Tonight’s episode is to be be Eko-centric, by the sounds of it.

For french people, I found a blog where everything is in french with pictures…

guillaumedhy.zevillage.org

See you.

I like this blog and I’m French too : why do we invade Americans on their websites … ?! Yeah probably the last episode will last two hours but this is just like season one : you probably watched it on French TV that’s why you didn’t notice there were 25 episodes instead on 24 like it should have been.

Take care not to connect tonight because from midnight (Paris time), people here will know everything about next episode, broadcasted on wednesday, whereas we will have to wait for three days before seing it.

cheers.

hey dudes i know how sad
rip++++
a.c+
libby+
shannon+
boon+
treefrog+
im cant wait for ? tonight i wonder how badly sawyer will have it for snogging ana and yes i m brittish!!!!

i wonder if michael will see walt by the end of the season2? also why did sawyer kill that poor treefrog!!!
from britishfreak

…and I read somewhere that it was the pilot reincarnated too. That frog might have been the survivors’ only way off the island.

*sniff, sniff* Tragic!

RE: my tivo cut off the last part…

Hurley goes to Libby. She opens her eyes, utters “Michael” and dies. Surprisingly, we don’t see Jack cry ;-)

I’d tell you previews, but I believe that’s verbotten around here.

did anyone else catch the commercial for the Hanso corp between the other legit commercials mid way through tonights episode, they had a website but i can’t remember the correct spelling something like sublyminal.com

I think it was http://www.sublymonal.com/ … but I’m on dial-up so it’s taking forever to load!

DON’T READ IF YOU HAVEN’T SEEN TONIGHT’S EPISODE

RE: my tivo cut off the last part…

Hurley goes to Libby. She opens her eyes, utters “Michael” and dies. Surprisingly, we don’t see Jack cry ;-)

I’d tell you previews, but I believe that’s verbotten around here.

thanks alot!!! okay so they didn’t actually say Michael did this…so it might not happen where he gets in big trouble….

…I am surprised they killer her off…..bc we need to know her story ASAP about her in a mental hospital.

I can’t find the previews part will someone tell me about the preview for next week.

did anyone else catch the commercial for the Hanso corp between the other legit commercials mid way through tonights episode, they had a website but i can’t remember the correct spelling something like sublyminal.com

site was: www.sublymonal.com

It is mentioned on the NEWS page of this site… shows rotating flashing boxes… you have to click each one a zillion times until it turns solid, then eventually you will go to a page that tells you the code is Heir Apparent.

www.syblymonal.com

www.sublymonal.com

You can start with anyone…but before you can move to the next one you have to click each one a certain number of times.

First one is 4…next is 8…15, 16, 23, 42, of course.

Their servers are getting SLAMMED right now, so everything is slow and some things aren’t even loading. After getting through the boxes, you get to a screen that shows a box that flashes: “code: Heir Apparent”.
Clicking down below takes you to the bios page at hansofoundation.org and you can use that Heir Apparent code on one of the profiles… that’s as far as I got before their site stopped working for me.

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RE: my tivo cut off the last part…

Hurley goes to Libby. She opens her eyes, utters “Michael” and dies. Surprisingly, we don’t see Jack cry ;-)

I’d tell you previews, but I believe that’s verbotten around here.

I hate to be a pain…but if anyone can give any more details about the last minute, it would be great (TiVo cut off too). The last thing I saw was Hurley saying, “Can I talk to her?” and Jack shooting in the heroin? Are we sure she’s dead, or might she have just been knocked out by the drugs? What did Hurley say to her? What was the look Michael gave, referred to above?

And, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with discussing the previews. I mean, that’s what this site is for, right? They’re already been on TV, so it’s not a spoiler…so, please share! :-)

Jack closed her vacant, staring eyes. Kate cried, Sawyer held onto her. Final shot was Michael by himself in “Henry’s old room” looking a might bit menacing (Thud…LOST)

Hurley: Hey. It’s Hurely….Hugo. I’m sorry I forgot the blankets (Cries). I’m sorry I forgot the blankets.

Libby: (Eyes open - Gurgles) Michael (Final death throws)

… (Thud…LOST)

… and then fans watching in the Eastern and Central time zones instantly cursed the screen, gobbled up the previews for next and rushed online to research time machines in the hopes of getting to next Wednesday in a slightly faster manner! :)

For those looking for webmaze details and hints, look down two articles to this one instead:

lostblog.net/lost/tv/show/alva...

