Lost Season 3 Finale Recap
1 year, 5 months ago by WillRead more: Charlie, Desmond, Jack, Kate, Lost Theories, Walt
It has been a week now and the dust has settled (mostly) from the mind-blowing Season 3 finale. Though we are undoubtedly left with many questions to keep us occupied until next February, we were provided some closure as well. In summary:
Charlie is dead
There was a lot of commentary associated with the finale post related to how Charlie died and exactly why he did not try to escape from the control panel room as it filled with water. Ultimately Charlie believed that for the Losties to be rescued from the Island, specifically Claire and Aaron, he had to die in the way that Desmond envisioned. Bringing finality to season-long foreshadowing and in truly heroic fashion, he initiated the catalyst that will inevitably cause some of the Losties to get off the Island.
So are 12 Others, Naomi, and (possibly) Mikhail
The action and body count in this episode was unbelievable. We saw the Others’ rank and file decimated throughout the finale, Naomi literally stabbed in the back by Locke, and Mikhail detonate himself via hand grenade. However, I am not going to make the silly assumption that Mikhail is dead; after all, we have now seen him bounce back from the sensor pylons and a spear to the chest. We will probably see him wash ashore in Season 4 alive, but missing his right hand.
Though I generally agreed with it, I thought that Sawyer’s execution of Tom was the foreshadowing of an even darker descent for the character that we will see next season.
“Not Penny’s Boat”
During Charlie’s brief commune with Penny, we are told that Penny does not know of Naomi, which basically begs the question “Who is Naomi with?”. My first guess would be Dharma, or the corporate entity that financed the Dharma Initiative. She obviously has access to sophisticated technology and knows enough about Desmond’s back story to use that as the means to convince the Losties of her motives. Widmore anyone? Hopefully Desmond can get back in time to save the Losties from whomever is on their way to “rescue” them.
Future Jack is Depressing
As Jack is one of my personal favorite characters, I am hoping the flash forward we saw represents a “possible” future for Jack, and not the absolute. If it is Jack’s future, I would hope he finds a way back to the Island to right the wrong he feels needs to be addressed, and to find some greater meaning for his life. J. Wood, whose blog I have read frequently this season, discussed the flash forward in his TTLG post and it is definitely worth reading:
I’m planting a flag here — when Des saved Charlie, he changed that past and present as well as the future. Charlie couldn’t swim in the first season, and he’s all of a sudden a swimming champion who makes an impressive dive in “Greatest Hits,” a dive that Mikhail needed scuba gear for. Like Charlie’s newfound innate swimming ability, perhaps in the re-made past/present/future, Christian Shepherd didn’t die. And maybe that’s why Kate seems to be conspicuously lacking her trademark freckles.
The flash forward itself implies an even greater question for next season, and that is, did the Season 3 finale represent a change in the narrative angle for the entire series? Was the flash forward a one-time episodic plot device, or is this what we can expect moving forward?
Is Ben a bad guy, or a morally-challenged good guy?
Seeing Jack in his current state of depression made me think that Ben is really the only one who has this whole thing figured out, and is ultimately doing whatever is necessary to protect the location of the Island from the people looking to exploit it. There was obviously some merit to his comments about the company that Naomi was keeping, and his dialogue related to Jack’s need to get back to civilization, though stinging, was the truth. Nevertheless, it was somewhat cathartic to see Jack pummel Ben. For those that haven’t seen it yet, there are some pretty good transcriptions of Ben’s diary out there.
Who was in the casket?
There has been a lot of speculation about this; it could be Locke, Sawyer, or Ben, or anyone else under the guise of a different name. In my opinion, it is probably either Ben or someone we have yet to meet on the series. Jack commented that the person was neither friend nor relative, and the reaction evoked from Kate would indicate it was somebody that there was a general level of contempt for.
Season 4 cannot get here quick enough, and I am excited to learn more about everything referenced above, as well as where Locke has migrated off to, where exactly is this temple that Ben has sent the remaining Others to, and did we really see Walt, or was that a reincarnation of Smokey? Could Walt have some tie to Jacob?
We will continue to try and keep things interesting on this blog, following any information released about the series, the actors, and making some changes along the way to prepare for a better Season 4 Lost Blog experience. We are working on initiating a theory-focused contest and will have more information on that in the coming weeks.
Until then, stay Lost.
