Duke wrote:

Duke wrote:

Toeknee wrote:

Duke wrote:

PJSander wrote:

Duke wrote:

Just pointing out that that guy was wrong. Everyone else on here gets to do it why not me? Get off my back. I can give my opinions just like the rest of you idiots.

Of course you can give your opinions.

The difference is that generally, if someone disagrees with another’s theory, we explain WHY and say we have a different idea. Instead you just told the other poster that s/he made NO SENSE. That’s wasn’t “kind or helpful” at all. If you THINK the post doesn’t make sense, explain why.

: ) P

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I stated that Miles and Faraday came over on the freighter together so why wouldn’t he know him. That is why I said that dude didn’t make sense which he didn’t.

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Actually, JZ’s comment made perfect sense. We didn’t know which version of Daniel that was that came out of the sub – could have been a time-travelling pre-2004 version of Daniel, who had not yet met Miles. Or, if Daniel does not age, as has been theorized by some here, then it could have been a 1977 version of Daniel, who had not yet met Miles.

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Daniel stated long time no see which indicates to me that he also recognized Miles. Even if your absurd theory that it was a “different”version of the Daniel we have seen then Miles would have still recognized him. It wasn’t like he looked different or anything. That was my explanation for the NO SENSE part of my comment. Daniel could have conceivably not known Miles IF he was as you state a pre 1977 version of him who doesn’t age or a pre 2004 version who had yet to meet Miles. The key to it being one and the same Faraday is him saying LONG TIME NO SEE. THis generally means it has been a long time without my seeing you. Something that you would say to someone you had a relationship in the past with not some random dude on a dock when you exit a submarine. There everyone was that both kind and helpful.

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He also said Hey Miles when he exited the sub so there you go. I guess he did know him.

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Sorry I missed this whole conversation….I’m glad I raised some eyebrows, but it looks like Duke won that battle….and in a very classy way might I add. Duke-don’t be offended when someone calls you out for having a weak argument off the bat. If you want to sound at all intellectual and be viewed as a smart person by the other people on the blog then simply just explain yourself and not attack anyone in the mean time. Everyone will appreciate you much more.

IF YOU DON’T CARE-then don’t continue to defend yourself because in that case you clearly do and try to prove AFTER the fact that you didn’t mean harm. It’s lame absent apology that no one will ever care to understand.

But let me just explain why it was some what of a shock to me that Faraday knew Miles. Yes they came over on the freighter together, but we didn’t see how Faraday got off the island and IMO it was hard to understand at what point on “HIS” timeline he was at. Clearly the TT thing has many theories and people believe many different things. I would appreciate if you didn’t play down the theories that everyone else that has somewhat agreed on or at the very least considered to be reasonable.

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We do know that after time traveling Daniel, Miles, Juliette and Sawyer all ended up in Dharmaville together. Daniel thinks the young redhead he sees is Charlotte and then the alarms go off because RA has arrived. We know Daniele was in Dharmaville w/ Miles in 1974 but not where he went until he arrives back on the sub.

Wingman, Ben asks the receptionist and the receptionist gives him the month and day but not the year. Ben then responds by kinda guessing “2005?”

Steve, San Dimas time!

Duke, it seems odd to me that Widmore would be keeping bodies in a restraunt freezer. I dont know why I brought it up, Just a point of note I guess.

Finally, what I was saying about the time of the wheel (we all know Locke skipped three years, the 77′rs waited three years, three years passed for the 07′rs, it was three years…San Dimas)

It would only stand to reason that the wheel is a man made device, used to control an earthly power… it also seems that the power in question is one that can shift you to not any point in time, but rather all points in time at once…(unstuck) … I’m saying, what if the wheel doesn’t put you a certain amount of time ahead, but rather to a direct location in time.

Say like clicking a view master, its a different date everytime… Ben turned it went to 2005, Locke turned it and went to 2007, …say Daniel turns it next in the seventies, maybe he’ll end up in 2009.

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I like this idea about the FDW. I am going to vote for the FDW puts in present off island time no matter what the time on the island is. We will have to watch and see.

Duke wrote:

Toeknee wrote:

Duke wrote:

PJSander wrote:

Duke wrote:

Just pointing out that that guy was wrong. Everyone else on here gets to do it why not me? Get off my back. I can give my opinions just like the rest of you idiots.

Of course you can give your opinions.

The difference is that generally, if someone disagrees with another’s theory, we explain WHY and say we have a different idea. Instead you just told the other poster that s/he made NO SENSE. That’s wasn’t “kind or helpful” at all. If you THINK the post doesn’t make sense, explain why.

