Well when they named the man in the casket as Jeremy Bentham i knew it had to be Locke.

What? How do you claim to have known it from the name Jeremy Bentham?

Also, one of the last things Locke and Jack talked about was the idea of miracles. Jack said he didn’t believe in miracles, but John responded, wait until you see what I’m going to do (or something like that).

Your initial thought, of course, is he’s going to move the island. But Ben moved the island, so what is Locke going to show Jack? His resurrection? It’s a miracle, isn’t it?

Because both the real John Locke and the real Jeremy Bentham were philosophers.

Desmond is also named after a philosopher.

Because both the real John Locke and the real Jeremy Bentham were philosophers.

Desmond is also named after a philosopher…

The fact that they were willing to put three different people in the casket shows it didn’t matter who was in there because the character is going to continue to be on the show. Although, I think that if it were Desmond they would be forced to answer more questions, like how did he know about the people on the island? If he knew, it meant he went back. How was he able to go back alone?? How does he know where it is?? So, if it were Sawyer or Locke there would be a lot less explaining.

Also, one of the last things Locke and Jack talked about was the idea of miracles. Jack said he didn’t believe in miracles, but John responded, wait until you see what I’m going to do (or something like that).

Your initial thought, of course, is he’s going to move the island. But Ben moved the island, so what is Locke going to show Jack? His resurrection? It’s a miracle, isn’t it?

Totally agree with this comment, it’ll be similar to the way jacks father was resurected

Also, one of the last things Locke and Jack talked about was the idea of miracles. Jack said he didn’t believe in miracles, but John responded, wait until you see what I’m going to do (or something like that).

Your initial thought, of course, is he’s going to move the island. But Ben moved the island, so what is Locke going to show Jack? His resurrection? It’s a miracle, isn’t it?

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I am thinking that at this point, Locke believes that HE will somehow move the island (like maybe Ben will tell him how?) because Jacob told him to do it. Maybe even still, he thinks he did it.

I don’t get it, is Jack’s dad still alive? He keeps appearing in random places. For example, in the finale, he said, “You can go now Michael.” It could be that whole time travel thing, but I’m not sure.

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He is dead, though may yet appear as a manifestation of smokie/Jacob/whisperers, or as an “undead”, whatever that may mean.

Wouldn’t it be the Oceanic 7? Walt was on the flight and he made it out.

Walt is living a secret life with an alias because of the conditions of his and Michaels escape from the island…check out lostpedia.com…search for Walt.

Just curious who likes Locke’s character????

I like Locke’s character. I watch the show because of all the mystery. When I think about whether someone likes Locke, I think also about Jack’s character which is the total opposite. I do not like Jack’s character too much. I like the whole idea of this being fate and everyone was brought there for a reason. Locke’s flashbacks represent that the best. He really was MEANT to be there. I like how he lets the island guide him. I think it’s what makes the show so unique. JMO:)

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I don’t get it, is Jack’s dad still alive? He keeps appearing in random places. For example, in the finale, he said, “You can go now Michael.” It could be that whole time travel thing, but I’m not sure.

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He is dead, though may yet appear as a manifestation of smokie/Jacob/whisperers, or as an “undead”, whatever that may mean.

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I’m geting confused now…Jacob is speaking through Christian, right?

Just curious who likes Locke’s character????

i like locke’s character bcuz it’s never really been clear whether he’s one of the good guys or if he’s doing it for his own twisted reasons.

maybe jack’s dad isn’t the real one, only some messenger of the island, like when he came to visit jack. another messenger is charlie who is visiting Hugo.

and maybe claire is dead also, since these messengers are usually replicas of dead people and claire was sitting with christian in jacob’s cabin…

Just curious who likes Locke’s character????

Locke has been my favorite character on the show ever since I watched the 4th episode of the show. Any of the regular readers here who’ve read my posts have seen me argue for Locke’s goodness time and time again. I think he’s a wonderful character who’s been through more hell than any soul should ever have to bear, and the more recent flashbacks we’ve seen only reinforce my view.

I’ve never considered Jack much of a hero, and when it comes down to it, I have a lot more respect for both Locke and Sawyer. Time has already proven me right regarding Jack and Sawyer. Jack has, as I suspected, let his desperation to leave the Island drive him into making some terrible decisions and Sawyer has grown into the hero I very much suspected him to be.

