Precognition and Gamma Radiation
3 years, 4 months ago by AndreasRead more: Desmond, Episode Thoughts, Lost Theories
The most interesting thing in “Further Instructions” besides Locke’s visions and his return to the hunter role was Desmond’s new “power”.
When Hurley tells Desmond that Jack, Kate and Sawyer have been captured, Desmond answers:
Don’t worry, Locke’s gonna go after them. He said so in his speech.
Like us, Hurley has no idea what Desmond is talking about and Desmond excuses himself, explaining that he is “just a bit shook up”.
Later we find out that Desmond somehow actually knew what he was talking about. In a dramatic speech at the very end of the episode Locke proclaims:
“I’m gonna find our friends. I don’t know how yet, but I will. We’re gonna find them. All of them. And then we’re gonna bring them home.”
So how could Desmond know what Locke would say in the future? It seems like he has been given the gift of precognition which is explained like this on Wikipedia – “Believers in precognition say it allows a “percipient” to perceive information about future places or events before they happen”.
I have no idea how Desmond’s precognition works, but I think I know how he got his new powers. Note how Hurley asks Desmond if he will become The Hulk now. I don’t think he will become the Hulk but I think this was a clue.
In The Hulk, Dr. Bruce Banner was hit by gamma radiation which altered his genes and turned him into The Hulk.
Gamma radiation is a form of electromagnetic radiation so it wouldn’t surprise me if Desmond has received a high amount of gamma radiation through the destruction of the electromagnetic anomaly in the Swan station.
It is also interesting that Lost co-creator Damon Lindelof is writing the comic book “Ultimate Wolverine vs. Hulk”.
What are your thoughts?
Comment 1, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
Precog? Perhaps. Who can tell and honestly, with all of the started and dropped threads this show has spawned, I find myself losing interest quickly. What ever happened with Hurley’s hallucinatory friend? Or the intriguing mini-thread about his girlfriend being another patient in the mental hospital he was in. It really seemed like something intriguing was about to develop and then they just dropped it and moved on. And now they’ve cooked up this Humboldt County pot growing operation that for some reason allows strangers to drop in and scope out their greenhouse for weeks on end. What was the deal with the ship with the dynamite, or the strange whispering, or phantom Walt showing up all over the place, or Eko’s brother’s plane showing up on the island, or Rousseau and her lost daugher Alex, or the people who were with Alex who got sick?
In the first two seasons, you had the sense that these threads were going to start to converge and that a picture would begin to develop, but it hasn’t. Now it seems as if there really isn’t a big picture after all. The show is just meandering along, tossing out random mini-mysteries to replace the old mini-mysteries they abandoned after a show or two.
Comment 2, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
Interesting idea. I had contemplated it being more of a time-related issue. It seems as though we’re missing some time – Desmond and Locke both woke up in the jungle in locations some unknown distance from the hatch, both with no apparent explanation as to how everything in the hatch imploded, but the human occupants were exploded or ejected from the hatch. I’m wondering if there has been some kind bizarre occurance with time, and Desmond was having some sort of ‘future’ deja vue.
Comment 3, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
That tidbit about the writing the comic book…possible BINGO.
What do think of this: What if Locke, Charlie and Eko all managed to get out of the hatch before the implosion but the implosion effected them enough to be dazed? Charlie walks back to camp obviously confused. Locke is lying face up not far from the hatch. Eko gets dragged away by the bear.
In the mean time Dez gets hit with the implosion because he is down where the key gets turned and turns it just as the implosion is happening. Thereby resetting the magnet in a more permanent state. He ends up being the naked Hulk, but the island is “hidden” again because he turned the key. I think the subjects to turn the key as a last resort for that very reason…if you can’t push the button…turn the key so island is still “hidden”.
Comment 4, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
It was at that moment in the episode I thought it was going somewhere… but no. I like the theory. Maybe its also something like the philadelphia project, that also involved electromagnets.. i think.
Comment 5, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
How I DO NOT WANT to believe John, but unfortunately, that is how exactly I was thinking.. Earlier I was under impression that they have the plot and everything has already been planned and eventually we will find out about every small mystery from each episode. I even went back and forth watching every past episode, thinking I must remember what happened and when so I will not miss any point of the director. But as this season is progressing, I have this eerie feeling that they really do not have any plot, they just add more characters and drop some old so the story keeps going on for season after season. How I do not want this to happen but I just know that this is how it will end! Alas.
