles saw Aaron as leverage to get off the island?
Comment 444, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
PJSander wrote:
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I hear ya. But I need an explanation “that makes too much sense” (jk) of why Charlie disappeared when Hugo “wished” him away.
Comment 445, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
Hammer wrote:
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Well there WAS that gigantic TREE to hide behind! I think Charlie could that Hurley was obviously VERY upset and decided to leave him alone.
: ) P
Comment 446, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
PJSander wrote:
I dont buy it either. Just as I dont think Claire is dead. I think they were just saying, in that podcast, that they haven’t decided the fate of CS yet. His body was not in the coffin. Maybe it landed in the water…”it’s all in the water”.
Comment 447, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
lost4ever wrote:
I’m with you guys on this one, but Charlie is dead and IMO an apparition, which lead to you know where. :P
Comment 448, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
lost4ever wrote:
Well I think it is more that D&C have decided not to SHOW or TELL us the fate of CS. I believe THEY know his fate!
: ) P
Comment 449, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
PJSander wrote:
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Ummmm, you gotta do better than that P-Jizzle. Hurley “wished” away Jacob’s cabin too…did Jacob pull a Fred Flintstone, put his arms out the windows, pick the cabin and run behind a tree too? :)
Comment 450, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
PJSander wrote:
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Then he is undead. That’s what they declared.
Comment 451, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
Here’s an interesting piece I found on Lostpedia, which should put the CS talk to rest…
“Christian’s death, though not shown on-screen, has been confirmed in a Official LOST podcast (April 20, 2007 Edition). However, in later statements the creators of Lost qualified their statement by saying that they “may be using the word ‘dead’ in a sense we (the audience) don’t fully understand yet.” Even further clarification was received in “Access: Granted”, when Carlton Cuse stated “In terms of actually physically corporally in existence… he’s dead”. “
Comment 452, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
Comment 450: “Then he is undead. That’s what they declared.”
Comment 451: “Christian’s death, though not shown on-screen, has been confirmed in a Official LOST podcast (April 20, 2007 Edition). However, in later statements the creators of Lost qualified their statement by saying that they “may be using the word ‘dead’ in a sense we (the audience) don’t fully understand yet.” Even further clarification was received in “Access: Granted”, when Carlton Cuse stated “In terms of actually physically corporally in existence… he’s dead”.
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Just the fact that D&C have stated that CS is both dead and undead, and have QUALIFIED the word “dead” in SEVERAL ways, leads me to believe that there is a lot more to the story.
I am willing to set the theory aside until we know more because it seems to be aggravating people. Sorry if it seems like I have been beating a dead (or undead) horse (that is Kate’s).
: ) P
Comment 453, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
I’m late to the party here, due to real life getting in the way, and due to an attempt to remain completely spoiler free (like skweez is doing, according to his/her comment on the thread for the preceeding episode), but I had one thought that I didn’t see mentioned here….
I wonder if, like Claire, Sawyer will also see the manifestation/apparition (I’m not sure what the difference is) of Christian Shephard, and that will be how Claire and Jack find out they have the same father?
Otherwise, I think this episode disproved one theory I had, which I discussed with a few of you several weeks ago – I had stated that I thought when Charlie appeared to Hurley earlier this season, it was a figment of Hurley’s imagination, like Dave was. But in this episode, when Hurley told Jack he’d be getting a visitor and shortly thereafter Christian appeared, that made me believe Hurley really did see an apparition or manifestation that was Charlie.
Regarding the issue of whether an apparition can hold a baby (Tim’s comment #435), if we consider that Christian is a manifestation of the smoke monster (which is my belief), then it has the ability to touch things/people. Smokey literally grabbed onto the pilot, Locke and Eko while in its “smoke” form, and it bounced off the sonic fence. So I think it’s possible it could hold a baby (and pet a dog, which I think Christian did in one of the mobisodes).
