Ji Yeon
1 year, 3 months ago by WillRead more: Lost Episodes, season 4, Sun
So what do we know about tonight’s episode?
- Most of the actors/actresses involved with Lost have referred to this particular episode as “the most shocking” of the first seven – that alone sends chills up my spine
- Ji Yeon does not literally translate to anything (as far as I have been able to research, staying away from spoiler-filled info) – so it is probably a reference to the name of a person we will meet tonight
Spoiler Warning
ABC’s Official Show Description
“Juliet is forced to reveal some startling news to Jin when Sun threatens to move to Locke’s camp. Meanwhile, Sayid and Desmond begin to get an idea of the freighter crew’s mission when they meet the ship’s Captain”
So – what could the “shocking” development be? We know that this episode will be divided between the Island and the Freighter – so one might assume that the shocker will be the big reveal of Michael as Ben’s man on the boat (if you subscribe to that theory)… But, I think that is too obvious and something much grander will take place tonight, especially in light of the fact that we have to wait another four weeks for Episode 8.
Episode Preview
Here are an over-abundance of sneak peeks for this week’s episode:
Sneak Peek 1 | Sneak Peek 2 | Sneak Peek 3 | Sneak Peek 4 | Sneak Peek 5 | Sneak Peek 6
Comment 1, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Ha! First!
I can’t wait to find out who Ben’s man on the boat is. But there are other questions I’m dying to have answered
1. What’s the story behind the four-toed statue and the temple?
2. Who is Jacob and what are his powers?
Anyone have any info on these?
Comment 2, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Ha! Second! I can’t wait either. Finally, hopefully, we’ll be able to put to bed the whole “who is Ben’s man on the freighter”. Less than 4 hours to go, for the enhanced ep, that is!
Comment 3, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
pretty sure that we get one more episode next week before the non-hiatus break. I know they had discussed breaking after this one, but I think in the end they decided to show all 8 and then do the break.
Comment 4, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
I know plenty of people think having Michael on the freighter wouldn’t be surprising. But I think the people on this blog are very unique. They have really dissected this show. Where as the majority of the people who watch this show probably never even considered Michael. I would imagine the people that read this blog are in a very tiny group of the viewership. It may not surprise you but it will surprise 99% of the viewers. Just my opinion.
Comment 5, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Sawyer’s Evil Twin wrote:
It would supprise me because I still think that although Michael may be there Walt is Ben’s man. Much of the logic behind it being Michael is that we know he is returning to the show and think this is where he will show up. After more thought I don’t think Michael would make a good spy for Ben. He reacts without thinking and I just don’t think he is smart enough to do what Ben needs. I guess we will all find out tonight.
Comment 6, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
i agree that Michael being Ben’s man on the boat is wayy to predictable. michael will show his face on the show soon enough, but being the man on the boat is too easy. he might be one of the Oceanic 6(8), along with Walt, since Ben let them leave.
i think Sayid might be Ben’s man on the boat since we already know that Sayid is working for Ben in the future. Or it could be Desmond, secretly working with Ben since he has his own reasons to get off the island. Ben and Desmond havent really reacted with each other at all in any episode in any season, its a very broad possibility. Both Sayid and Desmond volunteered to go to the freighter, and Sayid even convinced Jack not to go (i may be pushing it on this theory, i dont quite remember this specific interaction between them, but i know they talked).
My house goes on Lost lockdown in T minus 4 hours…
Comment 7, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
I hope that today we find out who Ben’s man is. I have a feeling that its going to shock us! He is probably not going to be Sayid, Michael or Walt. But who knows. I can’t wait for this episode because I read a few things and its going to be GOOD! I also want to find out who the Oceanic 6 are going to be. I think that its going to be Jack, Kate, Hugo, Sayid, Aaron and Jin.
Comment 8, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Okay okay… the O6
Jack
Kate
Hurley
Sayid
Michael
Walt
We already know that Walt and Michael have left the island (may even be back with the freighter) however, since they left the island… the would be part of the O6
Which is better Lost food?
Pizza, Spaghetti, or Mexican takeout??? Hmm?
3 1/2 hours.. yay!
Comment 9, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Hard to think that this could be the most shocking ep after what we’ve seen already…what a great season!
Comment 10, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Julie wrote:
We know the four…I think it’s rather obvious, by the title name, that at least Sun is one of them. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Jin is the other one. Just because Michael is Ben’s MOB, doesn’t mean he was ever exposed to the real world as being a survivor
Comment 11, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
lost4ever wrote:
We know the four…I think it’s rather obvious, by the title name, that at least Sun is one of them. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Jin is the other one. Just because Michael is Ben’s MOB, doesn’t mean he was ever exposed to the real world as being a survivor
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No, but that’s my opinion and just because a show is centered around someone doesn’t mean that person is going to make it off the island or that they are included in the O6.
Comment 12, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
I hope nobody is disappointed tonight but I believe we are going to find out (finally) who the O6 are. NEXT week they are supposed to reveal who “Ben’s man” is. It would be wonderful if they explained both tonight but I do believe we have another week to wait for the the man on the SHIP reveal.
Hammer, can’t make LAA tonight, I am behind on reading the posts!
Comment 13, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Rita, I beat you to the Blog! (big grin)
Comment 14, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
what about this. ” Clair finds out where Miles is and goes to see him, but as she enters the boat hut,Miles releases his breakfast. BOOM! OUCH “
Comment 15, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Trixanna wrote:
They have said Ben’s man will be revealed tonite.
Comment 16, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Lins wrote:
This may be a bit spoilerish - Will & Nick feel free to delete if necessary….
I recall D&C saying that this episode has a sort of cliffhanger at the end. ( and because of that, they had suggested to ABC that they make this the last episode aired before the hiatus, but ABC overruled them)
Comment 17, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Thanks Lost4ever, I misunderstood somewhere along the line! How exciting is that then??? We will learn who the O6 are AND who the man on the boat is??? I can’t wait!
What is this talk about a hiatus? Are they taking a break? When and for how long? This may give me time to re-watch the first 3 seasons again or quite possibly get a life for a few weeks. I’ve been trying to figure out how to tell my niece I can’t finish the stained glass project for her wedding in May! Yikes!!! (Just kidding, I think)
Comment 18, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
1- OK Losties…my prediction on “Ben’s man on the Boat” is…… Locke!!!,how would that grab yea.Who ever it is ,it will be cool.
2- Where are the Rousseau Girls ???,they are not on the Beach with Jacko,they didnt go to the “Temple” with Alpert,and they are not at “Othertown” with Locke/Bens crew either,so what gives?
Comment 19, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
The hiatus blunder was my fault - I’ve erased from the post to cause further confusion. We will get Episode 8 next week and then the 4 week break. Toeknee - I’ve actually read episode 7 and 8 provide shockers - but reiterate what I put in the original post about this one being defined as the “most shocking” of what we have seen thus far - pretty interesting considering my head is still spinning from the Economist and the Constant.
Comment 20, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Ps…on the Podcast ,C&L said it is not important who the o6 are,its another Lost side issue…Hey they said it not me:)
Comment 21, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Trixanna wrote:
I haven’t seen where they have said how long the break will be…maybe a month im guessing. They are supposed to have 5 more episodes after. I’m sure the braintrusts at abc will time the finale with sweepsweek, last year i think it ended the week b4 memorail day.
Comment 22, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Ji Yeon Has to be the Name of her child. Both her and Jin wanted parts of there parents names in there childs name.
Comment 23, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Toeknee wrote:
> I think the Ep7 “a better cliffhanger” thing was designed for the original ‘7 - take a break - then 8+’ plan. Since then the thought is that they may back to a number 8 cliffhanger. Two days in HD editing makes it a 7-hanger, another 2 days switches it back to an 8-hanger.
> I am betting that 8 is the hanger and 7 is simply a “shocker”. Side bet that Sun (Kim Yoon-Jin) may be a mort (dead meat) as a result of this episode. Claire is my alt pick for deadie.
> We won’t get ‘SPY-on-boat’ until Ep8 or later.
Comment 24, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Ji Yeon - “Island Baby” Killer
My third pick for deadie is Jin (aka DUI Gin)
Comment 25, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
PoopyPants wrote:
I seem to remember Claire telling Kate (during the laundry scene) that she saw Rousseau take Ben to the basement of “Locke’s” house in New Otherton. That would lead one to believe that Rousseau (and probably Alex) are actually in Locke’s camp.
Someone asked about the “break” between the first eight and the last five episodes. This is necessary because of the WGA strike. D&C have promised that the remaining three episodes “owed to us” for this season WILL be made up in seasons to come. We WILL get our final 48 to finish out the series as promised - just not three blocks of 16 as originally planned.
: ) P
Comment 26, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Julie, where have you been?
Trix, meeting started 3 mins. ago…you can still make it.
DocH, like your bets on people assuming ambient temperature.
Haa, I’m twentysomthing…
Comment 27, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Julie wrote:
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Chicken wings!
Comment 28, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
re rousseau Gigls,thx PJ.
Comment 29, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Toeknee wrote:
This may be a bit spoilerish - Will & Nick feel free to delete if necessary….
I recall D&C saying that this episode has a sort of cliffhanger at the end. ( and because of that, they had suggested to ABC that they make this the last episode aired before the hiatus, but ABC overruled them)
Just quoting what was in the original post…didn’t think re-stating something that had already been said would be spoilerish…but sorry if I’ve offended anyone :)
Comment 30, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Julie wrote:
None of these:
Carrots (what did one snowman say to the other?), DHARMA beer (Ben’s dad) or wine in a box(Saywer and Kate) if you prefer, DHARMA peanut butter (or imaginary brand ala Charlie and Claire), sushi (Jin), and of course papaya!
Comment 31, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Lins wrote:
This may be a bit spoilerish - Will & Nick feel free to delete if necessary….
I recall D&C saying that this episode has a sort of cliffhanger at the end. ( and because of that, they had suggested to ABC that they make this the last episode aired before the hiatus, but ABC overruled them)
Just quoting what was in the original post…didn’t think re-stating something that had already been said would be spoilerish…but sorry if I’ve offended anyone :)
No no no no…Lins - sorry for the misunderstanding. You’re right - you just repeated something from the original post - you did nothing wrong. When I said “spoilerish”, I was referring to the information I gave in that comment.
Comment 32, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
PoopyPants wrote:
Are you thinking maybe about the 8 people that survived the crash, per Jack’s testimony in Eggtown? I heard that question asked in a podcast - someone wanted to know if it’s important to know who the 2 people beside the O6 are, adn D&C said no, because is was a lie anyway.
I’d say that the identities of the O6 will be quite important, as that will affect the future of the show.
Comment 33, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Toeknee wrote:
Are you thinking maybe about the 8 people that survived the crash, per Jack’s testimony in Eggtown? I heard that question asked in a podcast - someone wanted to know if it’s important to know who the 2 people beside the O6 are, adn D&C said no, because is was a lie anyway.
I’d say that the identities of the O6 will be quite important, as that will affect the future of the show.
That’s how I interpreted it as well. O6ers=important, the other 2=lie(we will likely never hear who they were).
Comment 34, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Perhaps you are right,I will re listen.
Comment 35, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Here I am Trixanna! You beat me to the blog PHYSICALLY, but MENTALLY I was here first!! My consciousness was travelling, just got back…
Comment 36, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Hammer. How is the Detroit Chapter of L.A.A. handling the Enhanced Version of T.O.W.? Half of our Chapter here in the South West insist on watching the Red Wings vs. Stars hockey match. Seems the two best teams in hockey are in a championship prequel….
Comment 37, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Gotta admit that since I already watched this ep. 3 times, I’m watching the game. Stars fan? I’d like to see these two in the finals. When we’re done with this, maybe Will can edit…
Comment 38, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Just thought of this, but having Michael Ben’s MOB would be something Locke needed to sit down for, because he knows they kidnapped Walt, so why would Michael start helping Ben out? Plus Locke believe dude got off the island. Sorry folks, it’s Michael.
It’s a good thing too, because I couldn’t find the right shark jumping music track.
Comment 39, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Just watching the enhanced version of “The Other Woman.” Did anyone catch the Dyson commercial? The Dyson guy references “Faraday’s Engine.” Here’s what I found on it on Wiki. Do we have to start watching all the commercials for clues now too? It would suck for us - but be brialliant for advertising dollars.