Comment 1, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
Looking at Ben’s diary (and having horrible handwriting myself), I can fill in some of the blanks.
The first blank is the word “narrow”
Another sentence: “JUST as our water supply ___s HAVE been cut off”
“ANTIQUE army”
The end is “AND THAT, I FEEL _____”
Comment 2, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
In Jacks Flashforward in the hospital, he said to the other doctor get my father lets see whos’ more drunk. I’m confussed, so if the past/present & future have all changed, then anyone of the dead cast could be bought back??!!
We could start all over again but with different tales.
Comment 3, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
I have been saying this for a long time now. When Ben said they were not the bad guys he was not lying. I strongly believe that Ben’s motives are good. He might be in over his head right now, and is thus making some bad/ rash decisions, but we’ll find out in time that he was justified in many of his actions.
Try to look at things from his (possible) point of view.
As a child he is brought onto a mysterious island. He is there as the child of the janitor though, and thus his opportunities are somewhat limited, i.e. it is his job to become the janitor like his father. But Ben is different. His lonelyness and experiences teach him to be more in-tune with his surroundings. He has a “sixth sense” if you will. By chance he meets the original occupants of the island- the ones that were there before a big company/ organization decided to use the island’s special properties for research, human experimentation, ..?.., in order to …?…world power, profit, control…?.. From these original people he learns the truth and decides that the organization (Dharma) needs to be stopped.
He waits patiently for years while learning important information along the way.His unassuming job as janitor allows him to get into many limited access places without arising suspision. He watches, he learns, he becomes an astute observer and gains great knowledge of the workings of the Dharma stations and research.
In the mean-time Dharma exercises strong control of then island. They try to get rid of all those who get in their way. When a research ship lands on the island, they release a chemical weapon to kill them all. Ben manages to rescue and save a little baby girl and adopts her. He knows time is getting critical.
Then the time comes to act. Ben has known this day would come. He has to kill the Dharma people (maybe even sacrifice his love Annie in the process?). He helps the Others get their island back. He also becomes a leader by organizing the coup from the inside, being able to communicate with the spirits of the island (the sixth sense), and by being able to fool the outside world into thinking all is as it should be on the Island (by keeping up communications, and thus keeping the food-drops coming).
Unfortunatelly, Dharma’s evil reign over the island left some dire consequences,i.e. women are not able to have babies. For years Ben does his best to find a solution to this problem, even bringing in experts from the outside (Juliette).
One day a plane crashes on the island. Ben knows this could spell dissaster. While he knows that the island is invisible to the outside world thanks to Dharma’s jamming/ clouding devices, these new people could seriously jeopardize him and his people. They take the children to keep them save (and fed, and housed,…)and warn the Losties to stay on their side of the island. But the Losties don’t listen.
The other problemis that the Losties are trying to find ways to get off the island. Something Ben knows he can’t allow to happen. As things begin to intensify, Ben is put under tremendous pressure. He can’t seem to keep everything going. In addition, there are amongst the Losties others like him- those with a sixth sense (Walt, Locke). He has always had a great faith and trust in the island, but now things are becoming unreveled. He is becoming desperate. This does not mean he has suddenly become a bad man, just that he is going through a trying period.
So overall, Ben is the good guy. He does know what is best. Will our Losties find this truth outin time? Will the island be saved? Will the islands power end up being used to end the world- or at least cause some harm? Will Jack realize in time that he and the other Losties are now meant to stay on the island?
What do you think?
Comment 4, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
I really like Wood’s analysis of the finale and his take on the consequences of Desmond’s actions for the *entire* time continuum. I, too, tend to think that the future we saw was a potential future… as I commented in the finale thread, I think it’d be strange to leave the “hero” of the series unredeemed in the end, and I think an attempt to get “back to the island” would be a bit hokey.
Finally, I hope that in 2010 Cuse & Lindelhof give us a comprehensive bibliography of the sources they used in developing the story.
Comment 5, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
I’m sorry but i re watched it he says EITHER friend or family not neither
Comment 6, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
To follow-up on the identity of person in the casket, here is what The Tail Section is purporting as the newspaper story deciphered:
“The body of John Lantham of New York was found shortly after 4 am in the 4300 block of Grand Avenue. Ted Worden, a doorman at the Tower Lofts complex, heard loud noises coming from the victim’s loft. Concerned for tenants’ safety, he entered the loft and found the body hanging from a beam in the living room. According to Jaime Ortiz, a police spokesman, the incident was deemed a suicide after medical tests. Latham is survived by one teenaged son. Memorial services will be held at the Hoffs-Drawlar Funeral Home tomorrow evening.”