Locke on the other hand, strikes me as one of the kindest characters on the show. This became clear to me the day he made a dog whistle in order to find Vincent, and then after finding Vincent, he did not return him to Walt himself, but rather allowed Michael to do so, letting Michael grow in his son’s view rather than take the credit himself. He also helped Claire build a craddle for Aaron when she was feeling down over Charlies’ failings. The main gripe people have with Locke is that he seemed to be sabotaging the Losties means of leaving the Island; the radio he sabotaged, the submarine he supposedly blew up, the communications station that he destroyed, etc. In all those cases, I have trusted his judgement. Otherwise, the main concern has been that he caused Boone’s death - I never considered this true. Boone was with Locke on a quest, and he died. Locke did not force him to climb up to that plane, nor could he anticipate that it would lead to Boone’s death. People simply blamed Locke for it because of his explanation of Boone’s death as a ’sacrifice that the Island required’ - but not liking his explanation does not mean he wanted nor intended Boone’s death.

Considering what Locke has been through, and the multiple times he’s been betrayed by people he trusted - it’s incredible to me that he remains a kind person. The ONE thing I hold against him is that he pulled a gun on Hurley when he needed him to find Jacob’s Cabin. It was simply unnecessary. Yet, I find it absolutely ridiculous to believe that he would’ve pulled a trigger on a fellow Lostie. He no more intended to shoot Hurely than he intended to shoot Jack when he pulled a gun on him. This is why when Jack pulled a gun on Locke, Locke simply didn’t believe - I repeat - couldn’t believe - that Jack might actually pull the trigger. He said something like “You’re not going to shoot me Jack, anymore than I was going to shoot you.” - and then of course, another betrayel - he saw Jack pull the trigger…

In any case, yes - I like Locke.

A lot.

Sadly, seeing him in the coffin means - well, I expect that we’ll probably see the circumstances of his death sometime around the end of the next season - so at least I guess we’ll see a lot of Locke DURING the season, and until he’s killed. Sadly, this ALSO means that we’ll probably not see that much of him during Season 6 - assuming that he gets resurrected sometime at the end or latter half of that season…

Anyway, that’s my guess - based mainly on the notion that they BETTER give us a LOT more of Locke :)

The fact that they were willing to put three different people in the casket shows it didn’t matter who was in there because the character is going to continue to be on the show…

Actually, I think they shot the 3 different to maintain an element of surprise since spoilers were floating all over the place for this season finale. They were just trying to keep people guessing. Including the crew :)

dude I just though what if the Charles Whidmore guy used to be the leader of the Dharma Initiative. i mean it makes sense kind of.

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/// Or maybe Whidmore was the leader of the others and had them gas the DI people, then he had to move the island so Dharma couldn’t find it! Maybe Ben was supposed to find him and bring him back to the island, but didn’t … “changing the rules” so that once you turned the wheel you couldn’t go back! Maybe that’s why Whidmore hates Ben so much?

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Also, one of the last things Locke and Jack talked about was the idea of miracles. Jack said he didn’t believe in miracles, but John responded, wait until you see what I’m going to do (or something like that).

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Well, that was a strange part with Locke bragging about what he would do next…and then he couldn’t even find the door to the elevator!
That made Locke look so dumb and then he also was useless in the station…asking childish questions while Ben was busy…and then he didn’t have the brains to switch the armband monitor Keamy had on before it went off…

If Locke keeps on like this back on the Island; no wonder he got killed.
Used to be one of Favs, but now he’s slipping big time.

Just curious who likes Locke’s character????

Acutally I do…My husband thinks it’s funny. I like Ben and Desmond too.

To answer the who likes Locke. Well I do, without him this show would be another Baywatch.

Btw I am glad that Boone and Shannon both left the show, they were not that interesting.

At this point I feel the writers have to give us something real good. The ending of season 4 was goal No.1 = Leave the island. The other goal would be to explain the mysteries of the island. Now that we know that the smoke monster is machine of some sort and can be controlled by the Ben, that will not be used so much now. It was fun at first to add some danger to the island but now that they have misused it to a point that it is meaningless, it’s a loss.