: ) P

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I stated that Miles and Faraday came over on the freighter together so why wouldn’t he know him. That is why I said that dude didn’t make sense which he didn’t.

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Actually, JZ’s comment made perfect sense. We didn’t know which version of Daniel that was that came out of the sub – could have been a time-travelling pre-2004 version of Daniel, who had not yet met Miles. Or, if Daniel does not age, as has been theorized by some here, then it could have been a 1977 version of Daniel, who had not yet met Miles.

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Daniel stated long time no see which indicates to me that he also recognized Miles. Even if your absurd theory that it was a “different”version of the Daniel we have seen then Miles would have still recognized him. It wasn’t like he looked different or anything. That was my explanation for the NO SENSE part of my comment. Daniel could have conceivably not known Miles IF he was as you state a pre 1977 version of him who doesn’t age or a pre 2004 version who had yet to meet Miles. The key to it being one and the same Faraday is him saying LONG TIME NO SEE. THis generally means it has been a long time without my seeing you. Something that you would say to someone you had a relationship in the past with not some random dude on a dock when you exit a submarine. There everyone was that both kind and helpful.

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He also said Hey Miles when he exited the sub so there you go. I guess he did know him.

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Sorry I missed this whole conversation….I’m glad I raised some eyebrows, but it looks like Duke won that battle….and in a very classy way might I add. Duke-don’t be offended when someone calls you out for having a weak argument off the bat. If you want to sound at all intellectual and be viewed as a smart person by the other people on the blog then simply just explain yourself and not attack anyone in the mean time. Everyone will appreciate you much more.

IF YOU DON’T CARE-then don’t continue to defend yourself because in that case you clearly do and try to prove AFTER the fact that you didn’t mean harm. It’s lame absent apology that no one will ever care to understand.

But let me just explain why it was some what of a shock to me that Faraday knew Miles. Yes they came over on the freighter together, but we didn’t see how Faraday got off the island and IMO it was hard to understand at what point on “HIS” timeline he was at. Clearly the TT thing has many theories and people believe many different things. I would appreciate if you didn’t play down the theories that everyone else that has somewhat agreed on or at the very least considered to be reasonable.

Steve, San Dimas time!

Duke, it seems odd to me that Widmore would be keeping bodies in a restraunt freezer. I dont know why I brought it up, Just a point of note I guess.

Finally, what I was saying about the time of the wheel (we all know Locke skipped three years, the 77′rs waited three years, three years passed for the 07′rs, it was three years…San Dimas)

It would only stand to reason that the wheel is a man made device, used to control an earthly power… it also seems that the power in question is one that can shift you to not any point in time, but rather all points in time at once…(unstuck) … I’m saying, what if the wheel doesn’t put you a certain amount of time ahead, but rather to a direct location in time. Say like clicking a view master, its a different date everytime… Ben turned it went to 2005, Locke turned it and went to 2007, …say Daniel turns it next in the seventies, maybe he’ll end up in 2009.

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I thought Ben said “2005″ and the clerk verified the year. My thoughts revolve around Ben knowing the year, and simply confirming the year with the desk clerk. I will have to check the episode, I think The beard thing started well before Locke came to Jack. If I am wrong, then I am really wrong, but I will have learned new things in the storyline.

Thanks for Keeping me thinking on my feet Wingman and Wallyp, it is what makes the blog fun.

@ wallp and steve – Unless I missed something, Ben (After escaping on the horse of that man he killed) asks the foreign receptionist at the hotel WHAT YEAR IS IT? As in he doesn’t know what year it is…I take that at face value…I suppose he could have known he was in a time-range not ridiculously far in the future, but the fact remains he didn’t know…

I also think a month is too little time to perceive that Jack has an obsession with crashing on Oceanic flights…Not discounting it, but Jack had atlases, maps and was doing all sorts of research on what flights to catch, so to think he only did this 4-times doesn’t seem as excessive as the storyline makes it to be (As if Jack has been doing this for months and months insanely)…Since he doesn’t see the Jeremy Benthem obituary until after all these flights, I’d say Ben lied when he said he saw Locke a month ago (Can’t remember when he said that, but I’ll take your word for it)…He’d probably been hiding him for months before that especially if he killed Locke right after he left the hospital Jack was working at…Again Jack’s beard in that episode is AT THE VERY LEAST a couple months behind his super-scraggly beard from the first future flash episode or the episode where he meets Ben in the funeral home…Take it from a dude with a beard (albeit it small at the current moment), they take more than a couple of months to get as thick as Jack’s was…