Pretty interesting. Full story can be found here thetailsection.com/lost-news/l...
Comment 7, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
MKS;
Your analysis is brilliant. Now, if you can only explain the Polar bear.
Comment 8, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
i think jack will find his way back to the island IF he is really meant to be there. mrs. hawkins or whatever that old lady’s name is said that time has a way of course correcting which is why no matter what desmond did, charlie was gonna die and it will be why no matter how many times the losties try to get off the island they will always wind back up on it. and kate’s freckles “disappeared” because she had makeup on in the flash forward.
i think is ben is a good guy trying to do good things. he’s just going about it the wrong way.
MKS: i think you have a lot of good points, but you’re wrong about the Alex thing. if u’ll watch Solitare from S1 it tells how Danielle got to the island & Ben does not “save” Alex that way. He does “save” Alex tho in a way, because Danielle probably wouldn’t be able to care for Alex.
Comment 9, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
Will - re: the newspaper article…
I had mentioned this on the lengthy post for “Through the Looking Glass,” but the origin of the full transcript of the article is at the Fuselage. You can read about that here:
thefuselage.com/Threaded/showt...
And when you go to that site, you can click on their link for “The Obituary/Funeral thread” for many many pages of discussion of who is in the casket.
My first guess is someone we have not seen yet, someone who will become important in future seasons. My second guess is Michael, living under an assumed name.
Comment 10, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
ANonymus wrote:
It sounds like “either” to me, but IMHO, that would not make much sense. Most people would say “both”, or “neither”. My guess is he just didn’t enunciate very well, and he meant to say “neither”. Not that it really matters much.
(and I hate to keep referring people to The Fuselage, but there was an interesting discussion of this issue over there, complete with high-def and slowed down sound clips for people to listen to)
Comment 11, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
1) Charlie didn’t try to escape from the room because didn’t want Desmond to drown. We know that if the station flooded there’s no escape for anyone inside.
2) The Others are facing physical extinction and are losing motivation and unity. If a sort of Armageddon is coming soon against the ‘bad people’, they are going to lose. Only the alliance with some Losties (Jack from the future?) and the powers of the island could save them.
3) Naomi’s people are not Dharma. The Dharma Initiative is not searching for the island since they keep doing food-drops (Ben says that the bad guys “are been trying to find the island”). The Bad People are not related with Widmore since Penelope should have known from her father about the boat and Naomi. Maybe an evil secret branch of Dharma?
4) Flash-forward is going to become a usual technique in the next season. Two parallel stories are going to be exploited: how the losties and the others are facing the Naomi’s friends and how Jack and Kate (with Desmond and his powers?) are going to get back to the island changing the past.
If it’s true that Christian Shepherd is alive in the future, than something big will happen on the island in the present, capable of changing things so distant in time and so important like Jack’s father death (I don’t think that is only Des attempt to keep Charlie alive).
5) A message of the whole show is that it’s hard to define what’s good and what’s evil. I totally agree with MKS and his great analyis: Ben is not a bad guy. From his point of view, at least.
6) The man in the casket is a new character that will be probably introduced at the beginning of the next season, on the island, in the present. I don’t think is wise to believe the people who says they know what’s written in the article that future Jack reads on the plane. People who analysed it (screenshots edited with photoshop) says that the the newspaper clipping is unreadable in the middle, but it can suggest that the name of the dead party has a first name beginning with J and a last name ending with antham.
See lostpedia.com/wiki/Newspaper_c.... Note that Lostpedia removed any other interpretation of the lacking part that previously had published.
Comment 12, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
Bobola wrote:
Polar bears mate in the spring, but implementation of the egg doesn’t take place ’til the fall, then the female makes a den, goes into hibernation, the fetus develops, cub(s) is born. The gestation period for the cub is four months, but the mating takes place eight months earlier. Somehow the polar bears can slow down and almost stop the fetal development in that time. I think it would make sense for the Others to be interested in doing research on polar bears given their own reproductive problems and the bears unique reproductive abilities.