Faraday’s disk
Faraday diskIn 1831-1832 Michael Faraday discovered the principle that electromagnetic generators are based on principle later called Faraday’s law; that a potential difference is generated between the ends of an electrical conductor that moves perpendicular to a magnetic field. He also built the first generator, called the ‘Faraday disc’, a type of homopolar generator, using a copper disc rotating between the poles of a horseshoe magnet. It produced a small DC voltage, and large amounts of current.
This design was inefficient due to self-cancelling counterflows of current in regions not under the influence of the magnetic field. While current flow was induced directly underneath the magnet, the current would circulate backwards in regions outside the influence of the magnetic field. This counterflow limits the power output to the pickup wires, and induces waste heating of the copper disc.
Later homopolar generators would solve this problem by using an array of magnets arranged around the disc perimeter to maintain a steady field effect in one current-flow direction.
Comment 40, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
yes! comment no. 39! mwahahahahahahahahaha….
i can’t wait for tonight’s episode!!! good guess michael (c22) on the title!!!
great meal plan hammer (c30)!lol….but you forgot the last 2 eggs, rabbit (with a number on it?), and strawberries (remember kate had them at her mysterious meal with ben last season?)….
Comment 41, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
ahh, man i got comment 40 instead! :(
Comment 42, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
ridiculous info: michael faraday was born on september 22 (day plane crashed), and my parents were married on 4/23!
Comment 43, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
lost chicka wrote:
Big meal, we forgot the boar meat!!
Comment 44, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Hammer wrote:
Big meal, we forgot the boar meat!!
and the grenade appetizers!
Comment 45, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
I knew Sun was on O6er!! JK.
Comment 46, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Wow, so Sun is one of the O6!!! I was hoping she would be!!
Comment 47, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Michael wrote:
You were right!!! Good guess!!
Comment 48, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Rita wrote:
Big meal, we forgot the boar meat!!
and the grenade appetizers!
Iced tea for those under 21. And “fish crackers.”
Comment 49, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
So the six are Jin, Sun, Jack, Kate, Hurley and Sayid?
Comment 50, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
I think Jack’s story in court isnt so wrong….O6 survive but 2 die….Sun dies….that is the shocking part of this episode
Comment 51, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
MM wrote:
Uh, yea. I guess I can finally admit defeat on the Aaron thing.
Comment 52, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
MM wrote:
Evan wrote:
Maybe, that would be neat, but they would have been called the O8 and Jack wouldn’t have said that the other 2 didn’t make it off the island…
Comment 53, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Keep in mind what Bernard said, “This is place is all about karma” —maybe one of the biggest lines in the show
Comment 54, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Evan wrote:
Yes and I’m thinking that Jin is worried about his karma, remembering all the things he did pre-island.
Comment 55, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Oh man, sorry to keep writing such short one liners, but this show really is bringing up some questions….those dead bodies in the plane? connected to ben’s list?
Comment 56, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
MICHAEL!!!!! haha
Comment 57, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
And so it begins…
Everyone was right about Michael. But why????
Comment 58, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Okay, Micheal is Kevin, so he must have gotten to the real world to get a new ID which is easy for Ben to do ala his stash of passports and money. So, did Ben send Michael to the past in order to set this up correctly?
Comment 59, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
are yall watching the show or hust blogging before everyone can even finish watching… ya micheal….whats up with that girl jumping off the ship, and the ships name was karma….
Comment 60, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
OK. Help me out. I just started watching this season and my fiancee who normally fills me in on the back story is out with friends. Who is Michael? Is he the janitor? didn’t they call hhim by another name?
Comment 61, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Also, Walt doesn’t have to be with Michael on the boat. He is making himself appear?…from where?
Comment 62, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Michaels BACKKKKKKK!
Comment 63, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
I do think it’s very interesting that in the flash forward, Jin is very angry again after all of the retribution, I would have thought he would have changed.
Wait! What the????????
Comment 64, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
So maybe Jin is not an O6er, because Paik is involved with Widmore? Fake death? Why?
Aaron an O6er then?
Comment 65, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
a flashback and flashfoward episode. that sucks about jin…….
Comment 66, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
WTF?????????????????
Comment 67, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
MM wrote:
Think Jin may be one of the 8.
Comment 68, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Hammer wrote:
I think he is now. Wow. We need a screencap of that tombstone, not that it may reveal the exact date.
The preview of next week makes it seem like Ben got to Walt again. I think Jin was a flashback, and Sun was a flash forward.
Comment 69, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Did anyone catch the numbers on the grave stone?
Comment 70, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Damn! RIP Jin. That was a pretty sad revelation. Pretty well done. Not sure I see why they felt the need to fake us out with Jin’s flashback – it didn’t really tell us much about Jin that we didn’t already know, so it seems the only point of it was to fake us.
Still, a good episode.
Does Jin die on the island? So he’s not one of the O6? (he’s one of the “8” that survived the crash?) That would make Aaron one of the O6. (sorry if a bunch of people already wrote this)
I’d love to hear what’s on that black box
Regina, we hardly knew ye.
Comment 71, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
so sun thinks jin is dead…jin is working for ben in the future like sahid….micheal is back and he is the spy…and what is hurly doing in korea to see suns baby, isnt he suppose to be in a mental institute??
Comment 72, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Some of you think Jin’s story was a flashforward? I didn’t think so - I think he’s really dead - Sun was talking to the gravestone as if he really were dead.
Comment 73, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
I wonder if what the captain said was true - that Ben arranged for the fake Oceanic 815 wreckage?
Comment 74, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Okay, I get it now, Jin’s death isn’t fake.
Might still be premature, but feel vindicated that Aaron can be on O6er if not on the manifest, he was still on the plane and therefore a survivor.
I still don’t think the other 2 will be revealed.
Comment 75, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
15 minutes to get on the lost blog? 19 minutes to get this thread? now isn’t that just cruel and unusual punishment?
kevin johnson look familiar to anybody?? perhaps like michael? **evil laugh** (i’m really into those tonight!) and some of you thought it was to easy? (i’m just having fun here) i was screaming i was so happy it was him! now hurley can run him over with the bus for killing libby!!! yes, i’m still hurt over that.
omg! jin can NOT die!!!!! i was so unbelievably sad when that happened! no, he can’t! this is worse than when charlie died!!! sun & jin are my favorite!!! i’m gonna cry myself to sleep tonight! jk about crying myself to sleep, i’m not that sad….
i don’t like juliet anymore, i liked her for a while, but nope not anymore. how could she do that to sun & jin! telling on sun like that, tsk tsk!!
Hammer how could we have possibly forgotten the boar???? And the grenades, iced tea, and fish crackers are all must haves to Rita & Circus Mom!
Oh, and ben has to do with the plane?!?! shocker, didn’t see that one coming! i thought it was widimores! tho it very well could be them, couldn’t it?
Comment 76, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
I agree. Jin is flahsback, Sun is flashforward. Two questions — what year is the year of the dragon? That will settle it. It was referenced in Jin’s story. Also, someone please translate the tombstone!
Comment 77, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
kel wrote:
my husband caught the numbers and thanks to tivo:
on the left side (what is probably Sun’s DOB: 3/20/1980)
on the right side….
(Jin’s date of birth)
11/27/1974
(Jin’s date of death)
9/22/2004 (the day the plane crashed!!!!!!!)
Comment 78, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
That ending confused the shit out of me y was she asking for Gin when he’s dead, and the Gin FF’s were really FB’s right? WHY would they do that to us.
Also does this mean GIn was in the coffin in last seasons finale.
And Ben fakeing the crash was creepy, how did he kill all those people and get a fake plane. That takes a lot of people and resources for someone who “seems” to only have 30 or so followers on a island in the middle of nowhere
Comment 79, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
This show is so confusing. It’s like a puzzle. I have nothing to say right now:(
Comment 80, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Ben crashed a whole other plane with people ( dead or alive) on it to hide his Island.
The captain looks kinda like the guy Widmore was beating in the video.
Comment 81, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
This show is so confusing. It’s like a puzzle. I have nothing to say right now:(
Comment 82, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
pandakim wrote:
my husband caught the numbers and thanks to tivo:
on the left side (what is probably Sun’s DOB: 3/20/1980)
on the right side….
(Jin’s date of birth)
11/27/1974
(Jin’s date of death)
9/22/2004 (the day the plane crashed!!!!!!!)
I see the same…so Jin dies on the island because Hugo came to see the baby and visit Jin’s grave, if Hugo and Sun knew he was really still on the island they woudn’t need to visit the grave.
Comment 83, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
So why did Hurley say “Good” when Sun said no one else was going to the cemetery with them?
Comment 84, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
When Sun is in her hotel room before she makes a phone call she turns off the tv. on the tv is a scene where a man in a suit with long hair has a brief case full of cash opened to a man in a cowboy hat and alady walking in the door looking surprized. Sounds a lot like Sawyers story. Does this mean sawyer could be one of the 6 or 8?
Comment 85, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
i don’t think jin is really dead. i think he’s still on the island. his date of death was the day the plane crashed, and his death must be part of the “story” everyone the O6 are telling everyone. i think when sun says she missed jin, she’s missing him because he’s on the island, not dead.
Comment 86, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
IF we find out who the other 2 are, I am going with Jin and Claire. Sun would be allowed to bring her husband’s body home and Jack (if he finds out Claire is his sister) would be allowed to bring his sister home or Aaron’s real mom would be allowed to be brought home.
Comment 87, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
If the date of death on the tombstone is 9/22/04, then maybe in reality (well, the reality of the sho) Jin didn’t die? Maybe he’s still on the island for some reason? I mean, if he really is dead, why would the O6 have to tell the world he died in the plane crash?
Comment 88, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
So, Ben and his team constructed the fake crash to get Widmore off the scent of the island?
Ben still has Walt captive?
Jin is not an O6′r, so does that mean that Aaron is?
The best part about this episode was the convo Bernard had with Jin and the convo that Jin had with Sun after the fishing trip. Oh yeah, and ofcourse finally finding out that Michael is Ben’s man on the boat!
Comment 89, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Hey Omar, comment 59…. I thought the boat said Karma too but it didnt. It said “Kahana” and when you look it up one of the meanings is hawaiian for basically “to go with the surf” and it is also the name of a state park in hawaii. I think a couple weeks ago the little facts on the bottom mentioned they got a local hawaiian research ship for the part so that seems logical.
Comment 90, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
I hope this hasn’t been posted yet…access to this blog has been very slow for me….
2000 and 2012 are the closest Years of the Dragon, so based on that, Jin’s story was most likely a flashback.
Comment 91, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
I usually just come on here to read what everybody has to say but tonight I’m going to add something :)
I really think that Jin is still alive on the island. And possibly Claire will be also. The gravestone had the date of the plane crash as his death. Its a fake gravesite. And Sun said that “I miss you”, she didn’t say anything about him being dead. The O6 come back to the real world and tell this big lie and that is what leads to Jack going crazy and wanting to go back…because they are living with the guilt of knowing they left everybody alive on the island.
Comment 92, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Jin must be a flashback. the year of the dragon is either 1988, 2000 or 2012. So Jin’s flash was likely occuring in 2000.
What still needs to be explained is why the grave says he died the day the plane crash? That would make him neither an O6 nor an O8.
So is he really dead, or just still on the island, and sun and hurley’s way if showing him the baby is to go to that fake grave? I have to see that scene again. Does Sun acts like he is really dead? or just still on the island?
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Toeknee wrote:
That and he used his real name when at the hospital, if it were a FF and a fake death, he would need a “Kevin Johnson”. :)
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Michael wrote:
Good call on Ji Yeon, but what do you mean about their parents’ names? I don’t think we know their parents’ first names, do we?
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Since when did this blog, usually filled with amazing revelations, become a personal chat board? I don’t mean to be Debbie Downer, but please keep your personal “shout outs” to e-mail or another forum. I cannot believe that I just read through 87 posts and maybe a third of them had nothing to do with LOST.
Moving on to the show…
1. I’m totally confused. Is Jin really dead? Was that a flashback mixed with a flash forward? Did Sun’s father, much like Penny’s, have something to do with faking a death? I noticed the date of death was 9/22/04.
2. Why do the Oceanic 6 have to pretend they are the only ones who survived? Does Aaron count as an O6er? Who is directing this lie?