I saw that commercial…. i can’t figure it out… i’ve type sublyminal 100 different ways.. anyone tivo the commercials??

Yes… it www.sublymonal.com. I can’t figure out what it means.

Peace,
Chris

we were right about the hatch just being an experiment

I don’t think we’ve learned that the hatch/button is just an experiment. The Others are deceivers. Not-Henry claimed that the hatch was a joke, but he’s quite deceptive, so we can’t take his word for it. The Pearl orientation video also implied that the button is not what Locke believed it to be - but did we ever really think that pushing the button was ’saving the world’ (Desmond)? Nope. I think the true purpose of the button remains to be seen…

I mean yes, they found the new hatch. And yes, we found out that they are (were?) being watched from the Pearl. There were some interesting dream sequences. Ana and Libby are officially dead.

Overall I am just… not impressed. I like what they tried to do with this episode, but they didn’t win me over with this one. At this point of the season I expect everything to be kind of WOW and this just wasn’t to me.

Although, I did particularly like the sequence with Hurley and Michael… Hurley talks about how they were going to go on their first date, and Michael honestly looks upset/sorry about what he is done… this show of remorse, to me, says that he is acting against his will and doing something he thinks will protect Walt. He is, obviously, not to be trusted, but I’m really interested to know what his motive is.

And I’m already missing Not Henry and the element he brought into the hatch… I really hope we haven’t seen the last of him.

Who knows, maybe I’ll change my mind about this one after I watch it again, I usually like the episdoes more the second time around.

-Libby

I was kind of disappointed with this ep, honestly.

I mean yes, they found the new hatch. And yes, we found out that they are (were?) being watched from the Pearl. There were some interesting dream sequences. Ana and Libby are officially dead.

Overall I am just… not impressed. I like what they tried to do with this episode, but they didn’t win me over with this one. At this point of the season I expect everything to be kind of WOW and this just wasn’t to me.

And I’m already missing Not Henry and the element he brought into the hatch… I really hope we haven’t seen the last of him.

Who knows, maybe I’ll change my mind about this one after I watch it again, I usually like the episdoes more the second time around.

-Libby

Libby, I must say I felt similiar. But we must keep in mind that the previous epi was so big on the WOW factor that it would be very hard for them to live up to that every week. If every epi was a WOW we’d be laying on the floor having a conversation with our own brain, which was lying there next to us. HA. The season closer is coming soon. If they wow’d us last week, imagine what the closer will be like.

I am also missing Henry already.By far the most interesting character (and actor) on the show.

As for thoughts, I think the significance to the epi was that the Pearl was abandoned and appeared to be for some time. This took me back to the med hatch, when the girls returned and found it also abandoned. This has led me to believe that either Claire’s memory flashback can’t be trusted or that her flashback was from a much earlier time, and not a flashback to when she was kidnapped on the island. I am having trouble reconciling that with Alex saving her and Claire scratching Danielle, but the med hatch, like the Pearl, seemed like it had been abandoned for years, not just a few weeks.

This leads me to think that the fake beard and clothes were also old. Claire saw a younger Zeke, sans beard, when he was a Dharma worker. Now he is the bearded Zeke (ie a real beard), b/c the experiment has long ended and he and his people have had to turn to the island to survive. The Swan stills gets food drops b/c it is still “operating” but the rest of the hatches don’t. This could play into an alternate timelines theory that some have suggested, but I don’t know how.

SmileyMe: I don’t know what questions they answered, but they certainly opened up more: 1. why were the hatches abandoned? 2. where did Locke’s map end up when he put it in the shoot? 3. are the ferries still around? 4. why two different names for the doctor? 5. will they find Henry? 6. and where’s Desmond? obviously not at the “?”

I was somewhat disappointed by what the “?” turned out to be. Kind of a let down after all the hype and excitement generated by the map discovery. All that work by the mapmaker summed up by the enigmatic “?” in the middle and it turns out: they’re watching us. Kind of blah.

My favorite part (the part when I went “hey, something’s wrong”) was in the dream sequence when Eko was following his brother up the cliff. Anyone elso notice he was limping as he was walking? Of course, it only took a few minutes for us to find out why.

Oh and Libby, uh sorry you like ah died and stuff … dude. (ok that was crass. Hurley’s pain was one of the most touching parts of the episode. Please forgive me, I’m a good person.)