Comment 13, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
ANonymus wrote:
You’re right. I watched 3-4 times just for that line. He said “either.” Strange answer.
Comment 14, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
MKS wrote:
Polar bears mate in the spring, but implementation of the egg doesn’t take place ’til the fall, then the female makes a den, goes into hibernation, the fetus develops, cub(s) is born. The gestation period for the cub is four months, but the mating takes place eight months earlier. Somehow the polar bears can slow down and almost stop the fetal development in that time. I think it would make sense for the Others to be interested in doing research on polar bears given their own reproductive problems and the bears unique reproductive abilities.
Were the polar bears from Dharma or the Others? Seems to me that the bears were being researched by Dharma because of they appeared in an orientation video and not by the Others. I guess we still don’t know if the women’s issues are an old or new problem, but I took it as the bears were their for research into changing the Valenzetti equation and not for the Others.
Comment 15, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
Kates Freckles go bye bye alot sooner than at the end of the episode, thats why she says the line to Sawyer “Since when have u started calling me kate” he cant call her freckles coz she doesnt have any due to the spacetime change. If you look harder you can see subtle changes in Bernard, Jin, Hurley, Sawyer and Juliette. Im not going to unleash the whole theory here because its all on my blog.
Namaste.
Comment 16, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
“I’m planting a flag here — when Des saved Charlie, he changed that past and present as well as the future. Charlie couldn’t swim in the first season, and he’s all of a sudden a swimming champion who makes an impressive dive in “Greatest Hits,” a dive that Mikhail needed scuba gear for. Like Charlie’s newfound innate swimming ability, perhaps in the re-made past/present/future, Christian Shepherd didn’t die. And maybe that’s why Kate seems to be conspicuously lacking her trademark freckles.”
This may also explain why Kate is able to be “free” in the real world. Maybe in the flashforward she isn’t a fugitive?
Comment 17, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
Why isn’t “makeup” a reasonable answer for Kate’s complexion change? Seriously people, stretching much.
Comment 18, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
Tina wrote:
Could be Tina, but the show has put the clues in about “lost time”. Do we assume that they just a make up mistake by having Jack’s future beard all black but his current scruff has gray in it. I don’t think it’s that big of a stretch since the show has directed us to consider “lost time” and the implications of Des’s flashes and he and Charlie altering them.
Remember, we still don’t know exactly why Dez knew who Charlie was on the street corner and why Charlie didn’t know Des. It is because someone altered events by using free will instead of fate?
Comment 19, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
Tina wrote:
I agree. I think some might be over-thinking this.
Comment 20, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
With regards to who is in the casket, anyone else notice the casket seemed to be pretty short? I mainly noticed this when there was the overhead shot of Jack standing at the side of the casket, and it appeared to be relatively short. If that is the case, then it limits the amount of possibilities as to whom is actually in there, as there were no pygmies or midgets on the flight that we know of ;)
Although, the overhead shot seemed a little fuzzy or edited, as in possibly a forced perspective.
Comment 21, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
MKS wrote:
I agree. I think some might be over-thinking this.
Since you are quick to knock down the freckles change. What are your thought on why Charlie has gone from a person that can’t swim to a great swimmer after a few episodes of changing fate?
Comment 22, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
rejus: Naomi could be with dharma. Dharma did the food drops BEFORE the 2 hatches exploded. before locke blew up the flame (i think thats what mikhail’s hatch was called) he told dharma that the hostiles have tooken over the island. If 2 hatches exploding wasn’t enough reason for Dharma to come, being told that the hostiles have tooken over sure would be.
i agree with MKS that ben is not evil, or at least not as evil as we think he is. i think ben is a good guy doing good things but doing it the wrong way which is making him look like a bad guy. or maybe he is evil and i’m just trying to believe that there’s good in everyone (except of course juliet).
the polar bears didn’t come from polar bear town like sawyer said when he shot it. the polar bears came from the zoo where kate & sawyer were being kept by the others. remember tom told sawyer it only took the bears 2 hours (or something like that). and i think MKS is right about why the others might be interested in polar bears.
Comment 23, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
Hammer wrote:
I agree. I think some might be over-thinking this.
Since you are quick to knock down the freckles change. What are your thought on why Charlie has gone from a person that can’t swim to a great swimmer after a few episodes of changing fate?