3. Did Penny’s father arrange the fake crash or did Dharma? And who are the 324 dead people?? What does Ben have to do with it? Is he so desperate to keep the island a secret?
4. Why is Michael working for Ben? We know Ben is a liar and always calls in favors but since Michael brought him Jack, Sawyer, Kate and Hurley, you’d think they’d be even. I guess not.
5. Why was Hurley glad no one else was coming to Korea to see the baby?
6. I found Jin’s forgiveness speech confusing. His words went like this:
I withheld my affections…I know what you did, you did to that man…his actions caused this. So I forgive you.
What does that mean?????????? His actions caused the affair? It’s weird how quickly he forgave her. Very touching, but strange.
7. So happy to see Bernard! He and Jin have opposite situations…Jin’s wife dies if she does NOT leave the island, Bernard’s wife dies if she does. Tough call.
8. Who got shot in the head on the boat? That blood stain looked like an execution-type murder.
9. Why did Regina kill herself? Or is she really dead? Could she have gone to another underwater station?
10. The captain is very good looking :) I’d trust him more than Ben or Michael.
11. I still do not trust Juliet…she’s very underhanded, despite good intentions.
Well, that’s it! If anyone can shed light on my questions, I’d greatly appreciate it. I hope next episode’s blog is filled with useful info!!!
Comment 96, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Maybe the main place Sun and Hurley are going is not the cemetery. Maybe it is just a stopover and they are going to some other major event.
That would explain why Sun called out for Jin during the delivery. She was given some kind of medication and wasn’t concentrating on the “official” story.
Both her and Hurley are dressed in black though so I wonder where else they could be going.
And why didn’t Jack show up? Was this before he flipped out?
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NO, on the gravestone it had his date of birth on one side… and the other was the date of the crash. 2004, 9/22… so the O6 had to make up some story to say that Jin died in the crash. It’s likely he’s still alive on the Island b/c the scene in the grave yard seems like sun is still talking to Jin.
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My stray thought. Jin got Sun pregs before 815. Jin has been a vision, the entire time… like Walt, Chris Shep, etc… since before the flight. Or, Jin died when 815 crashed. Remember all of the “look at the wedding ring” shots. Jin was a vision the entire time. Bernard was fish-busting, ghost-busting the whole time… sending ghost Jin to the great beyond with his ‘kharma’ lecture. Heck… Rose may be past history as well.
I am just happy Sun’s baby didn’t have a Sawyer-doo and start spouting Red Neck Nicknames…
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Found it wierd when Sayid stated that the boat was not moving and the doc maid some remark as if he was disagreeing.
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Becky wrote:
I can’t believe I just read a huge post that added nothing to our personal discussions and just asked a bunch of unanswerable questions.
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Becky wrote:
I dont think i have ever seen u on here before….and for the questions…what???
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Becky wrote:
It was a bit confusing…He started it out saying something about the man he used to be and how that caused Sun to cheat on him. So when he kept referring to “that man”, he was talking about himself.
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Okay, this may be totally crazy, but is it possible that Walt is still the “man” on the ship? I KNOW that Michael is ON the ship but Walt could still be the spy.
Why was Hurley the only 06er that went to Sun’s side? He looked happy that nobody else came, why?
Becky, I know some of my comments were not related to the show and I am sorry for posting them. I think a lot of people are really geeked about the show and the blog and just wanted to burn off some energy before the episode and say hello to people who have become like friends in an some way. I know I have not been disappointed in tonight’s posts, it’s a lot of fun to read.
Comment 104, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
i don’t know if i’d prefer jin on the island unreachable for sun or dead and still unreachable for sun….but either way jin is totally not the man in the coffin, he would at the very least have sun there. i’m surprised hurley is the only one that would come to see sun & jin’s baby. no kate who was there when sun found out she was pregnant and one of her island buddies. jack doesn’t come who was one of her baby doctor’s on the island and is one of the people i’d think would be there making sure ji yeon & sun are still ok, especially if he’s always traveling to asia with his golden pass. juliet doesn’t come to see if babies born off the island but concieved on the island can be born (even if she’s not part of the 06)since she was so concerned this episode about it. i mean, nobody but hurley? they really are all disconnected!
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INCREDIBLE !!!
I can’t believe I even waited this long. I think I read an earlier post about waiting 15 minutes to get “into” this site. Is this “thing” too popular now so that after the latest episode finishes the servers are overwhelmed ?
If you look at the the time stamps, I counted 63 posts BEFORE the episode was even over.
Anyway, I had to rewatch those last 5 minutes again and I remember the numbers on the grave marker in pairs 4-4, 11-9, 22-27 plus others I’d have to rewatch again. That’s reading left to right (Korean/Chinese could be different).
My take was that Jin had to survive the rescue because he was trying to get to the hospital as Sun was about to deliver and must have been killed right after he got his phone smashed and lost his taxi to . . . who?
The scene where he was taking the panda to the “Ambassador” must depict him as working for Suns’ father BEFORE they left Korea (he said he had only been married 2 months) and was actually a flashback.
The “Man on the Boat”: The obvious, but as someone said, it wouldn’t necessarily seem obvious to the casual viewer who doesn’t obsess like we do.
And correct me if I’m wrong, wasn’t that Nikki who jumped off the boa . . . er, ship ?
You know what they said: “Things don’t stay buried on this Island”
The Captains Name: What did he say his name was ?
In general, a great ep. They answered a few questions and set us up for a real “cliffhanger” next week.
Does anyone know the schedule ? Is it 1 more ep and then a wait until September or what ?
Comment 106, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Jin is alive. He said he would do whatever it takes to ensure the safey of Sun and the baby–including staying behind on the island if it were required. For some reason, then, he must have stayed behind so Sun and the baby could leave and survive. Sun continues to grieve and miss him because he is alive.
If the above is true, then it ups the stakes for getting back to the island. The stage is being sent for the great return to the island in the subsequent seasons. Maybe Sayid is working for Ben so that his friends can one day return and be reunited with the island and its inhabitants.
Comment 107, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
“…Found it wierd when Sayid stated that the boat was not moving and the doc maid some remark as if he was disagreeing….”
And Sayid also said he heard some noises that sounded man made rather than machine made.
Maybe the ship captain wants them to think they are moving but they are really stuck. So they are making fake noises to sound like the ship is going somewhere.
But why would it matter if the ship wasn’t going anywhere? Where should they be going?
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man all these numbers im getting off this show, i think im gonna go play the lottery.. the show might be lucky for me somehow..
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lost chicka wrote:
Yeah I thought that was a bit contrived. A pretty big breach of trust. I can sort of understand her supposed motives, but you’d think she could find other ways of “convincing” Sun to stay. Where’s that gun she had in the last episode?
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Tim wrote:
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um i think this is after jack flipped out cause if Gin was the person the funeral was forback in season 3 finale (whitch kinda doesnt make sence cause y would that be in America) then this was after jack flipped out cause he was a drunk with beard when the funeral happend, which means hurley gets out of the mental home.
Comment 111, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Jin married 2+ months when he died (in the crash).
Sun delivers as an OA-Sixer. Jin or Jae is daddy?
Jae is dad, because Jin can’t conceive after death.
Time distortion confirms Sun’s ‘accelerated’ pregnancy is less than 9 months.
Sun lives because conception was pre 815.
Gin dies because of Disney anti-DUI policy.
Hurley adopts baby Ji Yeon. Marries Sun. Moves to LA suburbs. Hires Kate as nanny. Jack as pediatrician. Sayid as security…
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Toeknee wrote:
Good call on Ji Yeon, but what do you mean about their parents’ names? I don’t think we know their parents’ first names, do we?
In season 2 when Jin finds out Sun’s with child, they talk about naminf the child and Sun said he wants the child to have a characture of his fathers name and Jin wanted one of her mothers name.
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Dukewm, I thought it was Regina who jumped off the ship. No?
Tim, the man-made sounds. Could they be some sort of S.O.S.? That was the first thing that came to my mind anyway.
Comment 114, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
No one goes to a grave site and talks to someone that they know is still alive. Jin may not be dead, but Hurley and Sun sure think he is. And there are plenty of graves in this world that don’t have bodies in them, so there is no given that Jin’s body came back from the island.
Re the conversation between Bernard and Jin, I kept waiting for Early Hickey to show up with his list.
Plus, i think we still have one more of the Oceanic Six to be revealed to us. We can speculate about Aaron, but I really think there is one more.
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dukewm wrote:
You’ll probably get 20 answers to these questions but…
That was Regina, not Nikki
Captain’s last name was Gault, I believe
Comment 116, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
I thought tonight was the last episode for 5 weeks. Oh well, I’ll take an episode next week too!
Great episode tonight. I liked the flashback and flash forward combo. I thought about it happening at the beginning but thought it was a crazy notion.
When are we going to learn about the statue leg? I thought I read somewhere we’d know something within this 7 episode run.
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Toeknee wrote:
Dan & Des… 1996… 2004…. 2012! ???
(delta 8)
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DocH wrote:
First 6 lines are intriguing.
Last two are funny…
Comment 119, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
I find it hard to believe that Sun would be so emotional at the cemetary if Jin was not really dead. This may be a little too obvious to be true, but Jin may be the one to die next week, as previewed. Even if he’s not (I’m leaning towards Michael after the Captain learns that he is the one sabotaging the boat), he will at some point before the rescue. That explains why his date of death (as reported on the tombstone) was the date of the crash. He’s one of the two people the Jack referred to during Kate’s trial. In regards to the second person, I don’t think it’s Claire simply because everyone refers to Aaron as Kate’s son.
My theory on the Oceanic Six:
Something REALLY shady went down to allow those six to leave. It was probably some scheme devised by Ben (which explains why Sayid is working for him now). Ben is probably threatening the Oceanic Six with lives of thier friends left on the island. We all know that Ben has the capability to kill everyone on the island if he chooses to and he’s holding that over their heads. I think the show will end with the Oceanic Six finally turning on Ben and going back for their friends (hopefully!).
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Trixanna wrote:
yes it was regina. i guess she was so upset she was “reading” her book upide down before taking her life. quite the way to leave. oh, and i don’t know if anybody else noticed but she, like i’ve said before even seeing her, was not naomi’s sister!
the sounds i first thought coulda been michael, or should i say kevin johnson. but now maybe i think it was the freighter tots trying to fix the ship. or maybe i suppose was just them trying to keep sayid & des thinking.
and des must be better then he was in the constant as he now is well aware of everything again…
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Michael wrote:
Good call on Ji Yeon, but what do you mean about their parents’ names? I don’t think we know their parents’ first names, do we?
In season 2 when Jin finds out Sun’s with child, they talk about naminf the child and Sun said he wants the child to have a characture of his fathers name and Jin wanted one of her mothers name.
Thanks!
Actualy, the captain said they can’t go anywhere because the motors have been jacked up by someone. don’t know who. But i think thats a lie. And the noisess sounded like morse code. Code both sayid and Desmoned should get because of there military back ground
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DocH wrote:
I laughed at this almost as much as your spork comment the other day. (i.e., they were both very funny)
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LOST Fanatic wrote:
Like that. I to think Ben is behind the o6 story.
Comment 124, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Does anyone believe that Juliet really wanted to help Sun?
Comment 125, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Also, at the beginning of the episode, when Sun turned off the television, what you saw was the season finale from Nikki and Billy Dee Williams’ show not some sort of Sawyer story. I can’t remember the name of it (sure there are plenty that could recall it off the top of their heads, but it had the Cobra and Hurley called it the “coolest show ever”) but “razzle dazzle!”
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Rita wrote:
Yes and I’m thinking that Jin is worried about his karma, remembering all the things he did pre-island.
I think Jin might except death to help Sun get off the island as Karma.
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Michael wrote:
I do for now. I don’t really see any other motive to keep her from going to Locke’s camp. In her FBs she often cries when she loses moms/babies, she wants Sun and baby to survive. I don’t think Juliet sees Sun and Jin as a threat.
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lost chicka wrote:
Regina jumped after several calls to the island tots and losties.
Had trouble as door guard for Sayid n’ Des.
Did she pass the note thru the door “don’t trust the captain”? (or Mi-Ke-vin, Seamy, Omar, Gault, etc…).
Was Regina suffering from TTMS (Time-Traveling Minkowski-Syndrome)?
re: not naomi’s sister! I have 3 daughters and I’d swear the oldest is black, the middle one is white and the youngest hispanic. and yep… same mom… same pop! NWO !