Comment 454, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
PJSander wrote:
PJ I’m disappointed! After spending the last few days reading the comments for this episode and the previous one, I found myself agreeing with your comments more than anyone else’s – I enjoyed reading almost everything you wrote. (I especially liked comment #54 on this thread).
But to say Charlie isn’t dead…….first off, there’s no way he could fit through the port hole. But mostly, it defeats the purpose of the last half of season 3 – the course correcting/redemption of Charlie plotline. I think it would be a major cop-out by TPTB if it turns out Charlie is not dead.
Comment 455, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
Toeknee wrote:
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Ok, as one of the few people that I think actually enjoyed Charlie’s character…I just have one gripe about the whole scene with him dying and maybe I just haven’t watched it closely enough…but before he went into the room to turn off the jamming equipment, he pointed out to Des that there was diving equipment in the station…why didn’t they both just put it on before he attempted to turn off the equipment and then they could have swam back up together…sorry, just had to get that off my chest…I’m sure I missed something and I’m wrong about something, but it’s been bugging me!!
Comment 456, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
Lins wrote:
Comment 457, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
PJSander wrote:
Your opinion doesn’t aggravate me. I like to hear why some of us think certain characters are dead or not. I just thought that last statement from Carlton was pretty clear “In terms of actually physically corporally in existence… he’s dead”.
I agree there is a lot more to his story. You know, I dont think he ever exchanged words with Jack when he appeared to him on the island. Maybe that’s why Jack has to go back. Find his “dead” body and bury him. Unfinished island business.
Keep on beating Kate’s dead horse, you cant hurt it, it’s undead.
Comment 458, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
Toeknee wrote:
Right on Toeknee. I knew there was a “logical” {whatever that means on this show}explanation out there from one of the many great minds on this blog.
Comment 459, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
CS told Jack (over the phone) “let it go”, while Jack was on Hydra.
re: Apparitions holding, touching, petting, slapping ‘stuff’, AND suspending belief about said Apparitions. Just one question, when you watch a ‘ghost-story’ and the ‘ghost’ passes through a wall – on the second floor! – how come the ‘ghost’ doesn’t fall through the floor? Answer: You’ve suspended belief and are willing to accept what the writer’s are telling you.
(works for star trek & all of the other sci-fi genres out there too.)
Comment 460, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
DocH wrote:
TY Doc. Wasn’t absolutely sure. So that was only the voice of CS over a speaker. That’s not really exchanging words or replying to Jack’s questions.
Comment 461, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
DocH wrote:
Granted. I think I incorporated many Jack-CS off-island dialogues into my train of thought, and the on-island stuff where Jack was talking and asking things and CS was staring, turning, walking away, etc… as his reply. CS is a ‘siren’… sent to lure & distract.
Comment 462, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
Toeknee wrote:
To me, the port-hole was EXACTLY Charlie-sized. And as I have said before, he had already proven his incredible lung capacity by swimming down TO the Looking Glass, so I think it is possible. We have also seen that Desmond’s flashes don’t ALL come true – Charlie has lived a NUMBER of times after Desmond saw him die. PLUS, we know Claire does NOT get off the island (though it IS possible that she boards a helicopter with Aaron in arms, per Desmond’s last flash).
However, if Charlie isn’t shown as really “alive” by the end of this season, then it WILL be a bit of a cop-out to bring him back later.
Hey! Maybe CHARLIE is the person that Kate was talking to!
: ) P
Comment 463, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
PJSander wrote:
Someone mentioned this yesterday. Wasn’t the reason he lived BECAUSE Desmond intervened?
Im also curious as to which “flashes” didn’t come true, without Desmonds intervention? The soccer game was true, Des just got the wrong day was all.
I thought Kate was talking to Hammer.
Comment 464, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
DocH wrote:
He sure is.
Comment 465, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
PJSander wrote:
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Go back and watch the “Charlie death scene”. He is clearly floating dead, no doubt about it, dead. No way did he float there dead for awhile, then decide “Oh, I guess I will struggle out the window and keep holding my breath to reach the surface”. Sorry, but if he isn’t “dead”, then maybe “undead” (?), but DEFINITELY not “alive”.