Again we see what looks like an abandoned hatch. Are the Losties going in and out of some time warp? (And Michael does look older.) The monitors sure would explain how the Others seem to know what is going on with everyone. There were 9 screens and there are 6 hatches so perhaps there observation points everywhere outside on the island. And If the Others are watching what is going on from the past that is really creepy!

I loved the differences between Locke and Eko (both “men of faith”). John was more cynical this time around although he did get some of the old excitement back while they were opening the hatch. And Eko seems to be in a state of wonder. Me too! Cannot wait for next week!

In the film, the narrator introduces himself as Dr. Mark Wickman (not Whitman). This leads me to believe that Candle and Wickman are both aliases, and we do not know the true identity of this person.

Another interesting connection is this: Wickman (wick being the part of a candle that is lit), Candle, and Chandler are all similar names. Chandler means “candle maker” in Middle English. Whose last name is Chandler, you ask? Why, Cindy, of course. Cindy, the missing F.A.

Here’s TheBigCat’s theory thread for more on this: losttv-forum.com/forum/showthr...

Also, who noticed that “Dr. Wickman” has the use of both arms… Dr. Candle supposedly had one prosthetic arm.

Keep the comments coming, everyone!

EDIT: Job, after some research, I agree and am changing the name to Wickman (wrote my reasons for why in the caption). Thank you, and the connection to “Chandler” is definitely interesting.

BTW, I was not impressed by “Two for the Road”.. just thought it was too gimmicky (2 major characters shot and eventually died, 1 major character turned evil), and the “bodyguard” angle was just hard to swallow. I personally liked this episode a lot better, though my favorite thus far is still “Lockdown”.

1. Does “Sublymonal” sound like a drug name to anyone else. One geared towards controling behavior perhaps? Who knows what Desmond et al. have been injecting into their arms…

2. Perhaps pressing the button in the Swan was originally a Skinner-type experiment, yes. But perhaps it became more important after “the incident” and after the computer problems. Also, if it’s connected to food and supply drops, that pretty important too.

3. Did anyone notice that the footage of Ana that was shown in the preview after Two for the Road was missing. The footage showed her prone, on her back and I believe someone was folding her arms across her chest. Am I imagining this?

Later all…keep ruminating…

Dave

Near the end, as Eckko is telling Locke about his brother, what I thought of was a priest/penitent relationship. Locke, being the first to identify with the “faith” aspects of the Island, is really taking Eckko’s confession. So we have had Fake Henry trying to convince Locke the whole thing is a joke, and we have some dead people trying to pull him back to the faith, as it were. So perhaps the Others (or at least Henry’s group) are operating in opposition to whatever the more spiritual properties of the Island are.

Guys, I only have time for a quick post, but there are three points that nobody has raised yet:

1. Does “Sublymonal” sound like a drug name to anyone else. One geared towards controling behavior perhaps? Who knows what Desmond et al. have been injecting into their arms…

2. Perhaps pressing the button in the Swan was originally a Skinner-type experiment, yes. But perhaps it became more important after “the incident” and after the computer problems. Also, if it’s connected to food and supply drops, that pretty important too.

3. Did anyone notice that the footage of Ana that was shown in the preview after Two for the Road was missing. The footage showed her prone, on her back and I believe someone was folding her arms across her chest. Am I imagining this?

Later all…keep ruminating…

Dave

Forgive me if I am wrong, but the Swan orientation film said the “incident” led to the entering of the numbers at the Swan. There was a time when whatever happened or was occuring at the Swan did not involve the entering of the numbers. Could the Pearl have been built after the other hatches, post-”incident”? Both copyrights on the films are 1980. So if the Swan film was made in 1980 and they now had to enter the number, it suggests the Pearl film was also redone. The Pearl hatch could have served a different purpose pre-incident. Someone had to start watching everybody, although they only had to do it for 3 weeks! What kind of tour of duty is that? Perhaps, if the Pearl observers are watching ALL the hatches, if they watched too long they would start to put 2 and 2 together?

Perhaps the “Others” occupied the other hatches and have simply tired of the experiment and gone off to live/survive on their own. As long as Desmond pushed the button, and now the Oceanic Flight crash survivors push the button, the “experiment” continues, the Swan hatch activities continue to be recorded and supplies keep coming to the island from the “Foundation” keeping everyone alive.

As you will recall from the Pearl Orientation film, all activities are being recorded, and because the Swan hatch has had someone continuously pushing the button, the video cameras have kept recording. SO, somewhere there is a video recording of Michael shooting Ana, Libby and himself and telling “not Henry” to escape.