Comment 129, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Michael #124
Yes, a big part of me believes that Juliet really wanted to help Sun. She said that Sun was her patient. I go back and forth with Juliet, sometimes I believe she is good and other times, not so good. I want to believe she is a victim also. She DOES want to get off the island, right? I think she does desperate things and I certainly did not agree with her telling Jin about Sun’s affair but she did it to keep them there.
Wow, please tell me she is a kind hearted person with good intentions!
Comment 130, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Michael wrote:
Yes and I’m thinking that Jin is worried about his karma, remembering all the things he did pre-island.
I think Jin might except death to help Sun get off the island as Karma.
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It was also interesting when Bernard mentioned that they were with the right group, because Locke was a murderer. That hit home with Jin.
Comment 131, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
DocH wrote:
Seemed to me that she had totally different symptoms…the show sent her to the bottom of the ocean, I’m thinking when the capt said she’s gone, he meant not in this time anymore?
I have a son and a daughter and I’d swear one is boy and one is a girl, same mom and pop too…Wings 5, Stars 3.
Comment 132, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
I think the reason Kate did not come visit Sun was that she is stuck in California for 10 years on probation.
So sad about Jin. I think it’s possible that he is alive on the island. I agree with whoever said that it sets up the show for a return to the island.
I still think Aaron is one of the O6.
I was thinking that the banging on the pipes was Morse code as well.
Comment 133, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
That Regina woman had seemed so familiar to me. I SWEAR when I first saw her I thought it was the woman that Sun shot. That guy’s wife that they Jack couldn’t save. The guy that always beat up Sawyer. Anyhow I SWORE it was her but I guess I was wrong!
Comment 134, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
So if the grave is fake, why did Hurley say “I guess we should, like, go see him”.
I think they are going somewhere afterwards and that is the “him” he was referring to.
Comment 135, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Michael wrote: Does anyone believe that Juliet really wanted to help Sun?
Hammer wrote: I do for now. I don’t really see any other motive to keep her from going to Locke’s camp. In her FBs she often cries when she loses moms/babies, she wants Sun and baby to survive. I don’t think Juliet sees Sun and Jin as a threat.
I agree. As much as I hate trusting Juliet anytime, anywhere… I really think they are setting Juliet up to be an honest Abe in the end. Of course we all know what that means - she will be Ben Jr when all is said and done.
After this episode I really wanted to erase all of my tapes… reboot my PC from scratch and start watching again from S1E1. I am also contemplating a Karl visit to the “Clockwork Orange” room 23 on Hydra Island for a little brainwashing reboot - as good as Ji Yeon was - it was equally as frustrating. And my damn hockey team LOST!
Comment 136, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
First off:
Sun = Woman = Wife
Jin = Man = Husband
(I got really confused by the posts that mixed them up.)
Secondly, yes, it was an episode of Expose on the TV in Sun’s room. HILARIOUS!
I definitely think Jin is really dead, even though the O6 cover story means that the date on his tombstone is wrong. Why would Hurley suggest that they “go see him” and accompany Sun to the cemetery if he weren’t truly dead? If Jin were still stranded on the island, Hurley and Sun could just stay at her house to talk about how much she misses him. People don’t go to cemeteries to discuss fake deaths.
Comment 137, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Please forgive if this is not the right place to post this, but I am wondering about the theory that the show is loosely based on a book written in 1933 entitled Lost Horizon.
I found it a the library used book sale…can you believe that??
Anyway, it’s a quick read and interesting. The “island” in that book has powers that let people live for hundreds of years. The Lost Island obviously has powers to heal and extend life.
Has anyone else read it and what do you think? I don’t want to spoil the book for those who want to read it.
So, I’m just wondering if this blog has already discussed the connection to the book and the show?
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Michael wrote:
NO! I believe Juliet is a backstabbing, manipulating, man eating, other with her own sick agenda…..i’m not sure about the man eating part, but the rest i all rediscovered i believe tonight.
Comment 139, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
I don’t understand this fake death stuff. Either Jin died or they honestly “believe” he is dead. This whole fake death discussion is a little ridiculous unless they are being followed. I mean it can be some conspiracy but like others have said, who goes to bring a fake dead guy his baby?
Sometimes I hate Juliet and sometimes I don’t. I think what she did was wrong but very clever. I think maybe Sun realized that Juliet must have really wanted to keep her from going to Locke’s camp.
I want Juliet to get off the island to see her sister, but I think she is going to die. Plus I think her sister on the TV in Mikhail’s station was fake. I think Ben set that up but…..
these are just thoughts!
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Bedtime for Bonzo, but I leave you with this to ponder:
Widmore has been involved in or talked about in the last three episodes…
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Hammer
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Michael wrote:
Does anyone believe that Juliet really wanted to help Sun?
I do for now. I don’t really see any other motive to keep her from going to Locke’s camp. In her FBs she often cries when she loses moms/babies, she wants Sun and baby to survive. I don’t think Juliet sees Sun and Jin as a threat.
Trixanna wrote:
I can’t think of any reason why she would not want Sun to go back. So she is good for now.
Comment 142, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Ray: guess what i’m gonna be reading next time i go to the library… :)
Comment 143, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
The FB kind of sucked. Seemed like filler. Kind of a let down. Ben could be behind Jin’s staged death. I think Jin could still be on the island. The o6 are living a lie, with lies on top of the lies. They don’t even want to be around each other for fear of looking each other in the eye and staring the lies in the face. I think part of the o6 pact was to get Aaron & Sun off the island for safety reasons. We know partly why Sayid became an o6er. Why Hurley? Why Jack — just to be close to Kate?
I’m pretty sure they are not killing off everyone from 815 that is not an 06er. The other survivors must stay on the island. I suppose some might die in Ben’s war. Why would Jack purposely leave people behind so he can go back to work? Have they been fooled into thinking everyone else is dead?
Comment 144, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Okay… what if the “cover story” is true?
8 survived the 815 crash (pacific/indian ocean/wherever).
Kate was the hero. 6 ultimately returned to civilization.
That would explain the “Jin” death after only a few months of marriage…
LOST is about the ‘maginations of the half dozen survivees…
Comment 145, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Good point w/ the cover story… but who would be the 2nd death of the orig 8 survivors?
Comment 146, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Could we have a simultaneous fast forward for Sun and flashback for Jin just to freak us out? Jin told the Ambassador the panda was from Mr. ???? I forget. From Sun’s dad?
How’d Hurley get out of the nuthouse to go to Korea?
Yep, it was Michael. Surprised, but not surprised.
Whoa!!! Okay, who the heck is Ben really and yes, how the heck did he stage the fake plane crash?
Comment 147, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
I could be wrong, but didn’t they say that WIDMORE staged the crash scene? (not Ben?)
Comment 148, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
intolost wrote:
Deffenitly flash fowards for sun and flash backs for Jin.
Isn’t Hurley in there by his own will. He could leave when ever he wants if he was.
Comment 149, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
First time accessing this. And from Brazil.I have to watch the episodes online since in Brazil new season will not be on TV until later..
Anyway, can someone explain me what the “8″ means? As far as I know there are only the Oceanic six. Did it now become 8? thanks.
Comment 150, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Renata wrote:
In the Eggtown episode Jack said that there were eight survivors but only six live.
Comment 151, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Renata wrote:
when Jack testifies in Kate’s trial, he tells a bit of the cover story…the O6 are the actual 6 survivors that made it back to civilization. The O8 are the original (alleged) 8 survivors of the plane crash. That means that in the cover up story, all passengers dies in the crash except 8, and that 2 more died on the island before rescue, leaving 6.
Comment 152, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Michael wrote:
Deffenitly flash fowards for sun and flash backs for Jin.
Isn’t Hurley in there by his own will. He could leave when ever he wants if he was.
How is it that we know that Hurley is in the nut house yet? Couldn’t this be BEFORE he was in the nut house. Could be why while he was at the nut house he was asked….”Do you really think they are dead?” We always have thought it was the people back at the island. Maybe it is. But MAYBE all those people have graves back here in the real world.
Regardless, how do we know this was AFTER he was put back in the nut house?
Comment 153, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Oh yeah! And how weird was it to see Hurley in a suit and tie??? He looked really nice. So did Sun. I think they must be getting mad money for all of this! Except for Jack. He lives in a little apartment full of maps.
Comment 154, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
I think the captain said Ben staged it. Did Regina or Michael pass the “Don’t trust the captain” note to Sayid and Des? Oops, I mean Kevin Johnson, right? KJ! Our Phoenix Suns legend!! Anybody here a fellow Arizonan? Maybe KJ is a plug to the faith side of LOSTies?
Comment 155, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Maybe Jin isn’t really buried at the cemetary, but Ben somehow made people think that he is actually dead? Then maybe Jin is working for Ben to save Sun from being killed? Cause that’s what Sayid is doing kinda. Hmmm
Comment 156, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
does this phrase mean anything to anyone:
“may anonymityaloof be balmy”
Comment 157, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Good point. Sun’s flash forwad must take place before Hurley’s.
Comment 158, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Renata wrote:
8 is part of the lie that the Oceanic 6 tell to the public. Some believe it is relevant, some believe it is just a lie and not relevant. Time will tell.
Without a doubt Jin’s entire part of this episode was a FlashBACK. At the end he says he’d only been married two months. Thus, the year of the dragon has nothing to do with the story IMO. In fact, I don’t even think the store owner said it was the YOTD, but I could be mistaken.
I believe Mike is def. in the coffin because that’s why Jack was so distraught. He believed Mike could eventually recall how to get back to the island, so he wouldn’t have to keep continuing to do his “hope to crash by fate” trips. It was in a black neighborhood, no one was at the funeral because it was an assumed identity, and hence no one knew who he was.
I need a screencap of that suicide story again, because I think folks made out a John on it, and thought John Locke, but it could actually have been Johnson.
I think Regina just went crazy, like a lot of other folks on that freightor. (Brandon, and whoever blew his own head off resulting in the blood stain). That would mean the affects of the island are different for everyone, and not necessarily making one prone to time travel.
Still not sure if Widmore is bad bcuz if Mike is working for Ben, and he tells them not to trust the Captain…I think it is because he’s being manipulated once again. I hope they didn’t capture Walt again, but I’m thinking they did which is why he was able to appear to Locke on top of the pit.
I think Jin had to be part of the “O6 story” somehow because he is the father of the child, which I’m sure could be proven through testing.
I think Aaron is an O6 now, because I thought we were supposed to know all of the O6 at the end of this episode? If Jin’s tombstone says 9/22, he CAN’T be an O6. Thus Sun is the only one that was revealed in this episode.
Sun’s FF is taking place in a relatively short time frame from when they get off the island, as she is having the child. IMO Hurley had not gone into the mental institution yet. I think each FF is going in reverse chronological order from the Jack meltdown.
Props to everyone who called Aaron as an O6(if it is right).
Comment 159, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
dukewm wrote:
What the heck are you smoking?
1. You’re wrong; Not Nikki, not close.
2. Right, Jin’s story was in a flashback. He said to the nurse he’d been married a short time and “not to rush” him for a baby. But he did not die when he dropped his phone.
3. Read the numbers top to bottom. Clearly dates.
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intolost wrote:
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Here is a RANDOM thought. In regards to the staged crash site that Ben is possibly responsible for…could the 324 bodies be the victims of Ben’s massacre back when he killed off his Dad and all of the Dharma people??
Comment 162, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Who is John Gault? Any one find this interesting besids me? If you don’t know what I am talking about, you should really read more.
Comment 163, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
get lost wrote:
Ayn Rand reference. Is that the captain’s name?
Comment 164, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Claire wrote:
I dont believe so. Locke was pushed into the mass grave of the Dharma people as he was shot by Ben a short while ago.
Comment 165, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Are we sure that Jin’s are flashbacks? That would not be in keeping with the oceanic survivors - so far this season we have been getting flash forwards for them and flashbacks for the newbies. Is it possible that Sun just thinks Jin is dead? I kind of felt like we were on parallel stories with the two of them both in the future….or maybe I am just lost!
Comment 166, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
get lost wrote:
Hmmm… I just thought he said, “Captain Gault”, not John Gault. Captain Gault is a fictional sea captain created by English writer William Hope Hodgson. Wiki Captain Gault for more info.