Comment 6, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
Lost is going no where. I missed the first and second seasons !
Comment 7, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
Samy wrote:
I think that all this talk of the show going nowhere is a lapse in judgment. After all in reality it is only two years old. The mysteries that ar emerging know will almost certainly be mixed with past ones and eventually will form the big picture that every one want. After all the reason most people watch the show is because the show is shroudeed in mystery and keeps you guessing from week to week not only about the stories but the characters as well. A prime example is the episode “further instuction”. the hatch has been resolved more or less but it has opened the door for new questions such as desmonds apparent precognition and new character developments like lockes return to the hunter character. The hatch makes way for desmond whisch stregthens lockes resolve about himslef leadin to a whole new storyline derived from an old one which can only help to form the big picture that every one want to see now before it is finished
Comment 8, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
NO
NO NO
NO NO NO
NO!!!!!!! If they go all freaky sci-fi on me i swear i’ll stop watching…..NO! He probly just had a LOST dream that he was in an auditorium and Locke was all “We the people of the island” and so on
Comment 9, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
Okay, this is a random thought. Edmonde and Eko were covered in blood but Locke wasn’t. I think Eko was bloodied by the bear. Was Edmonde bloody with his own blood or maybe not? The stick was covered in blood – had to have gotten bloody before it went flying up into a tree. What happened with Edmonde and Eko in between the time the hatch blew and the stick went flying into the air? Time glitch? Did the bear attack and both fought him. I think Edmonde is trying to sort out what he is remembering from that time.
Comment 10, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
Samsandrasan, his name is Desmond not Edmonde, hehe.
Interesting ideas about what might have happened.
Comment 11, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
Thanks, don’t know why I got Edmonde stuck in my head.
Comment 12, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
I’m worried about how many loose threads they start – seriously, someone a lot more pedantic than me should start a list. Off the top of my head, I can think of a few:
- the two skeletons in the caves.
- Jack’s Dad’s body.
- how the Black Rock got in the middle of the isle.
- how Alex became one of “The Others”.
- how Locke lost the ability to walk.
- who the “real” Sawyer is.
- Walt and his “special” tendencies.
- the entire Libby backstory.
… and that’s without really thinking. I still love the show, and I’m going to keep watching it religiously, but I’m also pretty darn keen to start clearing some of this stuff up.
Comment 13, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
Hugo Reyes wrote:
110% agree. Desmond just had an island/Lost vision or dream or whatever you call it. He has no super powers. That would be too cheesey.
If the producers of Lost are so influenced by other great works of recent fiction and science fiction, they have to be fans/followers of J. Michael Strazinski (pardon the spelling) who produced “Babylon 5″. That show has many similarities to Lost insofar as story plots all twisting together, lots of time spent developing deep characters, and most importantly a well defined end of the show that answers many questions (they never answer them all! ;-) ).
Comment 14, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
It’s an interesting idea. I personally think the show is not as disjointed as the first poster mentioned, because Dave, Smokie, polar bears, Kate’s horse, etc. all seem to me to be connected in that there’s mounting evidence they are partly spawned and actualized through the thoughts of the losties… but that is just IMHO.
On precog and the implosion, I think it’s an interesting idea. I’m not sure about where gamma rays would enter in the equation in this case, but I guess many things are possible, given we don’t know the details. But we could talk about the other end of the spectrum, with electromagnetism. I know I read a parapsychology theory (not on a Lost site) about how electromagnetism could effect clairvoyance… it was interesting (though it’s hard to say how much basis there is in science of such phenomena).
Comment 15, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
I don’t know if I’m partial to “superpowers” but I don’t think we can discard the possibility considering that Walt seems to have the gift of psychokinesis and considering that many of the writers are big comic book fans.
Comment 16, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
Cecilia wrote:
Gamma rays are an energetic form of electromagnetic radiation. The hatch contained some form of electromagnetic anomaly. If it was destroyed or exploded/imploded it wouldn’t be surprising if there was electromagnetic radiation as a result.
I am a bit partial to the phenomenon though, since I wrote a whole theory about it a while back.