As soon as Locke and Eko report back about the Pearl hatch they found and about all the hatch activities being recorded on video tape, the survivors will realize that somewhere they can find the tape of what happened when “not Henry” escaped. That somewhere may be the “barracks” mentioned in the Orientation Film and the “barracks” is the place where the “Others” have been living since they gave up on the experiment.

Whether or not Michael will lead them to the “Others” as a trap or to fight for Walt’s return remains to be seen.

My theory on the button after watching the “?” episode is that I believe entering the code and pushing the “Execute” button keeps the video recorder in each of the hatches activated. It also tells the “Foundation” conducting the “experiment” that someone was still occupying the Swan hatch. All the other hatches have been found by the survivors and looked abandoned for some time except the Swan hatch because Desmond kept pushing the button.

Perhaps the “Others” occupied the other hatches and have simply tired of the experiment and gone off to live/survive on their own. As long as Desmond pushed the button, and now the Oceanic Flight crash survivors push the button, the “experiment” continues, the Swan hatch activities continue to be recorded and supplies keep coming to the island from the “Foundation” keeping everyone alive.

As you will recall from the Pearl Orientation film, all activities are being recorded, and because the Swan hatch has had someone continuously pushing the button, the video cameras have kept recording. SO, somewhere there is a video recording of Michael shooting Ana, Libby and himself and telling “not Henry” to escape.

As soon as Locke and Eko report back about the Pearl hatch they found and about all the hatch activities being recorded on video tape, the survivors will realize that somewhere they can find the tape of what happened when “not Henry” escaped. That somewhere may be the “barracks” mentioned in the Orientation Film and the “barracks” is the place where the “Others” have been living since they gave up on the experiment.

Whether or not Michael will lead them to the “Others” as a trap or to fight for Walt’s return remains to be seen.

Some good ideas there. Did I miss something that said the cameras were recording though? I took them as live feeds. Plus if they are being recorded, there is no point in having observers record everything they saw b/c, well, it’s being recorded.

As for Locke and Eko telling anybody anything, I don’t know that that will happen. There is no precedence for that. And even if they did tell, it would take the Losties months to even think about going back and checking the recordings. Not to mention, Locke and Jack would have to fight about it for at least 3 episodes.

Oh, at least next time Jack can cry on Sawyer’s shoulder.

I wonder if those who have been drugged by food/injections are the ones getting the subliminal messages in dreams/visions?

I think the Psychic is a fake but his daughter really can see into the future. via some Darhma vitamins?

Where oh were did desmond go? and how is he after not taking any more shots?

Was the Boat the others used mentioned in the video?

Last but not least could the doctors in the videos be CLONES? or the same man who has come back after traveling through time?

Donyab wrote:

My theory on the button after watching the “?” episode is that I believe entering the code and pushing the “Execute” button keeps the video recorder in each of the hatches activated. It also tells the “Foundation” conducting the “experiment” that someone was still occupying the Swan hatch. All the other hatches have been found by the survivors and looked abandoned for some time except the Swan hatch because Desmond kept pushing the button.

Perhaps the “Others” occupied the other hatches and have simply tired of the experiment and gone off to live/survive on their own. As long as Desmond pushed the button, and now the Oceanic Flight crash survivors push the button, the “experiment” continues, the Swan hatch activities continue to be recorded and supplies keep coming to the island from the “Foundation” keeping everyone alive.

As you will recall from the Pearl Orientation film, all activities are being recorded, and because the Swan hatch has had someone continuously pushing the button, the video cameras have kept recording. SO, somewhere there is a video recording of Michael shooting Ana, Libby and himself and telling “not Henry” to escape.

As soon as Locke and Eko report back about the Pearl hatch they found and about all the hatch activities being recorded on video tape, the survivors will realize that somewhere they can find the tape of what happened when “not Henry” escaped. That somewhere may be the “barracks” mentioned in the Orientation Film and the “barracks” is the place where the “Others” have been living since they gave up on the experiment.

Whether or not Michael will lead them to the “Others” as a trap or to fight for Walt’s return remains to be seen.

Some good ideas there. Did I miss something that said the cameras were recording though? I took them as live feeds. Plus if they are being recorded, there is no point in having observers record everything they saw b/c, well, it’s being recorded.