Comment 167, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
RGS wrote:
8 is part of the lie that the Oceanic 6 tell to the public. Some believe it is relevant, some believe it is just a lie and not relevant. Time will tell.
Without a doubt Jin’s entire part of this episode was a FlashBACK. At the end he says he’d only been married two months. Thus, the year of the dragon has nothing to do with the story IMO. In fact, I don’t even think the store owner said it was the YOTD, but I could be mistaken.
I believe Mike is def. in the coffin because that’s why Jack was so distraught. He believed Mike could eventually recall how to get back to the island, so he wouldn’t have to keep continuing to do his “hope to crash by fate” trips. It was in a black neighborhood, no one was at the funeral because it was an assumed identity, and hence no one knew who he was.
I need a screencap of that suicide story again, because I think folks made out a John on it, and thought John Locke, but it could actually have been Johnson.
I think Regina just went crazy, like a lot of other folks on that freightor. (Brandon, and whoever blew his own head off resulting in the blood stain). That would mean the affects of the island are different for everyone, and not necessarily making one prone to time travel.
Still not sure if Widmore is bad bcuz if Mike is working for Ben, and he tells them not to trust the Captain…I think it is because he’s being manipulated once again. I hope they didn’t capture Walt again, but I’m thinking they did which is why he was able to appear to Locke on top of the pit.
I think Jin had to be part of the “O6 story” somehow because he is the father of the child, which I’m sure could be proven through testing.
I think Aaron is an O6 now, because I thought we were supposed to know all of the O6 at the end of this episode? If Jin’s tombstone says 9/22, he CAN’T be an O6. Thus Sun is the only one that was revealed in this episode.
Sun’s FF is taking place in a relatively short time frame from when they get off the island, as she is having the child. IMO Hurley had not gone into the mental institution yet. I think each FF is going in reverse chronological order from the Jack meltdown.
Props to everyone who called Aaron as an O6(if it is right).
Wow, best post on here tonight. In the closing preview they mentioned some reference to Michael’s son. We all know Michael will kill if blackmailed with Walt, and I think that’s the easiest way for the writers to motivate him here. Otherwise, how else could they come up with a plausible explanation on why Michael left Walt all by himself? (on this boat, pretty sure no kids are allowed).
I also think Michael was in the coffin.
I also think Jin gives his life saving his wife and unborn child.
Comment 168, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
On another note, how about the beauty of Yunjin Kim?
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Comment 169, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
OMG
irst off, I concede, Michael is mens man.
Becky, The first 87 or so posts were us LAA members trying to connet. Please be patient with us addicts.
Why did Des notice the paper droped into the door and Sayid not. It seems he would notice.
I don’t think the captain said who staged the crash. He said that Widmore owned the freighter and fount the black box and then said the crash was staged and mentioned how much that would cost. I don’t think he said who did it.
OK, so everyone before either thought Michael was Bens man or not. It was mentioned several times that nobody trusted Michael anymore because he Ben had gotten him to kill Anna Lucia and Libby. So, when this season started I let my daughter, who is now in high school, start watching Lost. I had mentioned several times that Ben had not told Michael to kill Anna Lucia and Libby, that Miss. Clus had asled him to rescur Ben and the killings had “just happened.” My daughter pointed out tonight that the losties still don’t know that Michael killed them. He blamed it on Ben and everyone baught it. The losties probably think of Michael as a good guy, still.
I was reminded of the book “Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds” in how we, the audience, were handeled in this.
I think Jin is really dead or Sun and Hurley would not go to the cemetary.
Much more, but I am overwhelmed.
Comment 170, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Bobcat wrote:
I dont believe so. Locke was pushed into the mass grave of the Dharma people as he was shot by Ben a short while ago.
yeah, and they were skeletons. so…the people on the fake plane had skin.
ok, you with the whole time distortion thing? so it seems like it wouldve been a flashback, cuz jin was in the year 2000, but what if they thought they were on the island for a couple of months, when it was actually a couple of years. cuz des and sayid were gone for a day before they got on the boat, but for them it was like…an hour. so that would explain why sun is still pregnant in the year 2012. that is, if jin is actually alive and in korea.
Comment 171, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
My take on the Oceanic 6 (not 8) from what we have seen so far is:
(1) Hurley-in the loony bin.
(2) Jack-visiting Hurley and testifying for Kate.
(3) Kate-beating the criminal wrap.
(4) Sayid-Ben’s hit man.
(5) Sun-giving birth.
(6) Is still unconfirmed.
Jin’s story line in this episode is an obvious flash BACK. So far Hurley, Kate, Jack, Sayid and Sun have been identified as one of the Oceanic 6. Kate’s son Aaron has not been directly or indirectly referred to as one of the Oceanic 6. For all we know Kate could have simply named her son Aaron. The last member of the Oceanic 6 is undefined. Maybe it is Claire’s son Aaron posing as Kate’s son, however my money is on a surprise sixth coming up before hiatus.
Comment 172, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Scott wrote:
Ayn Rand reference. Is that the captain’s name?
Yes, he identified himself as Captain Gault. Interesting that the captain would be named after John Gault. The man that stopped the motor of the world in “Atlas Shrugged”. I for one am looking forward to seeing more of the captain.
Comment 173, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Courtney wrote:
Hmmm… I just thought he said, “Captain Gault”, not John Gault. Captain Gault is a fictional sea captain created by English writer William Hope Hodgson. Wiki Captain Gault for more info.
Good grab! That is more of a direct refrence. I had not thought of that.
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Toeknee wrote:
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She looked really familiar. I know we have seen her b4. Pls refresh my memory someone.
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Megalost wrote:
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She looked really familiar. I know we have seen her b4. Pls refresh my memory someone.
If you saw Grindhouse: Death Proof, Zoe Bell/Regina was the chick on the roof of the car in the second part. I don’t remember her characters name.
Comment 176, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
lost chicka wrote:
Hi y’all! Megalost in the house. This might b a dumb ? but why are u calling them freighter tots? Does fraighter tots refer to Charlotte, Daniel & the pilot? Pls explain. I’ve read it in the last few threads now.
Comment 177, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
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LOL.
I was wondering about the relevance.
PPl, be nice.. LIke the blog says…there are some snobs on here@;-)))
stop hatin!!!
Comment 178, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
comment #159:
u just opened up a can of worms. i hope we won’t start debating if how or why that was a “black neighborhood”. Talk about beating a dead horse. Not to be rude, I just hope we don’t go there!!!
Comment 179, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Courtney wrote:
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She looked really familiar. I know we have seen her b4. Pls refresh my memory someone.
If you saw Grindhouse: Death Proof, Zoe Bell/Regina was the chick on the roof of the car in the second part. I don’t remember her characters name.
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10q Courtney. I mean I’ve seen her on LOST in the previous episodes..Or maybe she just looks REEALLY familiar for some reason. “Cabin Fever” -scary!
Comment 180, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Anyone who gets off the island gets a flashforward (Hurley, Jack, Kate, Sayid, and Sun);
Anyone who stays on the island gets a flashback (Juliet and Jin)
I’m sure the producers will fill in the back story for those Losties who were left behind.
Comment 181, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
I’m assuming Juliet and Jin stayed on the island or was left behind of course :)
Comment 182, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Oh and how could I leave out Desmond?? He too was only given a flashback to the present so I consider him too still on the island
Comment 183, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
For what it’s worth: the book Regina was “reading” upside-down is The Survivors of the Chancellor by Jules Verne.
Comment 184, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Anyone remember the man Jin worked for saying Jin would be killed, something to do with the watch back in season one, just before the plane crashed, maybe he was assinated when he returned from the island as a celebrity it wouldnt be hard to find him.
Comment 185, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Megalost wrote:
Don’t remember who started it, but yes the tots are the folks from Widmore’s boat.
Comment 186, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
omar wrote:
I dont think i have ever seen u on here before….and for the questions…what???
Most of your questions are on everyone’s mind. The reason you don’t know yet is because it hasn’t been revealed yet
now….moving on to jin
Jin was referring to The man he used to be when he speaks of “you did it to that man, and i forgive you”. If you recall jin was sort of a real prick to sun before the island, and he didn’t even start to loosen up until towards the middle/end of season 1.
AS for the bloodstain in the wall in the cell. Its my opinion that it looked more like someone shot themselves in the head threw their chin while on their knees. The blood splatter was aimed kinda straight up and was very high toward the ceiling. (remember i said opinion. I’m no expert.)
I agree with trusting the captain over Ben or Michel. HOWEVER, he works for Widmore and i think Ben and widmore go hand and hand. Their both cut from the same evil cloth. The question is do you trust the lesser of two evils aka: widmore?
Hurley is a complicated fellow isn’t he? I believe that he was glad no one else is coming because he hates awkward situations and he’s not for seeing jack or anyone else for that matter. It probably never set right in his stomach that he had to keep the island a secret and people like jack and Kate talked him into keeping his mouth shut.(theory)
Now i have question for you. Its my belief that Sawyer is the last survivor and I could be wrong but hear me out.
In the end of season 3 their is the first flash forward that shows jack calling a meeting between him and Kate and during this meeting Kate says something like ” he doesn’t know I’m here” when she meets jack. “he” being sawyer?
THAT ALL BEING SAID I JUST WANNA SEND A BIG SHOUT OUT TO MY MAIN MAN RAURKABEAST! SUP LIL HOMY!? ALSO SHOUT OUTS TO MY HOMEBOI EICKILLALL69 AND VOIDEDGURL! SEE YOU ON XBOX LIVE SON!
lol, sorry, I just like to shout out when asked not to. don’t take it personal. Its my nature.
Comment 187, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Circus Mom wrote:
Circus, only problem with the Losties believing Mike is ok is that fact that Hurley came back to camp. I’m pretty sure he’d tell everyone, in response to, “so what about Mike and Walt?” “Mike lead us into a trap to get his son back, dude I was pretty pissed when I found out, but he and Walt got on a boat and headed off the island.”
Comment 188, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
RAY wrote:
Yes! I read it a few months ago, there is definately some similarities, I don’t want to spoil either, but remember the main guy, who wants to go back. A wink and a nod… maybe it’s Jack! Oh most definately! I hope some other blogger’s read it and we can discuss on another post!
Comment 189, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
TheoryNut wrote:
Yes! I read it a few months ago, there is definately some similarities, I don’t want to spoil either, but remember the main guy, who wants to go back. A wink and a nod… maybe it’s Jack! Oh most definately! I hope some other blogger’s read it and we can discuss on another post!
IMHO, we are supposed to be discussing Lost theories here. So we shouldn’t be worried about spoiling other stories(though it wouldn’t hurt to announce that you are about to), if it seems related to Lost…let’s here it.
Comment 190, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Why were Sun and Jin in Australia in the first place? I forgot.
Comment 191, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
intolost wrote:
sun got prego on the island. 9 months laer she has the baby and hurley shows up and says “hi”.
In Hurleys flashforward they mention that a year had passed since the 06 had been rescued. so the flashforwards are not in the same time-line. Hurley goes to the nuthouse after he see’s sun and the baby.
Comment 192, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
If Jin’s story really is a flashback, it just goes to show how the creators will do anything to try to mislead the viewers.
Like someone else said, it was unnecessary filler and it’s main purpose was to fool us, because the creators and writers are such geniuses.
Or were they just trying to fool the spies in Hawaii into making us think Jin was an Oceanic 6?
Comment 193, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Claire wrote:
You could be right. However, when ben shoots locke in the belly and he lands in the pit of skeletons, he explains thats where the bodies were put. so….ya. I’m thinking that we saw alot of passports in bens room right? … I don’t know, I need some tylonal. my head hurts.
Comment 194, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
I think that Jin is still on the island. The reason being - if you recall the conversation Jin has with Bernard on the fishing boat. Bernard talks about karma. When you do something bad in life, you get disciplined for it later on somehow.
Jin, like Locke, is a murderer. Regardless of Jin being told to kill, he has killed. He will be disciplined some way or another. His discipline is to remain on the island and to never see his child.
The island is about redemption. I believe the creators of the show said that from day 1. What you did in the past will be erased on the island, but when you get off the island, you go back to your original life.