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i think tina & mks are right here hammer. y’all are over thinkin this & looking to hard. sawyer is changing his ways. he’s laying off the nicknames on EVERYBODY if u haven’t noticed. no nicknames in this episode or last week i don’t think.
and as for charlie swimming maybe he had forgotten how to swim, cuz i don’t think drug addicted rock gods do that much swimming. i’m sure claire or somebody could’ve taught him how to swim in the 90+ days they’ve been there. what else are they gonna do on a deserted island? watch TV? play video games? i doubt it.
Comment 24, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
Hammer wrote:
I agree. I think some might be over-thinking this.
Since you are quick to knock down the freckles change. What are your thought on why Charlie has gone from a person that can’t swim to a great swimmer after a few episodes of changing fate?
I just think there is a difference between freckles (a physical trade-mark one can’t do much about, especially on a sunny island), and an ability (something one can learn or not). It’s not like people’s hair-colors, eye-colors, etc. have changed.
Comment 25, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
lost chicka wrote:
Poisoning your own father(in cold blood just ’cause he wasn’t a “nice” dad) and scores more to protect a secret island from people doing research to stop the end of the world…your right, no evil there.
In history, mortals have proven that ultimate power breeds evil. They start off good, but power always transforms to abuse of power. That is why Ben is in his current situation. Abuse of power breeds comtempt, an eventual rebellion, and the cycle begins again. Ben was seen as a savior for the island, now he’s abusing his power. The Others see Locke is special and may the “one” to save them from Ben’s wayward abuse of power.
Comment 26, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
MKS/Tina - I hear you, it’s just that the easter eggs are everywhere. People need to use everything they see to help support a theory. I haven’t looked at the early Kate flash backs to confirm, but I’m pretty sure she didn’t use make up before the crash, so I don’t feel it’s a huge stretch to think that we have been given a clue by change both Jack’s and Kate’s appearance in the futureflash.
Comment 27, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
Hammer wrote:
Poisoning your own father(in cold blood just ’cause he wasn’t a “nice” dad) and scores more to protect a secret island from people doing research to stop the end of the world…your right, no evil there.
In history, mortals have proven that ultimate power breeds evil. They start off good, but power always transforms to abuse of power. That is why Ben is in his current situation. Abuse of power breeds comtempt, an eventual rebellion, and the cycle begins again. Ben was seen as a savior for the island, now he’s abusing his power. The Others see Locke is special and may the “one” to save them from Ben’s wayward abuse of power.
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But remember that Kate also killed her own father (she might have thought it was her stepfather at the time but that does not make it better), Locke killed his father (he knew his father was going to die and had told Sawyer he would not let him out of there ’til ol’ dad was dead), Jin cut his dad out of his life permanently, etc. It’s not like Ben is somehow super-evil because he killed his dad (the Others/ Hostiles killed the rest of the Dharma people), not unless you also say that Locke, Kate, etc. are evil.
Comment 28, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
Hammer:
Charlie never said he was a bad swimmer, just that he didn’t swim. Doesn’t mean he couldn’t, just means he didn’t swim. I’m going with Lostchika, drug addicted rock stars probaby don’t swim too much, the paranoia might keep one out of the pool/ocean for fear of sharks and creepy crawlies.
As far as freckles/make up goes for Kate, the flash forward gives the implication that she’s living a life much different than the one she did while on the run. the makeup, fancy car, nice clothes all support this idea more than some kind of time jump that changes a genetic characteristic of a character. I think the freckles doubting is simply the concoction of overactive Lostlover imaginations.
Comment 29, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
rejus wrote:
I just figured that Charlie hd already resigned himself to die and was saving Desmond’s life by locking Desmond out. Penny was on the screen and Desmond would have run straight into the control room as well. There was no time to explain to Desmond about the grenade (plus Desmond probably would not have listened with the excitement of being in contact with Penny) so he just figured out in his mind this was where he was supposed to die.
Comment 30, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
Kathy wrote:
I just figured that Charlie hd already resigned himself to die and was saving Desmond’s life by locking Desmond out. Penny was on the screen and Desmond would have run straight into the control room as well. There was no time to explain to Desmond about the grenade (plus Desmond probably would not have listened with the excitement of being in contact with Penny) so he just figured out in his mind this was where he was supposed to die.
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I agree. There was no way to lock that room from the outside, and the only way to keep Desmond from that room (and thus from getting killed by the granade as well) was to lock him out.