Comment 466, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
lost4ever wrote:
Thank you for attempting to assist me on this one. My skull must be extremely thick because I still DON’T GET IT!!! LOL!!! I actually lost sleep over this last night… came out at 2:00 a.m. to see if anyone answered me. Pathetic, huh? I am willing to give it a rest until more is divulged though. I have to give it a rest or I may lose more beauty sleep and I certainly can’t afford to do that! Thanks!
Comment 467, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
Rita wrote:
I so desperately want to believe Charlie is alive too. Rita, I cannot be swayed by logic.. ha ha ha!
Fingers in ears singing “La De Da… Ho Hum… I can’t hear you!”
Love the idea that the port hole was Charlie size. Love it!
LA meeting still on for tomorrow?
Comment 468, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
Former post by me (#467) started with me saying I desperately want Charlie to be alive. Sorry Rita, I hope people didn’t get a mixed signal from you. Rita believes Charlie is dead, Trixanna doesn’t want to believe it. Thought I quoted and replied correctly but I messed up. (Wow, what a concept, what else could I be wrong about?????)
Comment 469, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
Has anyone here read An Occurrence at Owl Creek? Its a short story by Ambrose Bierce about a man who is condemned to hanging, and as he is pushed off the bridge, the hanging rope breaks as he survives. in the end though it is revealed that he actually died and the entire story, him reuniting with his wife, etc, was all in his mind and he imagined it all before the rope snapped and killed him.
the story was featured in an episode, the lost con.
I am sure its been looked upon before, but i thought i’d bring it up, what with all the undead ideas floating around.
Comment 470, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
Toeknee wrote:
Good to see one of the folks I tend to agree with on a regular basis returning…let me guess though (in my Mr. Friendly voice) “The Island won’t let you allow real life to get in the way.” I bet when you got on the Internet all of your favorites pointed to this site. Everytime you tried to type an URL this site came up, so you finally relented and began blogging away.
I’m guessing the PJ stands for Pitbull Jaws, because he is NOT letting go of the idea that Charlie is not DEAD.
Comment 471, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
jenny wrote:
Interestingly enough……
http://www.lostblog.net/lost/tv/show/an-occurence-at-owl-creek-bridge
http://www.lostblog.net/lost/tv/show/an-occurence-at-owl-creek-bridge-chapter-ii
http://www.lostblog.net/lost/tv/show/an-occurrence-at-owl-creek-bridge-chapter-iii
Comment 472, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
lost4ever wrote:
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Thanks but I wouldn’t go so far as to say I have a great mind. And you might agree too, lost4ever, once I inform you that I am a………….Celtics fan. :)
Comment 473, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
RGS wrote:
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Thanks for the kind words RGS, and you’re right – I’ve called technical support to have them straighten out this problem with my browser, and they’ve been trying for weeks to fix it, but they’re baffled. So here I am.
Comment 474, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
lost4ever wrote:
In addition to Kate telling me about Sawyer’s money, she wanted me to tell you that Charlie is dead. :)
Comment 475, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
Toeknee wrote:
Welcome back Toeknee. Mega dittos from the vast right winged conspiracy that Charlie is physically dead. :)
Comment 476, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
Trixanna wrote:
Here is my attempt and theory since you are losing sleep over it. ..Undead = Whisperers. Phsyically dead, but island undead. Hammer stands for Pitbull Jaws. :)
Comment 477, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
Toeknee wrote:
The first step is admitting you have a problem. skweez is reading all the posts too. Not fooling me you LAs. :p
Comment 478, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
DocH wrote:
Spot on, we are to except the rules of the story.
Comment 479, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
Trixanna wrote:
HTH! I dont really understand where they were going with it either. Maybe that will be cleared up by the end of the season.
Comment 480, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
Toeknee wrote:
I really liked yours and DocH’s explanation on why CS could hold Aaron.