Comment 195, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
What makes you all so sure that Jin’s story was a flashback? How many times has Lost thrown you for a loop in the past 3+ seasons? My theory is that Jin and Sun both returned to Korea. Sun’s father, Mr Paik forced Jin to work for him again and was furious that they attempted to go to America. He blames all of what happened on Jin. Remember? They went to Australia and were supposed to return to Korea, not flee to America. In light of this, Mr. Paik threatens Jin with death if he ever goes near Sun again, forces Jin to work for him in China (he was not in Korea during the flashforward…the Panda was a clue…there are no Pandas in Korea), and somehow fakes Jin’s death, hence Sun and Hurley visting his fake grave. I may be wrong, but I refuse to believe that he is really dead. Mr. Paik has the money and power to pull off something like this. Perhaps he even threatened to kill his own daughter/grandchild to keep Jin away from her.
Comment 196, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Some one made the comment about Michael being deaf. I like that. Would make since with the style of communication he has been using with Sayid. (Note under door, possible S.O.S code though the pipes noise)
I would say Michael is coming back to redeem himself and safe his “friends” or once he got off the island Walt was either taken or went back to the island on his own.
Comment 197, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
How big is Jin’s mobile, sure that’s not a flashback to the 80s! :)
Comment 198, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Tim wrote:
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I usually try to read through all of them before I post, so I apologize. I noticed the noise too. It sounded like morse code or something, so maybe Walt is being held captive and that’s why Michael’s there. But I don’t know how that was pulled off. Maybe there is a different person who’s Ben’s “Man on the Boat.” He or she could’ve orchestrated Walt’s capture. I dunno.
And when the captain was talking about the bodies on the plane, my immediate thought was of the people in the Purge. Maybe they used those bodies. But now I’m just remembering the pit Locke was in, soooo, maybe not….
Comment 199, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Also someone asked about the blood on the wall. I don’t think that was execution style. It looked like someone shot themself…
Comment 200, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
RGS wrote:
Yes, Sun was the only one revealed, which means that Aaron is an O6′r.. Also, the S3 finale with Jack and Kate was the LAST of the flash forwards.. Everything is working back from that point.
Comment 201, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
lostintime wrote:
The shopkeeper says it is the year of the dragon - ergo it is either 2000 or 2012. It COULD be a flashforward to 2012, and Jin has remarried, but then why would he still be working for Paik? And why would he be carrying around a giganto cell phone? Doesn’t fit. I think it has to be 2000.
The gift was NOT for Sun, it was for the Chinese Ambassador. The Chinese Ambassador would not BE in CHINA, but Jin would be smart enough to get a Chinese symbol FOR the ambassador. There may be no ACTUAL pandas in Korea (is that even true?) but there certainly can be STUFFED ones! LOL
FWIW, while the episode was on, I totally bought into the idea that Sun and Jin were in simultaneous flashforwards. In fact, I thought “What?! Jin REMARRIED? So quickly?” and didn’t catch on to the big cell phone. It wasn’t until Sun and Hurley were at the cemetery that I realized they were in different flash times.
I also originally thought that Sun REALLY believes Jin is dead. But looking back, I think she just REALLY misses him and since he has to appear dead, it is her way of mourning their separation.
The whole Hurley thing is just as confusing as Claire asking to see Miles last week. But I have come to realize that there is pretty much a reason for EVERYTHING!
The Regina thing has me puzzled. None of the boat staff seemed to give her jumping off the freighter a second thought until Desmond and Sayid said something. Maybe that is something Regina does all the time (going down to a sub? going down to another offshore underwater hatch?) and they pretended to react to give credence to the suicide story?
Another crazy-awesome, keep-em-guessing, on-the-edge-of-your-seat, tear-jerker episodes!
No more enhanced episodes? ACK! Maybe ABC will have them on the website!
: ) P
Comment 202, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
lostintime wrote:
Well considering everything was in Korean, people were speaking Korean, and unless China has a little Korea as in Los Angeles, I highly doubt that Jin was in China. And lest I remind you that there’s a panda in the San Diego Zoo, her name is Hua Mei. You should say hi.
Comment 203, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Hammer wrote:
Good morning Hammer! I’ve been trying to read as much as possible but posting has been out of the question. Work has been insane, not to mention the kiddo and I JUST moved. So trying to coordinate everything has really kept me way to busy. BUT now I’m back!! :)
I dont want to comment on last night until I read all 200 posts. But just wanted to say HI!!! and yes, I’m back.
Comment 204, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
skweez wrote:
the S3 finale with Jack and Kate was the LAST of the flash forwards.. Everything is working back from that point.
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I agree that this seems to be the case. I wonder if it’s intentional, or coincidental? I don’t think they can continue this approach for much longer because eventually the present will meet up with the future.
Also, presumably at some point we’ll get a Michael FB that would tell what happened to him since he left the island with Walt, and that (similar to the episode “The Other 48 days”).
Comment 205, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
RGS wrote:
8 is part of the lie that the Oceanic 6 tell to the public. Some believe it is relevant, some believe it is just a lie and not relevant. Time will tell.
Without a doubt Jin’s entire part of this episode was a FlashBACK. At the end he says he’d only been married two months. Thus, the year of the dragon has nothing to do with the story IMO. In fact, I don’t even think the store owner said it was the YOTD, but I could be mistaken.
I believe Mike is def. in the coffin because that’s why Jack was so distraught. He believed Mike could eventually recall how to get back to the island, so he wouldn’t have to keep continuing to do his “hope to crash by fate” trips. It was in a black neighborhood, no one was at the funeral because it was an assumed identity, and hence no one knew who he was.
I need a screencap of that suicide story again, because I think folks made out a John on it, and thought John Locke, but it could actually have been Johnson.
I think Regina just went crazy, like a lot of other folks on that freightor. (Brandon, and whoever blew his own head off resulting in the blood stain). That would mean the affects of the island are different for everyone, and not necessarily making one prone to time travel.
Still not sure if Widmore is bad bcuz if Mike is working for Ben, and he tells them not to trust the Captain…I think it is because he’s being manipulated once again. I hope they didn’t capture Walt again, but I’m thinking they did which is why he was able to appear to Locke on top of the pit.
I think Jin had to be part of the “O6 story” somehow because he is the father of the child, which I’m sure could be proven through testing.
I think Aaron is an O6 now, because I thought we were supposed to know all of the O6 at the end of this episode? If Jin’s tombstone says 9/22, he CAN’T be an O6. Thus Sun is the only one that was revealed in this episode.
Sun’s FF is taking place in a relatively short time frame from when they get off the island, as she is having the child. IMO Hurley had not gone into the mental institution yet. I think each FF is going in reverse chronological order from the Jack meltdown.
Props to everyone who called Aaron as an O6(if it is right).
Love your theory on Michael being the one in the coffin….makes sense
Comment 206, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
PJSander wrote:
The gift was NOT for Sun, it was for the Chinese Ambassador. The Chinese Ambassador would not BE in CHINA, but Jin would be smart enough to get a Chinese symbol FOR the ambassador. There may be no ACTUAL pandas in Korea (is that even true?) but there certainly can be STUFFED ones! LOL
The Regina thing has me puzzled. None of the boat staff seemed to give her jumping off the freighter a second thought until Desmond and Sayid said something. Maybe that is something Regina does all the time (going down to a sub? going down to another offshore underwater hatch?) and they pretended to react to give credence to the suicide story?
Another crazy-awesome, keep-em-guessing, on-the-edge-of-your-seat, tear-jerker episodes!
No more enhanced episodes? ACK! Maybe ABC will have them on the website!
: ) P
LMAO@there can be stuffed pandas. Too funny.
I’d like to add that there are no fire breathing dragons in China or Korea, so who knows where Jin was! :p
I think with the Regina suicide the crew had no reaction because folks had been going crazy for awhile now. Captain said he didn’t want to lose anymore folks trying to save people.
I doubt she’d wrap herself in some heavy chains to swim down to a submarine, and how would she get in the sub anyway? The signs that she was going crazy was her reading the book upside down. If there was a sub, wouldn’t they try to use that to get the hell outta dodge? If it is broken, why would she go to it? I believe she’s a goner.
It also makes me understand a little bit why there was no big deal made out of Regina dead body, since bodies are droppin all over the place.
Comment 207, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
mcotter wrote:
Yes - I was thinking that might have something to do with Jin’s fate. Here’s the transcript from the season 1 finale:
HAWAIIAN SHIRT [subtitled]: I work for Mr. Paik. Your father-in-law, and employer.
JIN [subtitled]: You’ve been following me?
HAWAIIAN SHIRT [subtitled]: Yes. I know you’re planning to run away. But you’re going to take that watch to Mr. Paik’s friend in California. You do anything else — anything — you will lose her. You are not free. You never have been, and you never will be.
If Mr. Paik is involved with whoever ends up allowing the O6 to be “rescued”, he may have arranged for Jin to either be killed or left behind on the island?
Comment 208, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Jin paid for the gift (first stuffed toy) with 50,000 Won (Korean currency) or about $45 US Dollars (circa 2000). Jin did not pay 50,000 Yuan (Chinese currency) or $6,100 US Dollars for the gift. So yeah, he was in South Korean. Besides the corner toy store in China won’t exchange currency for you and certainly won’t respond to you in Korean.
Cell phone question? Not all cultures adopt cutting edge technology as soon as it arrives (like in the West). Modern/Digital coverage is not common in much of the Far East. Older phones are used because - they work! I’ve see lots of the old fashion (early 90’s) “brick-sized” cellular phones still in use. Where do you think many of our old cells go when we recycle?
Comment 209, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Toeknee wrote:
Don’t forget the note - “Don’t trust the captain”. Of course the source of that note may or may not be trustworthy.
Circus Mom said “Why did Des notice the paper droped into the door and Sayid not. It seems he would notice.”
It was interesting, as a military man Sayid should not have let that go unnoticed. So who left the note? Ben’s man on the boat? Maybe Michael, but MAYBE Ben’s MOB is Des. Des may not have lost his ability to travel in time, and so he could have been going from ship to shore for a long time now. Also, if Des sent the note to himself, he would have noticed it before Sayid.
Des could have also opened the door through which they escaped in last week’s ep.
Just a thought anyway, because as someone else already noted, Michael is too hotheaded and reactionary to play a spy without getting caught easily.
Comment 210, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Toeknee wrote:
Don’t forget the note - “Don’t trust the captain”. Of course the source of that note may or may not be trustworthy.
Circus Mom said “Why did Des notice the paper droped into the door and Sayid not. It seems he would notice.”
It was interesting, as a military man Sayid should not have let that go unnoticed. So who left the note? Ben’s man on the boat? Maybe Michael, but MAYBE Ben’s MOB is Des. Des may not have lost his ability to travel in time, and so he could have been going from ship to shore for a long time now. Also, if Des sent the note to himself, he would have noticed it before Sayid.
Des could have also opened the door through which they escaped in last week’s ep.
Just a thought anyway, because as someone else already noted, Michael is too hotheaded and reactionary to play a spy without getting caught easily.
Comment 211, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
I usually have more revelations after I sleep but reading all the posts in the morning sucks.
Anyways I do think the whole flashforward/flasback in the episode was tied around the whole karma or “what you did comes back at you” but centered around a baby.
Jin goes so out of his way for Mr. Paik in Korea to give the Chinese official’s grandson a panda present. And I bet jin will go above and beyond for his own unborn child. Jin’s conversation with Bernard really helps him understand the previous situation in Korea and forgives Sun. (I got confused too for a while, I thought he was talking about Jae).
The dates (which are year, day, month vertically) is the day of the plane crash. I really do think he is dead since Sun is wearing black to visit his grave (which she did for Jae as well in Korea). She is definately upset and as a preggo woman myself I admit she would only go to a grave with a baby if the dad was truly dead otherwise like someone said you would stay home.
Juliet pulled a dirty trick to get Sun to stay. I think she is a good person deep down but uses what she can to get her way.
It seems that Widmore would be more likely to stage the crash than Ben, as far as we know he has more money and resources (where does Ben get the cash to bring people and stuff?) The captain says its Ben and Michael sides with Ben saying to not to trust the captain. The captain wants to get Sayid and Des on their side.
Did Ben’s coordinates for Michaels’ boat land him with some Others so that Michael again has to work for him? Why would Michael voluntarily work for him, being away from his son. I think Ben has some hold over Michael now. Any ideas?
Comment 212, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
What about the doctor telling Sun that she must have a C-Section and then she gives birth naturally?