As for Locke and Eko telling anybody anything, I don’t know that that will happen. There is no precedence for that. And even if they did tell, it would take the Losties months to even think about going back and checking the recordings. Not to mention, Locke and Jack would have to fight about it for at least 3 episodes.

Oh, at least next time Jack can cry on Sawyer’s shoulder.

Dr. Wickman said in the Orientation Film that everything was being recorded. My guess would be that they were told to write down what they saw so that their comments could be compared to see how each interpreted the events they were viewing. All part of the big “experiment” on human behavior.

Locke seems to be getting back his “faith” so maybe he’ll be more willing to share their discovery with the other Losties rather than jockeying for power with Jack. Although you raise a good point about Eko and Locke keeping it to themselves, they all have had their secret discoveries in the past that they didn’t share until they HAD no other choice.

How convenient for the “Others” though; now they’ve got the Losties killing eachother rather than having to do it themselves.

Did anyone notice that when Eko was checking in at the airport he was told he was on Flight 815 at gate 23?? Those numbers sound awfully familiar 8, 15, 23…

um, well thats the plane and number EVERYONE goes to right…?

does anyone think that the pearl is really the question mark”?”. on the blast door map, it showed the pearl as one of the stations. not the big queestion mark

I thought the conversation between Locke and Eko in the Pearl was a real eye-opener when it came to Locke’s opinion of himself. He is constantly back and forth and now appears to be shrugging off the idea that he is anything important.

V, the pearl is listed on the map, with a question mark behind it, as if to indicate the mapmaker was guessing that the pearl would be located in that area. The corresponding hatch is also drawn with broken lines and not solid lines like the swan and the flame.

Which brings us to the “?” in the middle. Does anyone else feel as dumb as I do? I always interpreted the big ? in the circle as the mapmaker saying “what is this or what is here?” When actually, it was just a big question mark on the ground.

And oh yeah, anyone notice that the numbers on the log that Locke prints out don’t seem to be THE numbers?

I caught that, Jimmy. It was a weird sequence, too. I didn’t have a chance to really study it. I’m going to go back through the Pearl scene and do some pausing.

Jimmy Atcha wrote:

And oh yeah, anyone notice that the numbers on the log that Locke prints out don’t seem to be THE numbers?

I caught that, Jimmy. It was a weird sequence, too. I didn’t have a chance to really study it. I’m going to go back through the Pearl scene and do some pausing.

There are some good posts on the abc plot boards about the numbers sequence, if you can get on there that is. Just don’t lead anyone back here!! We must keep Andreas blog clean, clutter free, and “good”.

Hmm Donyab. I usually rewatch on Thursday. I’ll pay real close attention to the Pearl video.

I thought the conversation between Locke and Eko in the Pearl was a real eye-opener when it came to Locke’s opinion of himself. He is constantly back and forth and now appears to be shrugging off the idea that he is anything important.

V, the pearl is listed on the map, with a question mark behind it, as if to indicate the mapmaker was guessing that the pearl would be located in that area. The corresponding hatch is also drawn with broken lines and not solid lines like the swan and the flame.

Which brings us to the “?” in the middle. Does anyone else feel as dumb as I do? I always interpreted the big ? in the circle as the mapmaker saying “what is this or what is here?” When actually, it was just a big question mark on the ground.

I’ll quote myself b/c I’m just adding things I forgot the first time.

Note there is no drug plane on the hatch map. That has always been curious to me and more so since whoever made the map should have realized that there was a crashed plane laying very near the “?”. That could mean that that part of the map was made long before the drug plane crashed.

I also don’t buy Eko’s reasoning that the “?” was a landing site for the plane. A balloon maybe, or a parachute drop. But a plane needs a runway, not a little clearing in the trees.

did anyone else catch the commercial for the Hanso corp between the other legit commercials mid way through tonights episode, they had a website but i can’t remember the correct spelling something like sublyminal.com

its sublymonal.com

The orientation films strike me as nothing more than playing a role. Setting a stage. Much like the MC at a Murder Mystery dinner event, or something like that. “You are here to do this thing, and you MUST NEVER let this other thing happen.” Maybe “the incident” is nothing more than the “shared event” (a la The Island with the installation of clones being raised). The film/videos must look genuine to be believable and cause the subjects to continue as the experiment requires.

I see some people talking about time travel… man, if that’s the case, I’m done. They might as well have Robert Zemeckis guest-direct an episode and have cameos by Michael J. Fox and Christopher Lloyd. They could call Sawyer “butt-head” and stuff.