Comment 31, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
What has not made sense to me for a while now is this. Ben was originally part of dharma and then he killed every. But that happened a long time ago. Ben looked much younger when he killed them. Plus that was before he had stolen his daughter. and she is 16 now. So it had to be over 16 years ago. So all the darhma people are dead. Yet darhma still sends desmond out to the island to manage that 1st hatch. And they are still doing the food drops. Someone else said that ben is the one communicating with darhma telling them that everything is fine. That seems strange to me. Ben was the janitor. Why would the people in charge of the food drops think the janitor is now goign to be the main and only point of contact with the outside world?
Comment 32, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
As far as Charlie escaping tho, it looked as if there was plenty of room for him to get out of the port that was blown in by the grenade. There even seemed to be a lingering moment showing the port over Charlie’s shoulder as he floated in the room. Intentional? Perhaps, but it certainly leaves the option that he could have waited for the room to equalize with the water pressure and then swam through the port. Though, again, that brings up the prediction part of Charlie perhaps thinking he needed to die in order for everyone else to be rescued.
Comment 33, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
By “explain the POLAR BEARS”…I meant;
WHY is it so FAKE looking…ha. The one that attacked Walt was like shag carpet.
Ok, escaped from a Zoo works for me. Good call.
BUT the comment that Charlie drowned so that Desmond would NOT…is unterlly absurd!
He stayed in that room because he thought he had to to fullfill the vision Des had of Claire geiing rescued.
(we have been over this.)
Plus; Charlie knew if he went back to the “world” he would just be a shadow of his mythic self after his fame from dying.
Now, if he had WANTED to; he could have easily walked into the HUGE room Desmond was in while the water was still low and they both had PLENTY of time to dive into the opening at the bottom from whence they came and swim back up to the surface. Possibly could have had all the time in the world too if they had been able to seal the door from Desmond’s side. Even with the door open, that BIG room was not going to get filled up for a while. Plenty of time—hell, the small room didn’t fill up all that fast either. The only trick was if he did not choose to escape right away, the pressure of the water would have kept the door closed (it opend into the room as I remember). Still might have swam out thru the broken port…HE WANTED TO DIE.
Polar Bear Joke;
Bear walks into a Bar
Bartender; “What will you have?”
A mintute passes and finally the Bear says;
“I’ll have a beer.”
Bartender; Hey, Why the big Pause?
That’s for you Lost Chica.
Comment 34, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
Thought I’d put in my own two cents on the freckles…
I have barely any half the year and faceful in summer (even with sunblock). Perhaps it is to merely say she doesn’t spend much time outdoors anymore, maybe she’s depressed like Jack. Also, alot of women as they get older, lose their freckles….and Jack having grey in his beard would also back the aging theory. I’d sure love to know why she is no longer a fugitive though!
Comment 35, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
Tina wrote:
I generally agres with this, and to take it a step further, back in season 1, he didn’t want to take a chance jumping into the potentially shark-infested waters, and just said something (”I don’t swim” or “I can’t swim” or whatever he said) that would be his excuse for not jumping in.
When he claimed to be a champion swimmer, he was most likely lying - he just wanted Jack and Sayid to agree to let him got to the LG station so he could fulfill Desmond’s vision.
Comment 36, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
I still wanna know if Nikki and Paolo were a goof or if their story was really meaningful. I haven’t seen anyone use that radio. Thoughts?
Comment 37, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
MKS wrote:
That is all good and fine - except - if the polar bears are truly in the southern hemisphere for any length of time, their reproductive cycle, hormones, gestation/fetal development will adapt to that solar influence - so when you say spring - fall may be the answer - and vice/versa.
Comment 38, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
lost chicka wrote:
Lost Chicka:Yeah, you made a good point and you’re probably right.
I said that because when Ben is talking about naomi’s people searching for the island it seems to me he knows they have been doing it for a very long time, but it’s just personal interpretation….
Comment 39, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
Something really strange in season 3 finale…In future-flash why does Jack say something like “if my father is not drunker than me you can fire me….”. Jacks father is dead….or is he?
Comment 40, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
jack’s dad is dead, i’m pretty sure jack was just being facetious (you can tell by the way the other dr. reacts; ie, rolling his eyes).. anyway, if jack’s dad wasn’t dead, jack would have never gone to the island.