Also, Bernard brings up the fact that him and Jin are the only married men on the island. It is very strange that their were no spouses (husbands, wives, boyfriends, girlfriends) left behind when the plane crashed. Everyone was either single or their significant other was with them when the plane crashed.
Comment 213, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Hi - Never posted, but have been reading awhile. Be kind :)
I think Ji was a flashback also because the shopkeeper didn’t seem to recognize him as an Oceanic 6. Sun was recognized the moment she walked into the hospital.
I also think Ji is alive - somewhere, possibly the island and it was a sacrifice in order to protect Sun and get her off the island. He stays so she can go kind of thing. Sun was crying out for Ji even before she was given the shot. I know she was in pain but do you cry out for your husband if you know he’s dead? Even though she may know he can’t be there with her she would still call for him - if she thinks he’s dead she doesn’t call for him. clear as mud?
Did anyone else start worrying that when Sun’s doctor didn’t show that something was up and they were going to take the baby from her?(flashbacks to Claire and Aaron)
Comment 214, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
sorry about the double post, I guess the server is overloaded now.
Comment 215, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Also, was Ji Yeon the cutest newborn ever!!! :gushes:
Comment 216, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Really… how about this. Sayid had his feet up on the table. The table was between him and the door. Sayid does not (currently) have x-ray vision and can not see through his feet or the table. Another LOST mystery solved.
A better question. How come Des just didn’t get off of his lazy butt and get the note himself? Maybe they will answer that nugget in the season finale.
Comment 217, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
And another thing (that I hope wasn’t mentioned already), what do people think about the guy who bumped into Jin on the street? It was on purpose, right? We never saw the guy’s face.
And it was touching to see Sun and Jin reconcile, especially after Juliet’s a-holish move. But I couldn’t help but feel that that scene was soap-opera-like. Especially when he asked if the baby was his. Oh, well.
Comment 218, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Wow, I will have to read ‘Lost Horizon’. Thx.
In regards to the fake wreckage, and Ben playing a part, has anyone else seen ‘The Orchid’ extra from season 3. Basically, the Hanso scientist guy in all the “initiation” films is holding a rabbit, and then another one mysteriously appears.
I’m thinking this might be how Ben made all those bodies in the wreckage. Could he utilize that technology somehow?
One more final side note. If I woke up one day and realized i lost the last 8 years of my life (or i don’t remember them) wouldn’t you be a little pissed off. I think i would be.
Comment 219, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
sector7 wrote:
sector, great post. But how come you’re not talking about the possibility that Aaron or Sarah might be Ben’s man on the boat? Or how cute the baby is with afterbirth all over her face?
Let me see if I can help you sort a few things out… Jin’s FB was useless. If you think about it, everyone from 815 has a grave. All passengers where shown to be dead and unrecoverable. Cap’n said they were all grieved, hence buried, by their families. Sun does think Jin is dead or she would be trying to get back to him, duh! Jack thinks everyone else is dead too or he would be developing a plan to get them rescued still!
How do you think the conversation went when Michael pulled his boat up to the frieghter? “Ahoy! My name is Kevin Johnson! Can I have a job as your janitor?!” — right… Obviously, Mike made it to civilization, changed his name so he would not be connected to 815 and could raise Walt in peace. But something happened to Walt, and Ben uses it to make Mike work for him. Hope this helps, sector. Seems like you’re not getting much love around here.
Comment 220, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
RAY wrote:
So I have read the summary of the book and the analysis behind the storyline. It appears to me that Lost is reflective of this book’s plot and theme. Good observation!!
Comment 221, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
RGS wrote:
Circus, only problem with the Losties believing Mike is ok is that fact that Hurley came back to camp. I’m pretty sure he’d tell everyone, in response to, “so what about Mike and Walt?” “Mike lead us into a trap to get his son back, dude I was pretty pissed when I found out, but he and Walt got on a boat and headed off the island.”
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Yes, I realized that after I posted. They still don’t know he shot Anna Lucia and Libby though.
I was really rushing when I posted last. Sorry for all the typo’s. I usually proofread. Can’t spell worth a darn but can correct typing errors.
New poster coming on later today. My daughter, Circus dork. Be patient, she’s 14.
Comment 222, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
I just read a story in Mad Magazine called “Get Lost”. Anyway, it’s a quick read and interesting. The “island” in that book has powers that let people live for hundreds of years. The Lost Island obviously has powers to heal and extend life.
Has anyone else read it and what do you think? I don’t want to spoil it for those who want to read it.
So, I’m just wondering if this blog has already discussed the connection to that story and the show?
I read the summary and the analysis behind the storyline. It appears to me that Lost is reflective of this book’s plot and theme.
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Comment 223, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
DocH wrote:
Really… how about this. Sayid had his feet up on the table. The table was between him and the door. Sayid does not (currently) have x-ray vision and can not see through his feet or the table. Another LOST mystery solved.
A better question. How come Des just didn’t get off of his lazy butt and get the note himself? Maybe they will answer that nugget in the season finale.
I agree that the not was not in his line of site and i think he was breathing out heavy when the note dropped therefore he would not hear it either.
How do you think Desmond will react when he finds out Michael killed Libby.
Comment 224, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Help me folks, could it be that they were alternate time lines? time is obviously messed up on the island, and we know that something is wrong abouts Jack’s future? Do we know for sure that the Jin episodes were flashbacks?
Comment 225, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
ReyesTHEstud wrote:
IMHO it would have to be Claire, since she would have had to given birth to Aaron- otherwise it would be hard to explain how a baby appeared amongst the survivors out of nowhere.
Comment 226, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Please correct me if I’m wrong.
When we last saw Michael and Walt, it was when they got on the boat to leave. Back then there was a lot of discussion (on this very blog) whether it really was Walt- since he did not speak- or just an appearation of Walt. Maybe this whole time Walt has been held by Ben (with only Ben knowing the truth), and Michael was given orders to do whatever he needed to do to get on the freighter and spy for Ben. Thus, the real Walt is somewhere on the island- and can pop up to say hi to Locke.
Comment 227, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Just a fyi.
Lost Horizon by James Hilton written back in 1933 about a plane crash in the Himilaya’s. The survivors end up in Shangri-La where no one grow’s old. And it’s run by a mysterious Lama.
There is also a movie directed by Frank Capra, (Wonderful Life) “Lost Horizon”.
Comment 228, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Hammer wrote:
I do for now. I don’t really see any other motive to keep her from going to Locke’s camp. In her FBs she often cries when she loses moms/babies, she wants Sun and baby to survive. I don’t think Juliet sees Sun and Jin as a threat.
Been thinking about this. I think Juliet wants to keep Sun at the beach by her side because she knows Ben will want her. that will give Juliet some leverage later on.
Comment 229, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
The thing that originally confused me about Jin’s FB in this episode was that I didn’t realize they had been married since ‘00. When Mr. Paik tells him he needs to work for him for 6 months, I am guessing, because of the line of work, and other things, those months turned into years.
When he and Sun stopped talking pre-island, then that’s probably where Jae came in.
The issue with Jin’s karma is kind of complex to me. Since he does presumably bad things, he is doing it upon orders from Sun’s dad, in order to “protect” their marriage so to speak. He doesn’t kill the folks that Mr. Paik wants killed, and takes risks to spare people’s lives, even saying he can’t kill Jae to Mr. Paik.
I too agree that he must be dead, bcuz Sun would at a minimum approach her very powerful father and say, “Dad Jin gave up his ticket back to civilization so that Ji Yeon and I could live. Can you use your connections to go back and get him?”
Mr. Paik doesn’t know (or we are lead to believe he doesn’t) that they are planning to run off after delivering the 2nd watch in LA.
Comment 230, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
DocH wrote:
Really… how about this. Sayid had his feet up on the table. The table was between him and the door. Sayid does not (currently) have x-ray vision and can not see through his feet or the table. Another LOST mystery solved.
A better question. How come Des just didn’t get off of his lazy butt and get the note himself? Maybe they will answer that nugget in the season finale.
LOL
Comment 231, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Hi everyone,
I was wondering if anyone else saw what I think I saw. I think when Michael/Kevin shook hands with Sayid or Desmond his hand was covered by the length of his shirt sleeve–wait–and that was intentional. Was his hand damaged, or might he have had a note to exchange??? didn’t anyone else think that was odd?
Comment 232, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Just to point out: if Aaron is one of the O6 then Ji Yeon should be too, if the story is jin died in the crash, then sun was also pregnant when she boarded the plane (regardless of whose child it is) and so there would be no difference between the “status” of Aaron and Ji Yeon in terms of being considered part of the O6.
the only difference would be that aaron was born on the island and Ji Yeon was not. seems like to petty a difference to make one a member of the O6 and not the other, which both can’t be if you do the math.
Comment 233, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Michael wrote:
Comment 234, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
“…Hi everyone,
I was wondering if anyone else saw what I think I saw. I think when Michael/Kevin shook hands with Sayid or Desmond his hand was covered by the length of his shirt sleeve–wait–and that was intentional. Was his hand damaged, or might he have had a note to exchange??? didn’t anyone else think that was odd?…”
It did seem a little odd but I think the reason why was he wasn’t sure what the reaction of Sayid and Desmond would be.
Plus, he seemed to by trying to get away from the encounter when he was called to clean up the blood.
Comment 235, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Matt in da hatt wrote:
The O6 were identified before Ji was born.
Comment 236, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
WOW!! Graet episode. Now, I know what some of you are thinking - Juliet was in it -how could it be a great episode and I usually feel the same way. This one was very moving especially the whole flash back/forward thing.
I think that Walt can look at an image and it comes to life ( bird in book he was reading), (Polar bear) and Ben tapped into that. That is how Ben can make people appear when he needs to - Juliet’s shrink,Kate’s horse,Jack’s Dad. Jin has really redeemed himself over the course of the show. Damn Juliet!! Always out to spoil things for our Losties. JULIET MUST GO!!!!!!! I cannot ta
Comment 237, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
WOW!! Graet episode. Now, I know what some of you are thinking - Juliet was in it -how could it be a great episode and I usually feel the same way. This one was very moving especially the whole flash back/forward thing.
I think that Walt can look at an image and it comes to life ( bird in book he was reading), (Polar bear) and Ben tapped into that. That is how Ben can make people appear when he needs to - Juliet’s shrink,Kate’s horse,Jack’s Dad. Jin has really redeemed himself over the course of the show. Damn Juliet!! Always out to spoil things for our Losties. JULIET MUST GO!!!!!!! I cannot ta
Comment 238, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
ke it anymore!
Comment 239, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Hammer wrote:
The O6 were identified before Ji was born.
Put that to rest. Nice.
Comment 240, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Matt in da hatt wrote:
Since Ji Yeon was never stranded on the island I’m not sure that it is a petty difference. The news report would probably say something like, “6 people were recovered from the plane crash of Oceanic flight 815 several months ago…name, name, name,name, name and an infant baby. One of the survivors is believed to be pregnant, and her recovery is nothing short of a miracle, blah, blah blah”
Plus Sun wasn’t pregnant when she boarded the plane.
Comment 241, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
I think the girl who jumped off the boat is the spy. Her last wish was to warn Desmond and Syiad. She was found out that’s why she killed herself rather then to face Ben and why the captain didn’t bother to save her. Just an idea
Comment 242, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Sector 7- I don’t think Michael ever made it back to civilization. If he did, he could get the proper authorities to go to the island and save everyone there. Look at all the celebrity attention the o6′ers are getting; he would carry a lot of clout and therefore get the help he needs to get Walt and the other Losties back to the real world. My guess with Michael is that he went directly to the freighter from the island. The story of how he became Kevin Johnson is a mystery to me.
I think Juliet did what she had to do to help Sun and the baby get off the island. What good would having a gun do her? Would pointing it at Sun really stop her, Sun knows Juliet would never pull the trigger and kill her.
The biggest mystery to me is why Hurley was happy nobody else was coming to see Sun and Ji Yeon. Unless he was just happy none of the Bad Guys had shown up to hurt them.
I am undecided on the freighter’s captain; on the one hand it was refreshing for someone to be forthcoming with information (Sayid even alluded to that on the ship.)but on the other hand was the note saying not to trust the Captain. Right now I am leaning towards trusting the Captain and not the person (Michael) that wrote the note.