Comment 17, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
I know everyone is thinking psychic powers with Desmond but what if were over thinking it. What if there is a set plan of some sort, what I mean is Desmond said that Locke was going to give a speech maybe it wasn’t that he is psychic, but that he knew that Locke would take this course of action. In his flashback, I don’t think that the whole point was about being a hunter or a farmer, but it was about Locke being easily persuaded and led. What if they’re just leading Locke along and Desmond is really an Other. This was just a thought And I don’t know if this would fit in very well with the overall theme going on with “powers” and such but there are my two cents.
Comment 18, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
I don’t think Desmond is an Other unless everything we saw about his past is a false and I doubt the writers would play that game.
The farmer vs. hunter thing I think is meant as a metaphore for peace vs violence as a fundimental path of life. People tend to consider farming as a simple, peaceful, planned and organized non-violent activity while hunting by it’s nature is strategic, cunning, witty (as in sharp wits) and violent (you are killing something). IOW, it’s meant to say Locke isn’t a killer at heart.
ps- In another entry someone made the comment tha the Others might be super-evolved apes. I’ve been thinking about that and it would answer many questions. But I’ll save that for another time.
Comment 19, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
As long as the new storylines do not involve the losties as the cast of a late night sketch show or part of a crime scene investigations unit, ill keep watching.
I would like to have alot of the loose threads tied up as well. Some of them have been however; we most likely won’t ever see the blast door map again!
Comment 20, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
Sorry Andreas, I should have made myself clearer… what I meant is more just I’m not sure what percentage of the spectrum would generate gamma rays (as opposed to visible light, longer waves, etc) after the explosion of a huge electromagnet, that’s all. It was more just thinking outloud… I think in the story, that’s supposed to be a larger electromagnet than any known in real life, so it’s hard to find comparable examples.
Comment 21, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
I was wondering if anybody noticed that Locke stepped on a toy truck in the cave. Since there are no children (left?) on the island this would suggest that there was at one point.
Did they live in the cave or did the bear eat them? I agree with everyone that it was not a good episode. Seems like it was filler untill they could think of something else to write. Nothing too technical to write or shoot on that episode. Next week looks better though.
Comment 22, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
I saw the toy too. It was a yellow metal dump truck.
At first I thought it meant the cave was inhabited by ferral children. Remember last season we saw Jin and Eko hide in the bushes while a group of scruffy-looking Others passed by and one was carrying a teddy bear tied by a rope or wire around the neck.
After we saw there was a bear in the cave I took it to mean the bear had dragged a child into the cave at one point.
Speaking of bears, how long does a polar bear live? Assuming there were only 2 bears (the one Sawyer killed and this one) and they came to the island at the begining of the Darhma project in the late 70’s/early 80’s, they’d have to be pretty old bears. Or, that means there are more bears. At least enough to form a small breeding communitty and they are infact breeding in the wild on the island.
Comment 23, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
“In the wild, polar bears live an average of 15 to 18 years, although biologists have tagged a few bears in their early 30s. In captivity, they may live until their mid- to late 30s. One zoo bear in London lived to be 41.”
There is the theory that they came with Rousseau on the ship. That was 16…17 years ago? There is also the longevity project…
Comment 24, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
I don’t know about the polar bears being on Rousseau’s ship. The Others have basically a scientific zoo at the Hydra. Sawyer was kept in a bear cage, Jack is being held underneath a shark and/or dolphin tank. We’ve seen both those animals throughout the series and the shark had a Dharma tattoo. Not to mention that crazy bird. I think the island was supposed to be some sort of utopia study having to do with both man and animals in unfamiliar environments.
My thoughts on the hatch/button/electromagnetism… there obviously was some real threat. First episode this season showed the plane breaking apart. If you watch it as it breaks you see the front half with the engines kept going while it was the tail end that the magnet held onto. And Desmond failed to press the button the same day they crashed so yea. That seems to be pretty much over but what about the two scientists in the Arctic(I’m assuming) that called Desmond’s ex-girlfriend and said they’d found it???