Comment 41, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
Mabey I am all wonky, but has anyone considered something like a Lion Witch and the Wardrobe type thing happening? Kate has gotten freckles from being out in the sun on the island. Jack has gotten grey from all the stress he is under on the island. Poof, sometime in the future, everyone comes back to the real world, the spare room as it were, and are back in their original real world states, but still holding all the memories of the island. The kids in the book got old in Narnia, but came back to the real world the same age they left. The only question now, is when or how did they enter the wardrobe?
Comment 42, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
Meg wrote:
I think Mikhail was the person in charge of communication with the outside world and that throughout the relevant period (both before and after purge) he would have been the point of contact. This would make sense given Mikhail’s comments when Locke and company discovered the communication station and the “deal” Mikhail had with the others/hostiles.
Comment 43, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
Nathan wrote:
I like this idea, but that means nothing in the Losties real world lives would have changed and Kate would probably be in jail in the flashforward. Unless the way they get into the “wardrobe” is by the plane crash and in real life they crash, but don’t spend however long on an island fighting for their lives. And so if the crash is the journey through the wardrobe how do they get back?
Comment 44, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
Meg wrote:
Dharma did not send Desmond to manage the hatch. He was on a solo race around the world for the widmore company when he crashed and the guy originally in the hatch thought he may have been his replacement. Desmond ended up killing this guy when he found out that his boat had been restored by him and that guy had lied to him about most everything.
Comment 45, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
your show is totally wicked, i watch sti every wednesday, im a big fan. i think that people who dont watch it are just freaks because dey stupio, its da best show ever!peace!!!
love,hottie
p.s.tell jack and sowyer that i love them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment 46, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
lost is the best show ever, it has alot of mysteries which kind of get me thinking alot. (i love swoyer)
Comment 47, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
i agree with whats her face, because charlie only locked himself out to save desmond , and if he wouldn’t have locked the door from desmond trying to save him, teh whole entire place would have flooded
Comment 48, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
Two questions —
Why does Naomi tell the Losties they’re all dead on the outside? There’s no reason to believe her, but what advantage does she gain from telling the story?
In the last scene outside the airfield, to whom does Kate have to get home?
Comment 49, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
Curiously two .com websites have sprung up based on Jack and Kate’s licence plate numbers (2SAQ321 & 4QKD695 respectively) from the Season 3 finale.
There appears to be some kind of ARG going on. It is creating a buzz in many of the Lost forums as new clues appear.
Comment 50, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
CERTAINLY LOTS OF TWISTS AND MYSTRIES IN SEASON 3 AND ASSUMPTIONS TO BE MADE. I AGREE IF THAT IS JACKS FUTURE STAY ON THE ISLAND MATE. I WAS CONFUSED AT FIRST WHEN SHOWING JACK WITH A BEARD AND BEING AN ALCOHOLIC AND PILL POPPER, THEN WHEN HE MENTIONED HIS FATHER I THOUGHT WE HAD GONE FURTHER BACK INTOHIS PAST - UNTIL THE END WHEN HE MET KATE AND SAID HE GOT ON THE PLANE EACH WEEK HOPING IT WOULD CRASH AND TAKE THEM BACK- WAIT IN ANTISIPATION FOR THE NEXT SEASON WAS NOT SURE IF THERE WAS ANOTHER- IT WOULD HAVE BEEN DISAPPOINTED IF THAT WAS THE END
Comment 51, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
clabberking wrote:
What if Kate has to get home to the marshall that was chasing her. In her flashbacks, it seemed that his pursuit of Kate was more of a personal nature.
Comment 52, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
Nice to read all the views, here is mine:
The ship does “pinpoint” the lost crew but with explosives! Jack is dazed and dreaming. He did just tell Kate he loved her so who else would be in his subconcious? Well needless to say, Loveable ol Ben saves them from the ship and here we go with more LOST!! thanks for sharing all.
Comment 53, posted 1 year, 5 months ago - Quote and reply
kate’s using makeup. what could that mean??? the i wanna wear makeup gene is finally kicking in? or maybe she finally has someone to look nice for.
ben didn’t have to sign letters/emails/whatever as Ben Linus - Janitor. he could’ve used whoever was in charge’s name.
did the guy in the yellow tee look like paulo to anybody else? they showed him a lot in this ep. hmmm???? ;P