Jason wrote:

Ok, here’s a question. I’m hoping someone can explain this in a way that makes sense to me. We know that Eloise remembers killing Daniel later in life. We know that she knew all along and drove him to go to the island anyway. How come Richard doesn’t ever seem to remember Locke or any of the others he comes into contact with. Hasn’t he “been here for a really long time”, according to Ben and Juliet?

I think we have to consider what might be memorable events to someone. KILLING someone is something you probably won’t EVER forget, especially when you come to find out AFTERwards that it was your own son!

Otherwise, do you remember EVERY person you have EVER met? While you might remember an event (the mayor coming to your elementary school, for example), you might not remember the faces of those involved. Richard might remember when a bald man came into his camp and started spouting off at the mouth, but not remember the face (just as I couldn’t pick the mayor out of a lineup, to save my life). Hope that makes sense.

Presumably, Richard has encountered a LOT of people in his “many years” on the island making it even more difficult to remember them all.

Toeknee explained it well:

Toeknee wrote:

…the writers couldn’t have Alpert come out and say, “I met you back in 1954” because that would have given away the time-travel aspect too soon.

The next time after 1954 that Richard sees Faraday is in “The Variable”, and at one point early in their encounter, Richard says, “Do I know you?”, indicating that Faraday seems familiar to him.

I suspect that if we go back and look at Richard encountering LOSTies he “should” have already known, it might explain some of those “blank” looks on his face.

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I haven’t seen anyone mention this. Maybe it is too obvious.
The title of the premier is “LA X”. The airport is “LAX”. LA is Fernch and other languages for THE. X is the most commom variable in elementary algebra.
LA X = The Variable. Didn’t seem like a rerun…

People moving through time I almost get, but things like the van & guitar case are a bit of a stretch.

is the place where ben went to be judged by smokey the same place as the temple?

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They had to carry Sayid over the hole in the floor that Ben fell through, so it is the place where they were caught and taken to the temple I think

THE NUMBERS: 4 8 15 16 23 42

was brainstorming the other night and it hit me. what is the significance of the number 108?

it seems to randomly chosen. yes its a multiplier of 9, a number that signifies completion. what else? then it hit me:
4+8+15+16+23+42 = 108. also the hourglass drained for exactly 1 minute 8 seconds, which isnt 108 seconds but still interesting. numbers are ket here: 9? 9 people were touched by jacob: jack kate sawyer hugo jin sun sayid locke and finally 9th, ben.

jacob’s tapestry featured the eye of horus with nine rays shooting down towards people.

Hammer wrote:

This is D&C’s way of showing us ‘what if’ Faraday was correct. Now they have to show us what was ’supposed’ to happen.

What I want to know is what Faraday was doing for a few years (Ann Arbor?) before he came back to the Island in the 70’s.
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So Taller Ghost Walt was really MIB in a Walt suit, getting liveLocke off his butt and out of the mass grave… got it.
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Kate on-the-run for three years in Australia? Really? Seriously? Jack went to get his dad’s corpse… was he trying to get it out of Australia for three years? How about this… OA815 landed in Sep ‘04, as scheduled. Because if it landed in 2007, three years late from a time jump – they would have had a totally different reception at LAX (like Air Traffic Control asking – what’ja been up to?).

Oceanic Baggage Agent: Uh, sorry folks, your luggage will be along in ten years.

We don’t know why Kate is on the run in this time-line. Is it still because she killed her step-father, or some other crime?

If Jack is a more confident person in this time-line (as he appears to be), maybe there was no big comfrontation between him and his dad, no big alcohol problems, dad did not die in 2004.

I do think that this flight could be taking place in 2007 (or later). Maybe the “current ” losties won the war, the island sank and in the process “course corrected” to where the “new” losties are back on track (on the plane), but in a slightly altered reality.

I’m intrigued by some of the comments asking whether the plane flight to LA is in 2004 or 2007.