Comment 25, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
My daughter thinks that the polar bear looks shimmery, like a dream and that it is not meant to look real. Perhaps the polar bear is the smoke monster or perhaps the polar bear is a continuation of Locke’s hallucination. That would explain how Eko’s leg remained intact. Did Charlie see the polar bear? No, I don’t think he did…. only Locke saw it.. What if Locke percieved that Hurley was the polar bear? What if the animal in the cave was not a polar bear but Vincent and Locke saw him as a polar bear. That would mean the bones are not polar bear left overs but more folks like Adam and Eve. Maybe the vision is the effect of the implosion coupled with sweat lodge drugs. Come to think of it when you slow down the TIVO the bear looks like something out of a comic book……hmmmm.
Comment 26, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
hey andreas, my clock says it’s 9pm oct 20th, and the last guy’s comment says oct 21st. how does that work? are we thrown back in time, like desmond? i like the precog theory. during the show, i was like, he can see future! ask him what happens to jack, kate & sawyer! he seems a bit uncomfortable with his new power though. but i’m super glad he’s back on the show. (they didn’t blow him up! yay!) and glad that we finally see rodrigo santoro! they can keep dragging on with the mysteries, as long as they develope a backstory for him. ;)
oh yeah, about the yellow truck in the bear’s cave. did anyone think maybe it’s the bear’s toy? since the bear was kept in that cage sawyer’s in, and he figured out how to get food in 2 hours… also, according to charlie and his nature shows, polar bears are the “eisenteins of bears”… so maybe the bear’s using the truck to build another room in the cave or something. :D
Comment 27, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
Hmm some good theories, but did anyone actually notice the scripture on Eko’s stick while Locke was holding it. ‘Lift up your eyes and look north John 3:05′
How many times have we heard ‘lift it up’ or something along those lines? I think this is a clue to something.
Comment 28, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
The text all over Eko’s stick was written there by Adewale, and is usually considered to be pretty non-canonical, but the phrase “lift up” has been debated about.
Comment 29, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
I like the precog idea a lot, and there were other hints dropped at the end of last season. After Desmond and Locke had locked Eko out of the bunker so they could let the timer run down, all of a sudden, when there was only a minute or two left on the clock, Desmond started to freak out, telling Locke, “we have to push the button!” Locke smashes the computer to stop him, and Desmond says, “we’re all going to die”. So he rushes down and turns the key to prevent it. Of course, that would mean that Desmond had these powers or feelings or whatever you want to call them before the implosion occurred. At the time I just took it to mean that Desmond had a hunch, like any of us might in a situation like that, but with what happened in the last episode it makes me wonder.
I also really love the idea with the toy dumptruck. I had forgotten about the scene with the group of Others walking past and the teddy bear dangling from the string. From what I’ve heard, the writers already confirmed that there are two groups of Others; could the second group be made of children? Are they kids like Walt, with special psychic abilities? And, the obvious follow-up – was Desmond one of those same children now that it appears he might be psychic? His backstory shows he didn’t come to the island until he was an adult, but we know very little about what happened to him before his seperation with his wife and meeting with Jack at the stadium.
All said, I was a little disappointed with the last few episodes too, but I’m far from giving up; every time I think it’s reached its inevitable decline, the show blows me away for the rest of the season. I don’t think a lot of the threads have reached their conclusion yet, even if they aren’t being dealt with on an episode-by-epsiode basis, and others, like Hurley’s imaginary friend, effectively were wrapped up by the end of the same show (in that case, Libby helped him regain his stability by being compassionate…simple as that). So I say give it time.
Comment 30, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
I want a picture, a picture of the thoughts behind all this. Nothing is really clear in my head and of what i can see we can not figure anything out because the past of lost does not really get solved. Look at all the mysterious happenings throughout episode one and two, they are slowly fading away. Wouldnt surprise me if the show ended with no conclusion at all.
Ive recently been following Heroes, However, I’ll still keep watching Lost.
One thing i thought of when i looked at this episode was the village where Lock had met his new friends his new family. Somehow it felt like this place was similar to the others village, i don’t relly now why, just had that feeling.
Mike and Jane?. Do i recognise “mike” from somwhere in earlier episodes, or is he just a new actor in Lost. Just playing around with thoughts.
Comment 31, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
“Mike and Jane?. Do i recognise “mike†from somwhere in earlier episodes, or is he just a new actor in Lost. Just playing around with thoughts. “
I just compared screen shots of Mike at the Pot farm and the Other with the fake beard ripped off and they look to be one and the same to me. Is this why he needed a disguise, so Lock wouldn’t recognise him? (season 2 – Hunting Party)
Comment 32, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
Mike from the “pot farm” is not the same person as Zeke/Tom/Mr.Beardy. They are played by different actors and are not the same character.