I’m genuinely afraid that the show is going to jump over that shark with the Dharma tattoo we saw last season. I’m ok with getting answers, but I really prefer the questions.

Hangin’ in there…

Oh well.

Erica wrote:

Did anyone notice that when Eko was checking in at the airport he was told he was on Flight 815 at gate 23?? Those numbers sound awfully familiar 8, 15, 23…

um, well thats the plane and number EVERYONE goes to right…?

Sorry to be soooo stupid…I just hadn’t heard the gate number referenced before.

Along with Candle’s name being changed at some point, and the Others’ repeatedly stated fear of “him” (Hanso? too easy), it all looks like someone has taken over the experiment and everyone involved in the Dharma initiative, and is using it and them for his own purposes.

On a side note, I think the “subLYMONal” thing is a waste of time. “Obey” probably refers to “obey your thirst”, the Sprite motto. “Heir apparent” often refers to Lebron James, total badass/Sprite salesman.

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Maybe these numbers are from a previous iteration of the experiment?

The numbers on the log Locke printed out are NOT “the” numbers. Take a look (screen grab from the show via abc.com):

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Maybe these numbers are from a previous iteration of the experiment?

If you look at the numbers on thelog, they’re going up.

ex: 41602081:05 accepted 41602082:53 accepted

but it’s not a regular progression. Could it be some kind of time or date stamp of the numbers being successfully entered into the Swan computer?

Did it seem like the wallpaper in the Pearl was the same as the wallpaper in the coroner’s office?

ok. on the sublymonal website, click the obey, then click each screen the number of times in the code (4,8,15,16,23,42) the screens turn lime when you do it. Then it gives you the code “heir apparent”. click that, and it brings you to the bios page on hanso. click on the date beneath the pic of alvar, oct 28th 2001, and it says “Notice the grainy picture?” and then, “Could this be anyone else?”, then it brings you to a map of europe. click on all the dates the map has and then persephone writes you saying that the last time alvar was seen was in 2002. Then there is a voice and big bold print saying “Where is alvar hanso” “Does he exist” and “Who is running this thing?” Then it brings you back to the bios page. click on the bio of the doctor. then enter the “heir apparent” password in the box. It brings you to a creepy room with a wheelchair and the creepiest of girls. she is in a hospital gown. she turns around and faces you (she looks like the dead/alive girl from last nights episode!) and then she shows you a document. The document if a Cal Tech one, the school the Dr. went to (it says in his bio) but when you click on it, hand writing say, “Cal tech has no record of this guy. Does he even have a degree? Why does he call himself a doctor? of what? Who is this clown?” and then it brings you back to the bio page…that’s where it ended for me? Anyone get anything different or further?

I dont know what u r talking about when i click on the date below alvar nothing happens

Also I have to agree with the earlier post about the pearl not being the ? Ecko said that Locks map was not in correct proportion or scale, and John knew it was just from memory.

I don’t see a ? on the ground, I just see a circle, again confirming to me that this is not the ?, in addition to the fact that they never said it was.

The psychic is not telling the truth. I think he knew that his daughter really did die but he must keep the truth a secret for some reason. He claims to be a fraud… kinda odd considering he didn’t have to… and then puting that together with Clair’s experience with him, which must have been around the same time. Either that or after his daughter came back to life, she told him about Clair, or somehow passed her power on.

what if the people in the hatches know a fair bit about their previous lives as well? as in, the castaways lives prior to the island. for instance, des was in a hatch (relating to jack), that creepy painting (very similar to thomas, relating to claire), and i agree about the wallpaper in the pearl. if the others know about the people’s history, it makes sense that they can judge them as either “good” or “bad”.

maybe the real question mark is the hole that mr smokey tried to drag locke into in the first season

“ex: 41602081:05 accepted 41602082:53 accepted”
take out the last 3 digits
1:05 - 2:53 = 108 minutes (time required to press the button)
the other digits get increased every 10 hours so 4160208 will be 4160209 after 10 hours , so this will give you the number of times that the button has been pressed and the numbers (4,8,15) entered ,and will also give you the amount of time spent.
At the time the printed papper is shown the count is up to 48 years

hope i helped with my post :)

Secondly, for being so smart, these characters are unbelievably dumb. If I were in a hatch in which I could see everything happening somewhere else, and was told it was all being recorded, you bet I would rewind the tape just a bit to see what actually happened when 2 of my friends were shot to death……
Mark