Comment 243, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
While I will never totally trash any Lost episode, I have to admit that the past one wasn’t one of the best. Yes, we did learn some new info., like the reapparance of Michael and the, at least, pretense death of Jin. But other than the newly revealed info., the episode didn’t seem to have the depth of previous ones. Maybe I am just getting upset already that we will have a break soon, and there will be so many questions left.
I did cry upon learning of Jin’s death. But after reading this blog, I am questioning whether or not he is actually dead, and I am hoping he is still stuck on the island. Obviously, some people remain alive on the island because Jack wants to go back so badly in the future. Would Jack be willing to leave in the first place - knowing that others are forced to stay behind forever? He even participates in telling a lie once he returns to the world, and I can’t believe Jack would tell a lie unless he really had a reason to do so. If there is one character that I beleive cares more about others than himself, it is Jack. I am not necesaarily implying he is better than anyone else, but he is clearly motivated by a desire to “save” others. That is, in effect, his tragic flaw.
I think the six who leave the island do so believing the others will be returning, as well. Perhaps once they arrive, however, Ben is still in charge of their lives, and things are not as they expected. We know he is in charge of Sayid. He may very well have had some power over them before they appeared on the island, and they just didn’t know it. They think they will be escaping, but just as everyone else who has tried to escape (Desmond, Walt, Michael, etc.) was unable to do so, they later learn they can never truly escape. Then, the problem becomes figuring out how to return.
The problem I can’t figure out is why they haven’t killed Ben. He must be truly important in the overall plot line, because there is just no way someone wouldn’t have killed him by now.
As far as someone dying next week, it’s not going to be Ben, so please make it Juliet.
Comment 244, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
I wasn’t really that surprised that Hurley was happy no one else was coming to see Sun and the baby. I think he wanted to just hang out and chill. Besides, who else would have come?
Kate (and Aaron)- not likely, can’t leave the US
Sayid- doing some weird undercover stuff for Ben (wouldn’t necesserily want hin around my baby)
Jack- probably the only other one I would expect to show up, but if not, would understand if it didn’t bother Hurley, since Jack tends to act a bit superior to him/ not take him very seriously.
Comment 245, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
sector7 wrote:
sector, great post. But how come you’re not talking about the possibility that Aaron or Sarah might be Ben’s man on the boat? Or how cute the baby is with afterbirth all over her face?
Let me see if I can help you sort a few things out… Jin’s FB was useless. If you think about it, everyone from 815 has a grave. All passengers where shown to be dead and unrecoverable. Cap’n said they were all grieved, hence buried, by their families. Sun does think Jin is dead or she would be trying to get back to him, duh! Jack thinks everyone else is dead too or he would be developing a plan to get them rescued still!
How do you think the conversation went when Michael pulled his boat up to the frieghter? “Ahoy! My name is Kevin Johnson! Can I have a job as your janitor?!” — right… Obviously, Mike made it to civilization, changed his name so he would not be connected to 815 and could raise Walt in peace. But something happened to Walt, and Ben uses it to make Mike work for him. Hope this helps, sector. Seems like you’re not getting much love around here.
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LOL you can’t take it too personally if people don’t respond directly to your comments (I’ve had the same feelings on this and other boards). Last night especially, the board was running SO SLOWLY, I spent more time trying to log into the site than reading other people’s comments (and it’s not much better today) . And unfortunately after reading over two hundred comments this morning, I’m sure it’s hard for people to keep track of all of them. But I will say I usually enjoy your posts and I think you have some good, well-thought-out ideas.
Anyways, about your comments….
I had already said I thought the FB was useless (comment #70), so I agree with you there.
I also agree about some survivors staying on the island, but this too has been discussed over the past few weeks, as people have tried to figure out why Hurley and Jack say in their FF’s that they want to go back to the island, so this may be why noone here felt the need to pick up that line of discussion.
Not sure I agree with Sun trying to get back to Jin if he were alive. There’s a lot about the circumstances of the rescue that have not been explained yet. I could see Jin still being alive and staying on the island, but I could also see one of the conditions of Sun’s rescue were that she must never try to find the island again, or her baby would be taken from her or killed. And whoever it is that arranges for the rescue is obviously very powerful, so I don’t think Sun would take a chance on that.
With Michael, I’m not sure if enough time has elapsed for it to have happened exactly as you said (he left the island with Walt about 30 days prior to last night’s episode). But I agree that Ben must have some sort of leverage against Michael. As annoying a character as Michael is, I still am looking forward to his FB episode that shows what happened over the last 30 days.
Comment 246, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Lynne wrote:
TOTALLY!! I’m all paranoid now. First I was all “DHARMA/HANSO!!!!” When the guy bumped in to Jin. Then when she was having the baby.. I’m like “OH NO THEY DRUGGED HER AND ARE TAKING THE BABY!!!!!” lol!!! Glad to know I’m not the only one that’s totally paranoid!
Comment 247, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Miraks wrote:
Ooooh… I LIKE this!
Comment 248, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
OK the only real question that I need answered is when is Juliet going to eat it. I mean, come on people, JULIET IS NO GOOD!! And if this Jater has to stomach another Jacket moment I think I will hurl.
Comment 249, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Sorry, just have to ask this. Was there any significance to Sun’s normal OBGYN being at a conference (or whereever he was)? If not, why would they throw that in there and not just have the regular doctor deliver the baby?
I know I am probably over analyzing to the nth degree but lately it seems like NOTHING is put in the show without some meaning, hidden or otherwise.
Also, Sun did NOT want her wedding ring to come off. I think you people are onto something here thinking Jin may still be alive. She was drugged and not thinking 100% and may have slipped back, as someone else has pointed out.
One more thing… LOVE THIS BLOG!!!
Comment 250, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
How would that conversation go?
- Yes officer, I need you to go rescue my friends that are stranded on that island over there.
- Okay… umm, which island is that you say?
- Why, that one right over there. uh… uh… HEY where’d the island go?
- Mister… Johnson is it? Sir… have you been drinking this evening?…
Comment 251, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Wow Paul… you seem so certain that Juliet is bad. I wish I could finally pick a side one way or another. Just when I think she is bad (and am convinced of it) something happens and I feel sorry for her and think she is good.
I do think she has an extreme amount of info on the happenings on the island, and possibly the boat (ship, sorry)but she has a true and sincere desire to get off the island ASAP. She has been lied to by Ben many times. Also, wouldn’t you be acting a little desperate too if Ben came on to you and said you were HIS??? I might be joining Regina with a nice thick silver necklace if he said that to me!
Comment 252, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Okay.. just throwing this out there to see where it goes…
We know the O6
Jack
Kate
Hurley
Sayid
Aaron
Sun
Okay… at the current time (island time) Jack, wants to leave the island. Kate, wants to leave the island. Sayid, what’s to the leave the island. Aaron…well I’m sure he does too. Sun, wants to leave the island. So.. what about Hurley? He’s already said that he’s perfectly happy on the island. He’s not hurting anyone with his ‘curse’…he went w/ Locke….so what do we think is the reasoning behind him leaving the island when he is so dead set against it right now?
Comment 253, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Ok, where did 300+ bodies come from that Ben is responsible for?!
Could he have utilized the “Orchid” technology where duplicates of rabbits (and maybe people) can appear. Am i way off on this.
Comment 254, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Fara-dayo wrote:
Maybe there was a purge we don’t know about?? We know of purge one.. thought they were saved from purge two.. maybe there was another one and thats where the bodies came from.
Okay I don’t really believe that.. but its a starting point.
Comment 255, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Oh and someone said that Jin’s headstone had Sun’s birthdate on it (so she could later be buried at his side).
I’m having real problems believing that she is only a year older than me. So either thats realllllly bad estimated character age vs. actress age or whoever interpeted that is wrong.
She seems to be way over 28
Comment 256, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Toeknee wrote:
Not sure I agree with Sun trying to get back to Jin if he were alive. There’s a lot about the circumstances… she must never try to find the island again, or her baby would be taken from her or killed.
With Michael, I’m not sure if enough time has elapsed for it to have happened exactly as you said (he left the island with Walt about 30 days prior to last night’s episode).
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I hope by referring to Jin’s FB as useless and filler you are doing it bcuz it apparently did not add anything to the story or answer any questions. I disagree in that (I am probably in the minority) I thought it was good to have the FB purely for the entertainment value of the current storyline, to keep us on our toes. So in that vein it has redeeming qualities.
The Nicki Paolo episode, to me was more of a filler episode. I guess I’m just nit picking with you.
Far as Sun & Jin, I just think that as much as she loves(d) Jin, I can’t see her being so matter of fact about going to a fake grave with a fellow O6er. Especially since she’s not blind to the power of her father, and therefore has the means to make stuff happen.
Wouldn’t they at a minimum say to each other in their private moment, “I wonder how he’s and our folks are doing back on the island?” Or, “it sucks that we had to leave them behind.” I mean I realize that they have a story they are living by, and the writer’s have to leave some mystery, but I dunno, it just seems like Jin’s death is the bombshell is dropped.
To have Losties choose to stay behind, of their own free will, and have O6ers not be concerned because it’s their choice is one thing.
Leaving Losties behind when it is not their choice to stay, and not really thinking about them is another thing. I am not sure why Jin would choose to stay behind, other than a blank “stay here or she dies.” It is her husband, and their child is quietly a miracle, in that they had been trying all that time to have one, and didn’t think it was possible. Now just go live your life and don’t think about Jin…that’s tough to swallow.
How much time would need to elapse to take an assumed identity? I would think Ben would have had all the particulars laid out so that it would be an easy transition to get on that ship.
Comment 257, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Wait, there are 7, not 6….remember Sayid is working for Ben. So its Hurley, Jack, Kate, Aaron, Sayid, Ben and Sun….maybe 8, if in fact Jin is alive and faking his death to protect Sun and the baby from? Sun’s father? If they are known as the Oceanic 6, then we must have some that made it back under the radar of the media.
Comment 258, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Fara-dayo wrote:
IMHO, the 300+ bodies was to let everyone know that a powerful group or person is behind the cover up. Whoever has that kind of power I would assume can get some bodies, or things to look like bodies.
At the same time, maybe u are right.
Comment 259, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Julie wrote:
I agree, I’m 26 and thought she’d be closer to mid 30s.
I’m sure it’s been mentioned before, but what if going to the grave was all a big act? As we know, there are a group of people after them who Sayid is trying to track down. Maybe that’s why Hurley said “good” on anyone else being there.
Comment 260, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Michelle wrote:
There’s the O6, and there’s people who get off the island. Those are two different sets of folks. The other folks who get off could total anywhere from 3-40?? (I highly doubt it though).
Comment 261, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
michelle, its the oceanic 6. Ben wasn’t on the plane, and we don’t know if he’d had the ability to get off the island the whole time anyway.
So, we have Hurley, Jack, Kate, Sayid, Sun…I wouldn’t count Aaron, but he might be the 6th. Won’t know till they give us another one or not though.
Comment 262, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Julie wrote:
TOTALLY!! I’m all paranoid now. First I was all “DHARMA/HANSO!!!!” When the guy bumped in to Jin. Then when she was having the baby.. I’m like “OH NO THEY DRUGGED HER AND ARE TAKING THE BABY!!!!!” lol!!! Glad to know I’m not the only one that’s totally paranoid!
Okay, if we can figure out where Jin worked before the flight we can determine whether or not the Panda delivery was a flashback. I don’t remember it being Paik Automotive, does anyone else? I just remember he was a fisherman and then a hit man for Sun’s father. What is Charles Whitemore’s company? Will he end up being an associate of Sun’s dad? Jin had to lean in and sneak a peak of the baby, like he was imagining a life he’s missed, perhaps?
Comment 263, posted 1 year, 3 months ago - Quote and reply
Some tidbits that I’ve found… because it’s friday and I dont feel like working.
The last year of dragon was from February 2000 to January 2001
The people over at Lostpedia say that after Sun comes home from the hospital and is taking her wedding ring out of the plastic bag the name on the bag is Kwon Sung Heih. This could go in two direction. 1) she’s posing as someone else… possibly as someone who did die on the plane crash or 2) (and I’ll subscribe to this ) that she is seen as a *celebrity* and the hospital used an alias…
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Michelle…
Jin’s story is/was definately a flashback
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manx cat wrote:
okay, that’s right, Ben would not be counted as a survivor of O815 unless he has assumed an identity of one of the deceased which I wouldn’t put past him(or the writers) Where are Ben’s people now? has there been any