As far as being a Celtics fan, that is your problem. Especially when we win in 6. Triple double from the KING tonite. Good thing game is on at 7.
Sidenote– PAPA JOHN’s is selling pizza’s today for 23 cents in the Cleveland area.
Comment 481, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
i’ve only read the last 100 comments, so forgive me if this is redundant.
so this is the first time we’ve seen Island Christian when he wasn’t wearing the suit…any thoughts?
i looked at old pics to see if maybe that’s what he wore the last time claire saw him, but i don’t think that’s the case….the lighting made it hard to tell.
also, regarding desmond’s flashes/claire getting on the chopper…i DO think they meant something because those scenarios DID come true, but he intervened. however, they all involved charlie’s death, so i wonder if it will pan out the same since he’s dead.
Comment 482, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
RGS wrote:
That’s funny. In an interveiw with D&C last week on G4, they compared Smokey and it’s actions to a Pitbull.
Damon: “the smoke monster’s like a pitbull, you know, if you let it off it’s leash..”
Carlton: “it’ll bite somebody”
Damon: “the chances of it attacking you, are just as great as it attacking someone else”
Carlton: “maybe it’s a little less likely to attack Ben, but its not like it does tricks”.
Interesting.
Comment 483, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
Hammer wrote:
That could be it, but wasn’t Boone one of the whispers? “It’s all in the whispers”.
You may be right about the Kate/Sawyer promise.
I think we might see that promise in the finale, along with a “spectacular” kiss.
Comment 484, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
lost4ever wrote:
Yes I believe Boone is a Whisperer, hence my very fluid theory of who in the heck is doin’ the Whispering…dead and undead = Whisperers?
Comment 485, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
lost4ever wrote:
Fitting…since I don’t like either.:) You’ll better hope “Mr. Big Shot’s” (Billups) hammy doesn’t get better soon…
Comment 486, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
Hammer wrote:
LOL I tried a strategy of staying a week behind, waiting until after the SNBH episode aired before reading the TSOTTC thread. But reading the comments here is so addictive I couldn’t hold off on reading the SNBH thread. It’s like Lays potato chips – noone can read just one.
Comment 487, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
Hammer wrote:
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I agree with that, Hammer. Although we ultimately may find out the Boone is one of the “undead”.
In general, I think we shouldn’t read too much into the “undead” term that D&C used. And I don’t think you can use any real-world-based definition of “undead” that you might think of and apply it to what happens on Lost. I think D&C chose to use that somewhat ambiguous term to describe some of the strange happenings that we have witnessed (appearances of CS, Yemi, and the horse), and then offer a sort of disclaimer that the term dead means something different on Lost. I’m sure they didn’t want to use a more accurate word than “undead”, nor did they want to go into a more detailed explanation of what they mean by “undead”, because that would give away more secrets than they want to give out at this time. And like Hammer has said, it’s likely that the explanation ties into the explanation of the Whispers.
Comment 488, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
Toeknee wrote:
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Seems weird that DocH(I mention you because you recently said the same) and I would be too timid to say something on this blog…but you have just said what I was too timid to take a stand on. I agree and thanks for saying it.
Comment 489, posted 2 years, 3 months ago -
There is an audio Mother’s Day podcast from D&C…no more spoilerish than a normal podcast, but stay away if you are “spoiler free”. But it reminded me of the questioning of the DHARMA food drops we have debated here before.
I am thinking that we haven’t had a DHARMA food drop since the turning of the key…right? Maybe more support that the turning of the key has stopped island time and it’s taking longer to get a drop? I know it’s weak, but I like this theory almost as much as the Whisperers. “g”
Comment 490, posted 5 months, 3 weeks ago -
I’m afraid that the Pit bull desires a particular type of owner…these pet dogs, regardless of how ‘supportive’ nevertheless have teeth, are still creatures without having moral concepts and when they DO bite, won’t allow go. As in all creatures…some tend to be a lot more suseptable to instinctual habits and time and time once again, this breed tends to complete just that.
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