Comment 33, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
violet wrote:
You never know. It is entirely possible that I’m writing you this answer from the future!
The time settings in the blog must be wrong, I’ll take a look at it.
Comment 34, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
Well I watched it again last night and I have another question. Among the remains where Locke found the toy truck is an individual who appears to have died, sekeleton intact, wearing a Dharma shirt. If the Polar bear was eating people(assuming there even is a polar bear)how are there whole skeltons to be found? In addition, the cave interior looks odd. Someone else mentioned the neat door-like entrance. The stalactites look more like old wiring than rock formations too. I agree that this cave may have housed one of the other stations.
Comment 35, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
Lesley, it’s pretty sure that those bears are actually something else. Like a comic book? Yeah, like the one read by Hurley (and than Walt) in Spanish.
Evolved, smarter, result from genetic experiments, they are the “security system” of the island and play a major role in the story.
The cave may have been a station or a gate for the subterranean tunnel network that produces smoke, traps and odd machine sounds.
Comment 36, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
one of the other blogs suggests that desmond is dead and only hurley can see him
Comment 37, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
Yea, that was my thought when i saw the episode – Desmond is dead and only Hurley can see him. Check out the end of the episode when Hurley is telling Charlie he is having Deja Vu. Desmond isn’t behind Charlies shoulder where Hurley looks over to see him. Furthermore, it doesn’t appear that Charlie sees Desmond when he looks back.
Dead characters and people from the past show up all time on LOST – even if only in the head of the people on the island. Boone showed up for Locke, Jack’s father showed up, etc.
Desmond can’t be one of the others because Henry Gail is wondering where the sail boat comes from that Desmond was sailing (and was sitting off shore for 3 years).
Actually, i think they are answering some of the mysteries as they go along. Certainly the zoological site gives a lot of clues to several mysteries about the animals on the island.
It will be intresting to see how many of the threads they pull together as the show progresses along.
One more unsolved mystery. Whatever happened to the Australian airline stewardess who just mysteriously disappeared when they were carrying Sawyer up the hill on the stretcher. Was she one of the others? Was she captured by the others (and if so, where is she now)?
Comment 38, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
I think the people who say that there will be no conclusion to past mysteries are entirely in the wrong (Don’t mean to sound harsh :) I was under that impression too coming up to the final episodes in season 2 but small things like, finding out that Locke hit Sayid in the back of the head some 20 or 30 episodes ago, leads me to believe that the things we remember now, like Elizabeth and Those two in the arctic are the wrong things to be thinking about, because they’re gonna come back when we least expect them… Which is good writing!!! But I have the uttermost faith that we wont be dissappointed in the end!
I’m glad to read aswell that the producers say there are two different groups of others because it was an idea I was sporting to myself in the middle of season two… When I saw those dirty children I had the idea that there are “The Others”, and “The Infected”… Just a thought…
Insofar as Desmond’s precognition? I think it’s great, because he’s such a fantastic charachter he can probably pull anything off!
Loved the episode by the way (But it’s probably because I’m a Locke buff!!!)
Comment 39, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
Kevin wrote:
Didn’t Locke see Desmond when he was waking up in the grass? Desmond was running along naked and Locke tried to call out to him but couldn’t as he was mute. I’ll go back and check, but that’s how I remember it.
Comment 40, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
I agree Edward, Locke did see Desmond running past him in the jungle. I don’t think Desmond is dead.
Comment 41, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
Andreas wrote:
I have another theory: Sayed didn’t really seem all that upset about losing that REALLY nice boat…I feel fairly certain that he has put a homing device on it to find the Other’s real camp…and to return with reinforcements. Any opinions?
Comment 42, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
It would be a smart strategy, but does Sayid have enough equipment on the island to be able to build a homing device?
Comment 43, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
Andreas wrote:
Yeah I think he might: There was quite a lot of stuff in the hatch and he might have planned this plot out a bit in advance, so I think he might have a strategy.
Comment 44, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
Ah sure Sayid’s like macgyver anyway…
Comment 45, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
About the kid dragging the teddy bear… He isn’t one of the Others, he was the kid from the tail section that the Others kidnapped. Remember the brother and sister? The boy had the bear on the beach.