Most assume it’s 2004 but we don’t really know.

How do we know that Jack wasn’t going to fetch his dead father in 2007 in Australia after his father had moved to Oz in 2004 to be with Littleton?

How do we know that Kate wasn’t running in Australia for over 3 years before she was caught?

I think there’s enough room for interpretation still and until we know 100% that it’s 2004, there might be something really wacky going on.

Are we to assume that Mrs Hawking sank with the island in 1977? Mrs Hawking still has the journal, no? She knew what they were doing with the bomb, right? Didn’t Charles Widmore have a secret way to get on and off the island in the seventies? And doesn’t he hold a lot of water? (no pun, no pun) WHH, and I think due heavily to people with power pulling strings! –it seems like every one is under the impression that these people were somehow wiped from existance. I dont think thats the case…

Hammer wrote:

I think that it is the new reality until they ‘fix’ what they ‘changed’. Faraday was correct about detonating the detonator (props DocH). So we have a new reality, but we can see that 2007 is still happening the way it would have without the detonator. So I think we will see the new reality ‘fixed’ so that we end up with surviving Losties on island in 2007 fighting to save the island/world.

This is D&C’s way of showing us ‘what if’ Faraday was correct. Now they have to show us what was ’supposed’ to happen.

See to me, no matter how you slice it the detonator incident HAS happened. We just don’t know what is the “real” result of it. So to me 2007 is happening WITH the detonator incident, the same as this new 2004 is happening WITH the detonator incident.

Are you saying D&C’s way of showing us ‘what if’ Farady was correct about which of his positions? If the 2004 Losties were to somehow end up at the 2007 point, isn’t that confirming that Whatever Happens Happens, because there is no way to avoid the 2007 confrotation that will happen at some point this season?

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I am saying that Faraday said if they detonate…that would change the past. So they are showing us the ‘butterfly effect’ of said act. And yes, WHH through course correction, they end up on island fighting the war anyway. We have to wait and see how they reconcile the ‘new’ reality with the old.

This is D&C’s way of showing us ‘what if’ Faraday was correct. Now they have to show us what was ’supposed’ to happen.

What I want to know is what Faraday was doing for a few years (Ann Arbor?) before he came back to the Island in the 70’s.
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So Taller Ghost Walt was really MIB in a Walt suit, getting liveLocke off his butt and out of the mass grave… got it.
- – - -
Kate on-the-run for three years in Australia? Really? Seriously? Jack went to get his dad’s corpse… was he trying to get it out of Australia for three years? How about this… OA815 landed in Sep ‘04, as scheduled. Because if it landed in 2007, three years late from a time jump – they would have had a totally different reception at LAX (like Air Traffic Control asking – what’ja been up to?).

Oceanic Baggage Agent: Uh, sorry folks, your luggage will be along in ten years.

M

LostGrrl wrote:

Toeknee wrote:

Lola wrote:

had to watch it again-Still can’t figure out what Juliet said to Sawyer, when she thought he was someone else-something about going dutch?

I’m with PJ-calling that Jacob is now inhabiting Sayid’s body.

Juliet first said, we should go for coffee, then said, we can go Dutch. For those that may not be familiar with that expression, it means that when 2 or more people do something together, each person pays for their own expenses.

I think that’s the conversation that will happen at the end of the series… In some alternate universe, Sawyer and Juliet will finally meet off-island. There will be some sort of spark… Sawyer will suggest they have coffee and Juliet will suggest they go dutch. And off they will ride into the sunset to live (finally) happy lives together.

I hope. I thought it was nice that Sawyer was allowed to have a proper goodbye with Juliet.

500 comments this week…not bad. I have not read any BTW, but I wanted to say, I have this idea (of the many I have about LOST- this though might be my craziest one) that smokey-MIB turns out to be the ‘good’ guy in the end or the one who is really trying to rectify things somehow. Just wanted to throw that out there.

M