Comment 46, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
heres an interesting theory.could there have been a time freeze when the key was turned which gave them time to escape followed by a hickupn time where time went back which would explain desmonde and co. disoreintation.they had actually lived it before.also there seems to be a psychic phenomenom on the island that could pull things from there subconcious.that would tie together some of the unanswered mysteries and all the flashbacks.
Comment 47, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
I wouldn’t be surprised if you are on to something there Scotty. Some form of time freeze would explain how they all escaped.
Comment 48, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
Does anyone think that the polar bear, and the cages that Sawyer and Kate are in were once related? I know that when Sawyer was proud of figurines out THE CONTRAPTION, the OTHER guy said “The bears figured it out in the first 10 minutes”. Might they have been the Polar bears, in some sort of circus act?
Also, the INCIDENT that is referred to might have been an escape of the bears, and they formed their own community, thus the bones and such in the cave?
Comment 49, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
In “Every Man for Himself” Desmond seemed to know about the lightning striking Claire’s “home” on the beach. Knowing this, Desmond asked Claire to move but when she didn’t want to, he instead built a lightning rod.
The lightning struck the rod instead of Claire’s home and by changing the future Desmond saved the life of Claire, Aaron and Charlie.
Possibly another sign of precognition?
Comment 50, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
Andreas wrote:
Ben seems to always have a leg up…though I think it’s more because of his spy gear. There was that Other women that talked to Michael about Walt before she gave him the list. What happended to her? She seemed to know about that kind of stuff? Maybe she’s helping Ben too.
Comment 51, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
I think Damon said that Mrs.Klugh is still around but maybe not at the Hydra station.
Comment 52, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
Walt, Desmond and Mr. Eko now all have “precog” of a sort. Physicist Richard Feynman describes a state of “reverse time” – likewise physicist Wolfgang Pauli discussed such states and wrote about this condition with Swiss depth psychologist C.G. Jung. Encounters with Spirit Bear/Polar Bear in cave brings psychological turning for Eko (dark night of soul – “Star Wars” has such an episode as well) – the individual is “born again” in cave – womb of the Earth Mother – and returns transformed. Desmond is naked – “born again” after the explosion (space/time anomaly); a new man in a new age. This parallels the Dharma path in which evertything has two levels – Nirvana (the Unconscious or inner world) and Samsara (the Conscious and outer world). Classically, submarines in dreams represent a journey to the Unconscious (” . . . we all live in a Yellow Submarine.”) These themes were most advanced by Jung/Pauli and popularized by Joseph Campbell, the great mythologist who taught at Sarah Lawrence, where J.J. Abrams went to college.
Comment 53, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
I think desmond died like gandalf in The lord of the Rings and has now been sent back to help the survivors survive. desmond was given his powers to protect key figures in the future of the island
Comment 54, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
The King, it’s an interesting idea, but I think Lord of the Rings is much more of a fantasy world than Lost. I don’t think Desmond was brought back by some higher power , but I guess it could be possible considering all the connections to religion in Lost.
Comment 55, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
Need help. I posted on the Lost BB the following questions yesterday. I had five replies with no real anwser only to come back today and find it was pulled.. Hmmm
In teh 3rd season opener we see kate come out of the shower in the locker room only to find her clothes gone. Look at the locker numbers on the lockers where she looks for her old clothse. Then she see’s another locker with the tape thats says wear me, the Tag on this locker is different than all others. “LYUN 841″ Lyun is korean, so I thought maybe they were hinting at the origian of Dharma, but there is no locker manafacture I can find on the web from LYUN. What is the signifigance of 841? Why did they pull my post? more questions than awnsers im afraid…..
Regards
Comment 56, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
I’m not able to answer your question Slomski, but if the tag indeed is different, I suppose there could be some reason behind it… does anyone have a theory on this?
Comment 57, posted 3 years, 4 months ago - Quote and reply
Personally, I believe that Desmond had a dream… literally. I think when he was sleeping he had realistic dreams about the future. I don’t like to think he was awake and suddenly went all Dead Zone on us and wistnessed Locke giving the speech.
Comment 58, posted 1 year, 2 months ago - Quote and reply
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